Finally, for us vinyl enthusiasts!

[WmAx]

Wmax Sorry, the audio signal is compressed when it is placed onto a vinyl record.

I think you are addressing the wrong user with this reply.

-Chris

 

[ruadmaa]

Vinyl, an original signal/Digital Compressed???

I think you are addressing the wrong user with this reply.

-Chris

Sorry, my reply was addressed to Shadow Ferret

 

[shokhead]

A no-touch laser turntable.

No wear. Our irriplaceable albums will last forever.

Take that, you CD people!

Still wont fit in my car player.

 

[Shadow_Ferret]

Wmax Sorry, the audio signal is compressed when it is placed onto a vinyl record. If it weren't your stylus would jump out of the groove when extremely loud bass passages were played such as the "digital cannons on the Telarc 1812 overture. Vinyl is most certainly not an exact copy of the original sound. Digital sound misses nothing when it is sampled. This was gone over time and again when digital audio first came out. IF you like analog sound, great just don't say it is better than digital sound, it isn't. The new high resolution audio disks such as DVD Audio and SACD blow vinyl away, not to mention the multi channel sound capabilities.

You've obviously never watched my needle when I've played my digital vinyl version of the 1812 Overture.

By the way, I wasn't infering anything. Someone else started bringing up the "digital vs. analog" thing.

My only comment was that in other threads it has been brought up that vinyl deteriorates with use and that this turntable would thus make that point moot.

So, you erroneously used the word 'compressed' -- as I suspected.

-Chris

Yes, and it wouldn't be the first time I erroneously did something.

 

[Rock&Roll Ninja]

It's machined out of solid magnesium and the price range is around $55,400 US

Who buys this stuff? 99.99% of humanity couldn't afford to waste such money, and the 0.01% of the population (presumabley oil barrons, South American cocaine lords, and Audio magazine editors) that could afford a million-dollar system wouldn't spend that LITTLE on a turn-table, they buy $250,000 turntables with $30,000 tone arms and $25,000 cartridges.

 

[RJB]

Who buys this stuff? 99.99% of humanity couldn't afford to waste such money

I think you missed a couple of 9's after the decimal place...

Even if I won the lottery I could still come up with better ways to waste some money...

 

[mtrycrafts]

A pristine copy of vinyl and a clean CD on hi-end equipment. I doubt you can tell the difference.

All depends on the needs of the mastering. Vinyl has limits that the CD will exceed handsomly. And, C D will sound different and more accurate for sure, especially in the high bands.

 

[mtrycrafts]

When you are listening to Vinyl you are listening to a 5th or 6th generation analog dupe from the master tapes.

If the CD were made directly from the same master tape as the vinyl disk it would be much better. Not only cleaner but not compressed as a vinyl disk would be. Sorry, it's a fact.

Much more. Less distortion, noise, better frequency response and higher dynamic range, if it is on the master tape

 

[mtrycrafts]

For that price it should make a great addition to my Bose "cube" speaker system!

You are killing me, ROTFLMAO

 

[mtrycrafts]

Actually, CDs are compressed. Happens in the sampling. Sorry, it's a fact.

And what about the vinyl albums made directly from the master tape?

What??? You should really look into this digital audio and vinyl bit.
There is no compression from sampling. That is a fact, not your guessing game.
But, there is man made compression by the engineer, dynamic compression.

Oh, yes, that direct to disc. You are still limited by it being a vinyl. It is inherently the weak link, period.

 

[mtrycrafts]

It's sampled. Therefore it isn't all there. Vinyl you get all the music, all the sound, all the peaks and valleys, the decay of the note.

CDs is sampled, therefore, chopped, it's bits and pieces of the music.

And I had a winkie there.

Total hogwash. It is all there. Vinyl is the one not there at all, but missing the accuracy of the venue, the master tape.
But, being gullible is only too human

 

[mtrycrafts]

The new high resolution audio disks such as DVD Audio and SACD blow vinyl away, not to mention the multi channel sound capabilities.

Sorry. CD redbook blows vinyl away just fine. Excluding the addition coming from multi channel, of course

 

[Shadow_Ferret]

Total hogwash. It is all there. Vinyl is the one not there at all, but missing the accuracy of the venue, the master tape.
But, being gullible is only too human

Please. Do you understand what "tongue-in-cheek" means?

I will say this in all honesty, I have yet to hear a CD come anywhere near the sound quality of my vinyl.

 

[Sleestack]

Please. Do you understand what "tongue-in-cheek" means?

I will say this in all honesty, I have yet to hear a CD come anywhere near the sound quality of my vinyl.

I would have to agree. It is difficult to get the proper setup, but when you do, nothing beats vinyl for 2 channel music.

 

[shokhead]

Please. Do you understand what "tongue-in-cheek" means?

I will say this in all honesty, I have yet to hear a CD come anywhere near the sound quality of my vinyl.

Better listen harder. You must miss the cracks and hiss not found in CD's.

 

[Shadow_Ferret]

Better listen harder. You must miss the cracks and hiss not found in CD's.

Sometimes, I do. The cracks and hiss brings back memories, but not all vinyl has cracks and hiss, not if you've taken good care of it. I have many that don't have any hiss or pops to them.


And actually, my statement is based on my own personal experience. I did not claim vinyl is superior to CDs. I said I have yet to hear a CD come anywhere near the sound quality of my vinyl. Which is a true and indisputable statement. Note the "yet" qualifier.

 

[jaxvon]

You guys ought to check out the Rockport Sirius System III turntable. It's about..oh..73k. All air driven. Rotation speed remains constant with up to 1G of acceleration. Tolerances are within millionths of an inch. It takes months to build one of them. That sounds like perfection to me, at least in the needle style.

 

[Sleestack]

Better listen harder. You must miss the cracks and hiss not found in CD's.

You don't hear all that if you have good vinyl and a proper setup.... but that's a big IF.

 

[Shadow_Ferret]

I wish I could afford something like that. My vinyl has to last me the rest of my life since many of them cannot be replaced by either another vinyl copy or a CD.

 

[Rock&Roll Ninja]

Have you considered transferring them to a digital format and burned onto some CD's? Then you wouldn't have to play your rare stuff anymore. Which may be historically important in coming decades if master tapes are damaged and whatnot.......,