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Ponzio

Ponzio

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Watched Lou Dobbs last night for grins. He had some postal contractors (not regular postal workers?) as well as a few polling people on claiming fraud fraud fraud. He was all over it. No matter that Republicans picked up seats in the House and will probably hold the Senate the election was rigged. I think he even mentioned the "Deep State".
It would be funny; until you realize that a lot of folks, like some of your friends & family, take these nighttime Faux News clowns seriously, and insist on ‘debating’ the facts.

I’ve just gotten into the habit of putting my palm out and refuse to play along with them anymore, before they get a head of steam. It’s like debating a 5 year old about the existence of Santa Claus and just as enlightening.

The damage they’ve done to this country is incalculable.
 
Kvn_Walker

Kvn_Walker

Audioholic General
Right now, republicans are stress testing the system, looking for vulnerabilities in the armor. Trump has no chance of reversing this election, mainly because he is a moron and has no class or tact. Those who support him publicly do so only because they would face repercussions otherwise.

However, notes are being taken. When a situation like this arises again, don't be surprised if a Republican with an actual functioning brain is able to pull off an election reversal. There are some serious flaws in our electoral process which have always existed but never before been exposed.
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Field Marshall
It would be funny; until you realize that a lot of folks, like some of your friends & family, take these nighttime Faux News clowns seriously, and insist on ‘debating’ the facts.

I’ve just gotten into the habit of putting my palm out and refuse to play along with them anymore, before they get a head of steam. It’s like debating a 5 year old about the existence of Santa Claus and just as enlightening.

The damage they’ve done to this country is incalculable.
I expect more from an adult than a 5 year old child.
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Field Marshall
Right now, republicans are stress testing the system, looking for vulnerabilities in the armor. Trump has no chance of reversing this election, mainly because he is a moron and has no class or tact. Those who support him publicly do so only because they would face repercussions otherwise.

However, notes are being taken. When a situation like this arises again, don't be surprised if a Republican with an actual functioning brain is able to pull off an election reversal. There are some serious flaws in our electoral process which have always existed but never before been exposed.
On the state and local level the Republicans are mostly standing tall showing integrity, knowing doing so will cost them and their family. At the national level the G.O.P. is a disgrace showing their far right authoritarian inclination after four years of Trump. Funny how the "law and order" and "I fear the Democratic far left" posters in this forum (sorry, "publication" :rolleyes: ) are silent about what G.O.P. is doing.
 
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

Audioholic Spartan
Nah, they'll just do what politicians do and flip their view and pretend they've always thought that way. Somehow, people will buy it.
This. Is. Priceless.

"Last summer, the Republican Governor of Arizona, Doug Ducey, told reporters that he had a new ringtone on his phone. Whenever the president or vice president called, he said, his phone played “Hail to the Chief.”

Back in July, he explained:

"I've got a relationship with the president and when there's a need in Arizona, I talk to him directly," Ducey said during a July 9 press conference. "We've had so much outreach personally from both the president and the vice president that I had to change the ringtone on my phone. And it rings 'Hail to the Chief,' because I didn't want to miss another phone call directly from the White House to help the state of Arizona."
On Monday, Governor Ducey held a short ceremony to certify Joe Biden’s defeat of Donald Trump in Arizona, awarding the state’s 11 electoral votes to the former vice president. He also certified the election of Democrat Mark Kelly to the U.S. Senate.

“I will be signing official documentation today that will be hand delivered to the secretary of the U.S. Senate so Arizona’s newest senator can be sworn into office as swiftly as possible,” Ducey said Monday.
And then, as the governor signed his name to the official results, his cell phone rang to life.
It was playing “Hail to the Chief.”

As local reporters watched, Ducey pulled his phone out from his pocket,— and without answering — set it down and continued signing."
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Without some drumphy fuckery the score seems to have settled at 306 to 232.
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Field Marshall
Let me say this: My opinion of the G.O.P. has changed, to put it mildly, over the last 4 years, tempered by Republicans (mostly) at local and state level in their handling and response of the 2020 election.


"
Just 25 congressional Republicans acknowledge Joe Biden’s win over President Trump a month after the former vice president’s clear victory of more than 7 million votes nationally and a convincing electoral-vote margin that exactly matched Trump’s 2016 tally.

Two Republicans consider Trump the winner despite all evidence showing otherwise. And another 222 GOP members of the House and Senate — nearly 90 percent of all Republicans serving in Congress — will simply not say who won the election.
Those are the findings of a Washington Post survey of all 249 Republicans in the House and Senate that began the morning after Trump posted a 46-minute video Wednesday evening in which he wrongly claimed he had defeated Biden and leveled wild and unsubstantiated allegations of “corrupt forces” who stole the outcome from the sitting president.

A team of 25 Post reporters contacted aides for every Republican by email and phone asking three basic questions — who won the presidential contest, do you support or oppose Trump’s continuing efforts to claim victory and if Biden wins a majority in the electoral college, will you accept him as the legitimately elected president — and also researched public statements made by the GOP lawmakers in recent weeks to determine their stance on Biden’s win.
See how Republican lawmakers responded to The Post’s questions

The results demonstrate the fear that most Republicans have of the outgoing president and his grip on the party, despite his new status as just the third incumbent to lose reelection in the last 80 years. More than 70 percent of Republican lawmakers did not acknowledge The Post’s questions as of Friday evening.
They are largely hiding from answering questions about the election, neither congratulating Biden nor embracing Trump’s most strident positions and false claims. Just eight Republicans, 3 percent of all GOP lawmakers, voiced support for Trump’s current strategy of claiming victory and asking state legislatures to declare him the victor in states that he lost.
This GOP nonresponse stands in stark contrast to Democrats in 2016. The morning after media outlets called Trump the winner, Hillary Clinton conceded and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N. Y) fielded a call from Trump. Schumer issued a statement shortly thereafter congratulating the president-elect and calling for Americans to “come together.”
Today, most Republicans just want to avoid the Trump question altogether, following the lead of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), whose office pointed to his recent comments about the election and declined to participate in the survey.
Most Republicans greet Trump’s push to overturn the election with a customary response: Silence
On Tuesday, McConnell ducked questions about Trump’s claim of fraud and refused to take any leadership role in acknowledging Biden’s victory.

“The future will take care of itself,” he told reporters.
On Thursday, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) would not even consider how he would fight executive orders in Biden’s first days in office, leaving open the idea that someone else could be sworn in on Jan. 20.
“Let’s wait until [we see] who’s sworn in,” McCarthy said, “and we can discuss that.”
Today’s reactions — or, mostly, non-reactions — mirror how many Republicans handled four years of Trump’s intemperance: A few predictable Trump critics would condemn his actions, such as the decision to use tear gas on peaceful protesters to clear Lafayette Square in June so Trump could walk across the park, but most would try to avoid the subject.
Their complicit silence now comes as Trump continues to mount an unfounded campaign against the democratic outcome of an election, leaving them isolated as other federal, state and local Republican officials have rejected Trump’s false assertions.
Even Kellyanne Conway — Trump’s 2016 campaign manager and longtime adviser, who famously coined the phrase “alternative facts” — went further than most Republican members of Congress. She admitted Friday that it looked like Biden “will prevail” and called for a “peaceful transfer of democracy.”
On Tuesday, Attorney General William P. Barr declared that the Justice Department had not found any evidence of voter fraud that would change the outcome of the election, following the top election cybersecurity official’s declaration that the election had been safe from any hacking.
The president summarily fired that official, Christopher Krebs, and is said to be weighing action against Barr.
The Trump campaign has suffered multiple losses in their post-election legal challenges to overturn the results, with stinging defeats Friday in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada and Wisconsin.
In Arizona and Nevada, judges tossed full-scale challenges to the states’ election results filed by the Republican Party and the campaign, respectively.
Last month, U.S. District Judge Matthew W. Brann dismissed a Trump campaign lawsuit to block the certification of Pennsylvania’s election results, and in a scathing opinion, wrote that the campaign had “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations” in its effort to throw out millions of votes.
“In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state,” Brann wrote.
Judges turn back claims by Trump and his allies in six states as the president’s legal effort founders
Two Michigan Republican legislative leaders, after being summoned to the White House, announced they would not intervene to block Biden’s relatively comfortable win there. In Arizona, Republican Gov. Doug Ducey signed election results Monday certifying Biden’s narrow victory there, saying a bipartisan collection of local officials oversaw a clean election.
In Georgia, Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, both Republicans, certified Biden’s slender victory there and have resisted calls from Trump and his supporters to throw out the results.
One of Raffensperger’s deputies implored the state’s U.S. senators, Republicans David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, to oppose Trump’s efforts, warning of potential violence to civil servants.
Instead, Perdue’s public and private actions are emblematic of how many Republicans feel.
With him and Loeffler facing Jan. 5 runoff elections that will determine the Senate majority, the two have publicly embraced Trump’s baseless claim that the Dominion Voting Systems machines used in Georgia were rigged as part of a global conspiracy, hoping to retain support among the president’s strongest backers. Both also have called for Raffensperger to resign.
Yet, in a video obtained by The Post, Perdue privately acknowledged the reality that Trump lost and that Republicans needed to focus on those Georgia races to save the Senate majority.
“We can at least be a buffer on some of the things that the Biden camp has been talking about,” he told donors on a video conference.
Other highlights from the survey found that:
* 11 of the 52 Senate Republicans acknowledge Biden’s victory;
* of the 14 House Republicans who recognize the true winner, six are retiring from politics at the end of this month and two more represent districts that Biden won convincingly.
Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) went as far as any Republican in embracing Biden. The two worked together on the “Beau Biden Cancer Moonshot” proposal, named for Biden’s son who died of brain cancer in 2015, turning it into a massive 2016 medical research bill.
Within hours of the Nov. 7 declaration of Biden’s victory, Upton vowed to work with the new administration.
“I am raising my hand and committing to work with President-elect Biden and my colleagues on both sides of the aisle,” he said.
Sen. Patrick J. Toomey (R-Pa.) held out until Nov. 21 when a federal judge, ushered to confirmation by the staunch conservative senator, issued a scathing rebuke of Trump’s legal challenges in Pennsylvania and gave a legal seal of approval to Biden’s win there.
“Joe Biden won the 2020 election and will become the 46th President of the United States. I congratulate President-elect Biden,” Toomey said in a statement.
Judges in other states have repeatedly rebuffed the Trump campaign’s legal challenges, and on Friday the effort suffered losses in Michigan, Arizona and Nevada.
Reps. Paul A. Gosar (Ariz.) and Mo Brooks (Ala.) are the only Republicans in Congress who have publicly insisted Trump is the winner. Gosar has spent several weeks embracing the disproved conspiracy theory that the Dominion voting machines used in Arizona, Georgia and some other states manipulated the results and stole the election for Biden. Dominion has called the claims unfounded.
He said he will never accept the Democrat as the legitimately elected president. “No, never. Too much evidence of fraud,” he said.
But Brooks and Gosar are extreme outliers on Capitol Hill, with the overwhelming majority of Republicans content to avoid the question. Many have stated that somehow the Dec. 14 meeting of the electoral college, in all 50 states, will provide a clear winner — perhaps naively expecting Trump to concede that point.
Still, as enough states have certified the results to make Biden the winner, Republicans still won’t publicly commit now to considering the Democrat the legitimately elected president when he wins the majority in the electoral college.
No one has a trickier task than Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), who is chairman of the Senate Rules Committee, which is in charge of all events on Capitol grounds for the Jan. 20 inauguration.
Committee staff have acknowledged that Biden is the winner and begun working with the president-elect’s team to plan the event, with much of the usual pomp and circumstance getting a new look for social distancing during the pandemic.
“We are working with the Biden administration, likely administration, on both the transition and the inauguration,” Blunt said Sunday on CNN, catching himself after he declared Biden the winner.
He paused and tried to explain how he still is awaiting the electoral college decision in a few days.
Is Joe Biden the president-elect?
“Well, the president-elect will be the president-elect when the electors vote for him. There is no official job president-elect,” he said.
Blunt’s office did not answer The Post’s question on whether he would accept Biden as the legitimately elected president if he wins the majority in the electoral college.

"
 
Irvrobinson

Irvrobinson

Audioholic Spartan
Let me say this: My opinion of the G.O.P. has changed, to put it mildly, over the last 4 years, tempered by Republicans (mostly) at local and state level in their handling and response of the 2020 election.


"
Just 25 congressional Republicans acknowledge Joe Biden’s win over President Trump a month after the former vice president’s clear victory of more than 7 million votes nationally and a convincing electoral-vote margin that exactly matched Trump’s 2016 tally.

Two Republicans consider Trump the winner despite all evidence showing otherwise. And another 222 GOP members of the House and Senate — nearly 90 percent of all Republicans serving in Congress — will simply not say who won the election.
Those are the findings of a Washington Post survey of all 249 Republicans in the House and Senate that began the morning after Trump posted a 46-minute video Wednesday evening in which he wrongly claimed he had defeated Biden and leveled wild and unsubstantiated allegations of “corrupt forces” who stole the outcome from the sitting president.

A team of 25 Post reporters contacted aides for every Republican by email and phone asking three basic questions — who won the presidential contest, do you support or oppose Trump’s continuing efforts to claim victory and if Biden wins a majority in the electoral college, will you accept him as the legitimately elected president — and also researched public statements made by the GOP lawmakers in recent weeks to determine their stance on Biden’s win.
See how Republican lawmakers responded to The Post’s questions

The results demonstrate the fear that most Republicans have of the outgoing president and his grip on the party, despite his new status as just the third incumbent to lose reelection in the last 80 years. More than 70 percent of Republican lawmakers did not acknowledge The Post’s questions as of Friday evening.
They are largely hiding from answering questions about the election, neither congratulating Biden nor embracing Trump’s most strident positions and false claims. Just eight Republicans, 3 percent of all GOP lawmakers, voiced support for Trump’s current strategy of claiming victory and asking state legislatures to declare him the victor in states that he lost.
This GOP nonresponse stands in stark contrast to Democrats in 2016. The morning after media outlets called Trump the winner, Hillary Clinton conceded and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N. Y) fielded a call from Trump. Schumer issued a statement shortly thereafter congratulating the president-elect and calling for Americans to “come together.”
Today, most Republicans just want to avoid the Trump question altogether, following the lead of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), whose office pointed to his recent comments about the election and declined to participate in the survey.
Most Republicans greet Trump’s push to overturn the election with a customary response: Silence
On Tuesday, McConnell ducked questions about Trump’s claim of fraud and refused to take any leadership role in acknowledging Biden’s victory.

“The future will take care of itself,” he told reporters.
On Thursday, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) would not even consider how he would fight executive orders in Biden’s first days in office, leaving open the idea that someone else could be sworn in on Jan. 20.
“Let’s wait until [we see] who’s sworn in,” McCarthy said, “and we can discuss that.”
Today’s reactions — or, mostly, non-reactions — mirror how many Republicans handled four years of Trump’s intemperance: A few predictable Trump critics would condemn his actions, such as the decision to use tear gas on peaceful protesters to clear Lafayette Square in June so Trump could walk across the park, but most would try to avoid the subject.
Their complicit silence now comes as Trump continues to mount an unfounded campaign against the democratic outcome of an election, leaving them isolated as other federal, state and local Republican officials have rejected Trump’s false assertions.
Even Kellyanne Conway — Trump’s 2016 campaign manager and longtime adviser, who famously coined the phrase “alternative facts” — went further than most Republican members of Congress. She admitted Friday that it looked like Biden “will prevail” and called for a “peaceful transfer of democracy.”
On Tuesday, Attorney General William P. Barr declared that the Justice Department had not found any evidence of voter fraud that would change the outcome of the election, following the top election cybersecurity official’s declaration that the election had been safe from any hacking.
The president summarily fired that official, Christopher Krebs, and is said to be weighing action against Barr.
The Trump campaign has suffered multiple losses in their post-election legal challenges to overturn the results, with stinging defeats Friday in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada and Wisconsin.
In Arizona and Nevada, judges tossed full-scale challenges to the states’ election results filed by the Republican Party and the campaign, respectively.
Last month, U.S. District Judge Matthew W. Brann dismissed a Trump campaign lawsuit to block the certification of Pennsylvania’s election results, and in a scathing opinion, wrote that the campaign had “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations” in its effort to throw out millions of votes.
“In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state,” Brann wrote.
Judges turn back claims by Trump and his allies in six states as the president’s legal effort founders
Two Michigan Republican legislative leaders, after being summoned to the White House, announced they would not intervene to block Biden’s relatively comfortable win there. In Arizona, Republican Gov. Doug Ducey signed election results Monday certifying Biden’s narrow victory there, saying a bipartisan collection of local officials oversaw a clean election.
In Georgia, Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, both Republicans, certified Biden’s slender victory there and have resisted calls from Trump and his supporters to throw out the results.
One of Raffensperger’s deputies implored the state’s U.S. senators, Republicans David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, to oppose Trump’s efforts, warning of potential violence to civil servants.
Instead, Perdue’s public and private actions are emblematic of how many Republicans feel.
With him and Loeffler facing Jan. 5 runoff elections that will determine the Senate majority, the two have publicly embraced Trump’s baseless claim that the Dominion Voting Systems machines used in Georgia were rigged as part of a global conspiracy, hoping to retain support among the president’s strongest backers. Both also have called for Raffensperger to resign.
Yet, in a video obtained by The Post, Perdue privately acknowledged the reality that Trump lost and that Republicans needed to focus on those Georgia races to save the Senate majority.
“We can at least be a buffer on some of the things that the Biden camp has been talking about,” he told donors on a video conference.
Other highlights from the survey found that:
* 11 of the 52 Senate Republicans acknowledge Biden’s victory;
* of the 14 House Republicans who recognize the true winner, six are retiring from politics at the end of this month and two more represent districts that Biden won convincingly.
Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) went as far as any Republican in embracing Biden. The two worked together on the “Beau Biden Cancer Moonshot” proposal, named for Biden’s son who died of brain cancer in 2015, turning it into a massive 2016 medical research bill.
Within hours of the Nov. 7 declaration of Biden’s victory, Upton vowed to work with the new administration.
“I am raising my hand and committing to work with President-elect Biden and my colleagues on both sides of the aisle,” he said.
Sen. Patrick J. Toomey (R-Pa.) held out until Nov. 21 when a federal judge, ushered to confirmation by the staunch conservative senator, issued a scathing rebuke of Trump’s legal challenges in Pennsylvania and gave a legal seal of approval to Biden’s win there.
“Joe Biden won the 2020 election and will become the 46th President of the United States. I congratulate President-elect Biden,” Toomey said in a statement.
Judges in other states have repeatedly rebuffed the Trump campaign’s legal challenges, and on Friday the effort suffered losses in Michigan, Arizona and Nevada.
Reps. Paul A. Gosar (Ariz.) and Mo Brooks (Ala.) are the only Republicans in Congress who have publicly insisted Trump is the winner. Gosar has spent several weeks embracing the disproved conspiracy theory that the Dominion voting machines used in Arizona, Georgia and some other states manipulated the results and stole the election for Biden. Dominion has called the claims unfounded.
He said he will never accept the Democrat as the legitimately elected president. “No, never. Too much evidence of fraud,” he said.
But Brooks and Gosar are extreme outliers on Capitol Hill, with the overwhelming majority of Republicans content to avoid the question. Many have stated that somehow the Dec. 14 meeting of the electoral college, in all 50 states, will provide a clear winner — perhaps naively expecting Trump to concede that point.
Still, as enough states have certified the results to make Biden the winner, Republicans still won’t publicly commit now to considering the Democrat the legitimately elected president when he wins the majority in the electoral college.
No one has a trickier task than Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), who is chairman of the Senate Rules Committee, which is in charge of all events on Capitol grounds for the Jan. 20 inauguration.
Committee staff have acknowledged that Biden is the winner and begun working with the president-elect’s team to plan the event, with much of the usual pomp and circumstance getting a new look for social distancing during the pandemic.
“We are working with the Biden administration, likely administration, on both the transition and the inauguration,” Blunt said Sunday on CNN, catching himself after he declared Biden the winner.
He paused and tried to explain how he still is awaiting the electoral college decision in a few days.
Is Joe Biden the president-elect?
“Well, the president-elect will be the president-elect when the electors vote for him. There is no official job president-elect,” he said.
Blunt’s office did not answer The Post’s question on whether he would accept Biden as the legitimately elected president if he wins the majority in the electoral college.

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I've never seen someone who isn't a US citizen or at least a resident so obsessed with US politics.
 
D

Dude#1279435

Senior Audioholic
Let me say this: My opinion of the G.O.P. has changed, to put it mildly, over the last 4 years, tempered by Republicans (mostly) at local and state level in their handling and response of the 2020 election.


"
Just 25 congressional Republicans acknowledge Joe Biden’s win over President Trump a month after the former vice president’s clear victory of more than 7 million votes nationally and a convincing electoral-vote margin that exactly matched Trump’s 2016 tally.

Two Republicans consider Trump the winner despite all evidence showing otherwise. And another 222 GOP members of the House and Senate — nearly 90 percent of all Republicans serving in Congress — will simply not say who won the election.
Those are the findings of a Washington Post survey of all 249 Republicans in the House and Senate that began the morning after Trump posted a 46-minute video Wednesday evening in which he wrongly claimed he had defeated Biden and leveled wild and unsubstantiated allegations of “corrupt forces” who stole the outcome from the sitting president.

A team of 25 Post reporters contacted aides for every Republican by email and phone asking three basic questions — who won the presidential contest, do you support or oppose Trump’s continuing efforts to claim victory and if Biden wins a majority in the electoral college, will you accept him as the legitimately elected president — and also researched public statements made by the GOP lawmakers in recent weeks to determine their stance on Biden’s win.
See how Republican lawmakers responded to The Post’s questions

The results demonstrate the fear that most Republicans have of the outgoing president and his grip on the party, despite his new status as just the third incumbent to lose reelection in the last 80 years. More than 70 percent of Republican lawmakers did not acknowledge The Post’s questions as of Friday evening.
They are largely hiding from answering questions about the election, neither congratulating Biden nor embracing Trump’s most strident positions and false claims. Just eight Republicans, 3 percent of all GOP lawmakers, voiced support for Trump’s current strategy of claiming victory and asking state legislatures to declare him the victor in states that he lost.
This GOP nonresponse stands in stark contrast to Democrats in 2016. The morning after media outlets called Trump the winner, Hillary Clinton conceded and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N. Y) fielded a call from Trump. Schumer issued a statement shortly thereafter congratulating the president-elect and calling for Americans to “come together.”
Today, most Republicans just want to avoid the Trump question altogether, following the lead of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), whose office pointed to his recent comments about the election and declined to participate in the survey.
Most Republicans greet Trump’s push to overturn the election with a customary response: Silence
On Tuesday, McConnell ducked questions about Trump’s claim of fraud and refused to take any leadership role in acknowledging Biden’s victory.

“The future will take care of itself,” he told reporters.
On Thursday, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) would not even consider how he would fight executive orders in Biden’s first days in office, leaving open the idea that someone else could be sworn in on Jan. 20.
“Let’s wait until [we see] who’s sworn in,” McCarthy said, “and we can discuss that.”
Today’s reactions — or, mostly, non-reactions — mirror how many Republicans handled four years of Trump’s intemperance: A few predictable Trump critics would condemn his actions, such as the decision to use tear gas on peaceful protesters to clear Lafayette Square in June so Trump could walk across the park, but most would try to avoid the subject.
Their complicit silence now comes as Trump continues to mount an unfounded campaign against the democratic outcome of an election, leaving them isolated as other federal, state and local Republican officials have rejected Trump’s false assertions.
Even Kellyanne Conway — Trump’s 2016 campaign manager and longtime adviser, who famously coined the phrase “alternative facts” — went further than most Republican members of Congress. She admitted Friday that it looked like Biden “will prevail” and called for a “peaceful transfer of democracy.”
On Tuesday, Attorney General William P. Barr declared that the Justice Department had not found any evidence of voter fraud that would change the outcome of the election, following the top election cybersecurity official’s declaration that the election had been safe from any hacking.
The president summarily fired that official, Christopher Krebs, and is said to be weighing action against Barr.
The Trump campaign has suffered multiple losses in their post-election legal challenges to overturn the results, with stinging defeats Friday in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada and Wisconsin.
In Arizona and Nevada, judges tossed full-scale challenges to the states’ election results filed by the Republican Party and the campaign, respectively.
Last month, U.S. District Judge Matthew W. Brann dismissed a Trump campaign lawsuit to block the certification of Pennsylvania’s election results, and in a scathing opinion, wrote that the campaign had “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations” in its effort to throw out millions of votes.
“In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state,” Brann wrote.
Judges turn back claims by Trump and his allies in six states as the president’s legal effort founders
Two Michigan Republican legislative leaders, after being summoned to the White House, announced they would not intervene to block Biden’s relatively comfortable win there. In Arizona, Republican Gov. Doug Ducey signed election results Monday certifying Biden’s narrow victory there, saying a bipartisan collection of local officials oversaw a clean election.
In Georgia, Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, both Republicans, certified Biden’s slender victory there and have resisted calls from Trump and his supporters to throw out the results.
One of Raffensperger’s deputies implored the state’s U.S. senators, Republicans David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, to oppose Trump’s efforts, warning of potential violence to civil servants.
Instead, Perdue’s public and private actions are emblematic of how many Republicans feel.
With him and Loeffler facing Jan. 5 runoff elections that will determine the Senate majority, the two have publicly embraced Trump’s baseless claim that the Dominion Voting Systems machines used in Georgia were rigged as part of a global conspiracy, hoping to retain support among the president’s strongest backers. Both also have called for Raffensperger to resign.
Yet, in a video obtained by The Post, Perdue privately acknowledged the reality that Trump lost and that Republicans needed to focus on those Georgia races to save the Senate majority.
“We can at least be a buffer on some of the things that the Biden camp has been talking about,” he told donors on a video conference.
Other highlights from the survey found that:
* 11 of the 52 Senate Republicans acknowledge Biden’s victory;
* of the 14 House Republicans who recognize the true winner, six are retiring from politics at the end of this month and two more represent districts that Biden won convincingly.
Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) went as far as any Republican in embracing Biden. The two worked together on the “Beau Biden Cancer Moonshot” proposal, named for Biden’s son who died of brain cancer in 2015, turning it into a massive 2016 medical research bill.
Within hours of the Nov. 7 declaration of Biden’s victory, Upton vowed to work with the new administration.
“I am raising my hand and committing to work with President-elect Biden and my colleagues on both sides of the aisle,” he said.
Sen. Patrick J. Toomey (R-Pa.) held out until Nov. 21 when a federal judge, ushered to confirmation by the staunch conservative senator, issued a scathing rebuke of Trump’s legal challenges in Pennsylvania and gave a legal seal of approval to Biden’s win there.
“Joe Biden won the 2020 election and will become the 46th President of the United States. I congratulate President-elect Biden,” Toomey said in a statement.
Judges in other states have repeatedly rebuffed the Trump campaign’s legal challenges, and on Friday the effort suffered losses in Michigan, Arizona and Nevada.
Reps. Paul A. Gosar (Ariz.) and Mo Brooks (Ala.) are the only Republicans in Congress who have publicly insisted Trump is the winner. Gosar has spent several weeks embracing the disproved conspiracy theory that the Dominion voting machines used in Arizona, Georgia and some other states manipulated the results and stole the election for Biden. Dominion has called the claims unfounded.
He said he will never accept the Democrat as the legitimately elected president. “No, never. Too much evidence of fraud,” he said.
But Brooks and Gosar are extreme outliers on Capitol Hill, with the overwhelming majority of Republicans content to avoid the question. Many have stated that somehow the Dec. 14 meeting of the electoral college, in all 50 states, will provide a clear winner — perhaps naively expecting Trump to concede that point.
Still, as enough states have certified the results to make Biden the winner, Republicans still won’t publicly commit now to considering the Democrat the legitimately elected president when he wins the majority in the electoral college.
No one has a trickier task than Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), who is chairman of the Senate Rules Committee, which is in charge of all events on Capitol grounds for the Jan. 20 inauguration.
Committee staff have acknowledged that Biden is the winner and begun working with the president-elect’s team to plan the event, with much of the usual pomp and circumstance getting a new look for social distancing during the pandemic.
“We are working with the Biden administration, likely administration, on both the transition and the inauguration,” Blunt said Sunday on CNN, catching himself after he declared Biden the winner.
He paused and tried to explain how he still is awaiting the electoral college decision in a few days.
Is Joe Biden the president-elect?
“Well, the president-elect will be the president-elect when the electors vote for him. There is no official job president-elect,” he said.
Blunt’s office did not answer The Post’s question on whether he would accept Biden as the legitimately elected president if he wins the majority in the electoral college.

"
Why I probably cannot ever vote Republican again. Sometime you can never go back. Then there's Hannity, Rush, O'Reilly, Tucker, Ingraham, Gaetz, Con-way etc. poop, Rush has stage four cancer and is still willing to toe the line. It's a shitty environment to be in.
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Field Marshall
Why I probably cannot ever vote Republican again. Sometime you can never go back. Then there's Hannity, Rush, O'Reilly, Tucker, Ingraham, Gaetz, Con-way etc. poop, Rush has stage four cancer and is still willing to toe the line. It's a shitty environment to be in.
At one point it's no longer about policy where we all can disagree to disagree and live along peacefully. Now it's becoming a struggle for democracy, once again, and rule of law, once again, and so many Republicans thinks the same. At local and state level Republicans have generally been staunchly pro-democracy at high personal cost, and that I think should be recognized.

At this stage silence is Trump assent with respect to the US 2020 elections, but how do @Irvrobinson respond? The guy who fears the radical left? He knows very well that I live in Sweden, but here is response: "I've never seen someone who isn't a US citizen or at least a resident so obsessed with US politics. " That is very ignorant or an reflection of too much Fox News?
 
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At one point it's no longer about policy where we all can disagree to disagree and live along peacefully. Now it's becoming a struggle for democracy, once again, and rule of law, once again, and so many Republicans thinks the same. At local and state level Republicans have generally been staunchly pro-democracy at high personal cost, and that I think should be recognized.

At this stage silence is Trump assent with respect to the US 2020 elections, but how do @Irvrobinson respond? The guy who fears the radical left? He knows very well that I live in Sweden, but here is response: "I've never seen someone who isn't a US citizen or at least a resident so obsessed with US politics. " That is very ignorant or an reflection of too much Fox News?
Trump will have to die off and some of the Republicans into retirement. Specifically McConnell and Graham. But even then the odor still sits. I doubt Faux can be saved. Unlike the representatives, I see them on screen all the time LOL.:p
 
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