EX-PRESIDENT INDICTED

[Mr._Clark]

Fascist trends have been concerning me also for quite awhile...Almost seems like Fascism was the ultimate goal of the whole Fox News movement, culminating in Trump and God knows what's to come after him.
Elsewhere in the world, the right is promising a better life to wield power...very concerning.

This makes the whole fantasy that the hardcore right wing is for the common man even more ridiculous.

It’s been said that a fascist is a populist except the fascist rejects democracy and uses violence to maintain control. Trump has made it perfectly clear that he wants to use violence to maintain control.

The Constitution was written for the specific purpose of preventing fascist control. Trump’s real problem is the Constitution.

 

[ben_]

The Constitution was written for the specific purpose of preventing fascist control. Trump’s real problem is the Constitution.

The US Constitution predates fascism by over 100 years. Fascism can spring from democracy, there's plenty of historical precedent. The idea that the structure of constitution will save the US from completing its slow slide into fascism is naive in the extreme. The only languages fascists understand and respect are power and violence. 30% of the country being openly fascist is a problem that very likely won't be solved just by voting...

Fascism manifests in different ways, and I think it would be more accurate to make comparisons to Spain under Franco, or Italy under Mussolini, than Germany under Hitler when it comes to predicting the form of fascism in the United States.

 

[Dude#1279435]

 

[highfigh]

So, even though it is a legal document in the police department that he attested to, it is not a crime of some degree?

I still want to know why the PD would take someone's word for it- why not just weigh them, since they have an infirmary?

 

[highfigh]

Yes, Trump and his followers fit the classic fascist mold. It is a really serious problem when a major party in what is essentially a two party system embraces fascism.
I think all citizens are going to have to get much more involved with active protest. The problem is that the fascists are making all the noise. It is time to oppose.

If people had been taught to think critically and clearly, this wouldn't be happening.

 

[Mr._Clark]

The US Constitution predates fascism by over 100 years. Fascism can spring from democracy, there's plenty of historical precedent. The idea that the structure of constitution will save the US from completing its slow slide into fascism is naive in the extreme. The only languages fascists understand and respect are power and violence. 30% of the country being openly fascist is a problem that very likely won't be solved just by voting...

Fascism manifests in different ways, and I think it would be more accurate to make comparisons to Spain under Franco, or Italy under Mussolini, than Germany under Hitler when it comes to predicting the form of fascism in the United States.

I think you misunderstood my post

 

[lovinthehd]

I still want to know why the PD would take someone's word for it- why not just weigh them, since they have an infirmary?

I'm guessing it was pre-arranged terms of surrender....and the scale may not go that high.

 

[highfigh]

I'm guessing it was pre-arranged terms of surrender....and the scale may not go that high.

While I could see him not wanting people to know his weight, I seriously doubt any prison or jail scale stops at 300lb, especially considering obesity in the US.

Not sure why anyone cares.

 

[mtrycrafts]

If people had been taught to think critically and clearly, this wouldn't be happening.

But that might be considered "indoctrination" in a number of states, no.

 

[Mr._Clark]

I'm guessing it was pre-arranged terms of surrender....and the scale may not go that high.

Pre-arranged would be my guess as well. But, in fairness, it’s not clear where the weight number came from.

According to the Washington Post, people present when some of the other defendants were booked stated that the defendants were not asked about their weight and they were not asked to step on a scale. The heights and weighs for some of the other defendants were also clearly not accurate.

I have yet to find a clear and reliable report concerning the source of Trump’s weight.

 

[lovinthehd]

Pre-arranged would be my guess as well. But, in fairness, it’s not clear where the weight number came from.

According to the Washington Post, people present when some of the other defendants were booked stated that the defendants were not asked about their weight and they were not asked to step on a scale. The heights and weighs for some of the other defendants were also clearly not accurate.

I have yet to find a clear and reliable report concerning the source of Trump’s weight.

Wouldn't be surprised if it were drumph's own press release. In any case it's funny. Believe he weighed 244 or so in last official presidential physical? I thought that had to be his concoction at the time....guess in his mind he has gone on a diet. In his mind he looks like this?

 

[Mr._Clark]

Wouldn't be surprised if it were drumph's own press release. In any case it's funny. Believe he weighed 244 or so in last official presidential physical? I thought that had to be his concoction at the time....guess in his mind he has gone on a diet. In his mind he looks like this?
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I’m leaning more towards the pre-reported by Trump explanation. ABC news reported that they were told that the weight was pre-supplied by Trump’s people and the AP reports that they were told that the numbers came from Trump.

 

[mtrycrafts]

I think that picture is missing the IQ in front of that number.

 

[ben_]

I think you misunderstood my post

If you think the constitution is what will save us here, I think you're wrong.

 

[Mr._Clark]

If you think the constitution is what will save us here, I think you're wrong.

Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election were unconstitutional

 

[ben_]

I didn't say anything about overturning the election. He was legitimately elected in 2016 and he was no less fascist then.

 

[Mr._Clark]

I didn't say anything about overturning the election. He was legitimately elected in 2016 and he was no less fascist then.

I agree that Trump was legitimately elected in 2016.

Do you agree that Trump's efforts to overturn the election in 2020 were unconstitutional?

Do you agree that "fascism is typically upfront about its outright rejection of democracy"?

The key difference between populism and fascism

An important lesson for right now.

qz.com

Do you agree that an outright rejection of democracy is contrary to the U.S. Constitution?

 

[ben_]

I agree that Trump was legitimately elected in 2016.

Do you agree that Trump's efforts to overturn the election in 2020 were unconstitutional?

Do you agree that "fascism is typically upfront about its outright rejection of democracy"?

The "Stop The Steal" movement and January 6th are/were obviously unconstitutional. Where we differ is that you don't think fascists can come to power via democratic processes, which is obviously incorrect.

 

[TLS Guy]

The "Stop The Steal" movement and January 6th are/were obviously unconstitutional. Where we differ is that you don't think fascists can come to power via democratic processes, which is obviously incorrect.

That is an untrue statement. Hitler won one election! Usually fascist dictators do come to power after winning elections. The problem is that the one they win is the last one!

 

[ben_]

That is an untrue statement. Hitler won one election! Usually fascist dictators do come to power after winning elections. The problem is that the one they win is the last one!

Ugh, I typo'd. I meant can't, and Hitler was exactly who I was alluding to. My apologies.