Quite frankly, you missed the whole point of my post. I didnt realize there were 34 channels in atmos but then again I was talking about AVRs. Since when do AVRs hold more than the skelteon? Turn on your critical thinking buddy and stop shooting from the hip!!!\n\nI will ignore the rest of your troll response because I see your brain was disengaged when you wrote your response trying to be pithy and witty but you failed miserably. Everyone here knows how I feel about the cable industry. Im not sure how you missed it. I guess you read with your eyes closed.\n\n\nYou're the one that thought you would decide for everyone else in the world they don't deserve Atmos unless they can afford the "top 3" models. Such a ridiculous assertion from someone that clearly has no idea how Atmos works (it doesn't use "channels" but rather audio objects that are rendered to up to 34.1 speakers) deserves some old fashion sarcasm, IMO. And sorry, but I don't memorize what your or anyone else's cable preferences are. My account is slow loading\/bugged as it is so I don't have time to read, let alone memorize everyone's preferences. \n\nAs for AVRs, some models are now offering up to 15.2 channels of Atmos through the new generation of DSP chips (typically for a 9.1.6 configuration of 9 speakers at ear level and 6 overhead plus at last one subwoofer). You need 11.1 channels to make a full "rectangle" of coverage (7.1.4). All the additional speakers are at intervals (typically around 50% give or take) in-between those pairs. That uses the regular 7.1 configuration plus two pairs of overhead speakers mounted at either +\/-30-45 degrees (front and rear height, typically mounted above the screen or just in front of it on the ceiling and the same in the rear relative position) or +\/- 45-55 degree (top front and top rear typically mounted ~1\/4 the way into the room from the front or rear walls in or on the ceiling). There's also "Atmos enabled' (aka 'bouncy' speakers that try to bounce the overhead effects off the ceiling to sound like they're up there as they actually sit on top of the mains or somewhere similar (works best if hidden behind a TV so direct sound can't make it to your ears). I wouldn't recommend bouncy speakers. \n\n\nIf someone wants to hear Atmos go through its paces with something along the lines of that "Unfold" demo from Dolby, try Booka Shade's "Dear Future Self" Atmos music album on Pure Audio Blu-Ray. Their "Galvany Street Atmos Edition" Blu-Ray is also a great demo. It places sounds almost everywhere imaginable in the room front to back, side to side and across the ceiling and in-between.