Emotiva isn't good becoz it's not in a mag, it's not in a mag becoz it isn't good...

[Adam]

Yep. Helps when the "lady" serving lives with me

You live with your mom? J/K!!!

I got dumped on by every single poster...And when I say every single poster I mean every single poster. That's an uncomfortable feeling and certainly not a welcoming one for a new member who tries to inject thought!

You clearly didn't read my post, or you didn't understand it.

 

[john72953]

You clearly didn't read my post, or you didn't understand it.

Does it matter? I clearly touched a nerve questioning a particular brand! Sponsorship anyone?

 

[TLS Guy]

Does it matter? I clearly touched a nerve questioning a particular brand! Sponsorship anyone?

It wasn't the manufacturer, that was the lightening rod, but the mention of Absolute Sound, and the implication that the cod's wallop spouted by their writers could give a seal of approval to anything.

 

[zhimbo]

Does it matter? I clearly touched a nerve questioning a particular brand!

The specific brand in question wasn't the issue. It was the implication of your post that something is suspicious if a product line doesn't appear in your favored audiophile media outlets, and that it can't be "that good".

That's the nonsense people were reacting to. And were telling you, quite clearly.

I see absolutely no fanboyism in this thread, except perhaps for "The Absolute Sound".

 

[john72953]

You could have done the search like I suggested, but you choose to continue in ignorance. I tried to support you, and then you turn around and be a jerk to me. So, no - you don't matter to me anymore.

Sorry, but I read through your posts and didn;t see anything that was linked for me to read.

 

[john72953]

The specific brand in question wasn't the issue. It was the implication of your post that something is suspicious if a product line doesn't appear in your favored audiophile media outlets, and that it can't be "that good".

That's the nonsense people were reacting to. And were telling you, quite clearly.

I see absolutely no fanboyism in this thread, except perhaps for "The Absolute Sound".

I have no fanboyism towards to The Absolute Sound. In fact, I much prefer reading UHF Magazine.

I suppose my post could be interpretted as suspicious to many. Maybe it was. But it came more from wanting to understand what makes this company's products so good, without ever hearing of them outside of a very closed community. If they were (and possibly are) this good..wouldn't there be some recognition elsewhere?

 

[Rogozhin]

What conclusion did you reach?

 

[john72953]

What conclusion did you reach?

Mike c hasn't closed the topic yet...so I'll let you know later! LOL

 

[bandphan]

You live with your mom? J/K!!!

.

Stay out of our twisted perverstiòns.
ivè got no dog in this hunt but the thread just screamed TROLL so i high jacked and luckly its a 2am bar and the chair swivels

 

[Matt34]

I have no fanboyism towards to The Absolute Sound. In fact, I much prefer reading UHF Magazine.

I suppose my post could be interpretted as suspicious to many. Maybe it was. But it came more from wanting to understand what makes this company's products so good, without ever hearing of them outside of a very closed community. If they were (and possibly are) this good..wouldn't there be some recognition elsewhere?

Who do you think is taking the place of print mags? Online mags like Audioholics are. Emotiva is a household name here and among many other A/V sites such as AVSforums which is one of the largest online forms on the web. We are now just starting to see some ID companies make it to print mags but I don't believe it's a priority for most. I believe last year was the first time SVS was featured in Stereophile yet they have been that good for a number of years prior (with substantial data to back it up).

If your true intentions where to find out what all the hype about Emotiva was and you should have asked for some objective third-party measurements not the dubious notion that because magazines don't cover a particular brand it must not be good.

 

[billy p]

I never heard of AV123, Ascend, SVS, Emovita etc... that was until weeks after I became a member. Although the OP thought he was asking a genuine question, most people still have no clue who these ID companies are! Unless your in the loop than this question appears less offensive or baited IMO.

Just my 2 cents, Bill

 

[Rickster71]

But if they were that good don't you think that mention of them outside of the accolades bestowed on them by this site, would be inevitable. Good is good and that good would be mentioned somewhere. But it isn't.

Tell me I'm wrong..show me..give me links.

Why not write TAS and ask them why they don't review Emotiva?

Let's say we go along with your supposition that Emotiva is an ID company that is "not good," because aren't in any
magazines like TAS.

Can you show us where you are right, and others here are wrong...show us...give us links.

Show links to small ID companies that are "good" and where they were reviewed favorably in TAS.

It took all of 15 seconds to find this review--http://www.ultimateavmag.com/surroundsoundpreampprocessors/805emo/

 

[OttoMatic]

Come on, guys. Is there really anything else to be said in this thread?

 

[Rickster71]

Come on, guys. Is there really anything else to be said in this thread?

'If' you're directing your comment toward me:
Since the majority of this thread transpired overnight; this is my first, and only post in this thread. (besides this response to you)
I would think it's up to the Mods to decide

 

[OttoMatic]

'If' you're directing your comment toward me:

Nope, not directed toward you; it was just a general comment.

 

[Davemcc]

And guesss what happened? I got dumped on by every single poster . My post got twisted and (now) ridiculed (by way of post topic change).

And when I say every single poster I mean every single poster. That's an uncomfortable feeling and certainly not a welcoming one for a new member who tries to inject thought!

Welcome to the age of the internet. Guess what? The wrath of anonymous posters will be turned on an inferior product just as harshly and just as quickly as they turned on you. If Emotiva were not "that good", the online minions would have chewed it up and spit it out for fun. Emotiva's survival in the ruthless world of internet marketing is proof enough that it's products make the grade.

I've got no dog in this hunt, either. I've seen and heard Emotiva's products. I like them but I haven't had the need or opportunity to buy anything. I don't ever read publications. I find the unedited comments of owners on the net provides more useful information about products. (Usually. Somehow it escaped my notice that Integra was not a company I would like to deal with, despite the great reviews.)

 

[zhimbo]

Unless your in the loop than this question appears less offensive or baited IMO.

Note that the original title of this thread was something like "If Emotiva is that good, then...", then continuing into the question regarding why it hasn't appeared in The Absolute Sound, etc.

So, it wasn't just a simple request for information.

Asking about a brand isn't offensive or baited. Challenging people to defend a brand that one admittedly knows nothing about, and suggesting that merely because you don't know about it from prior reading, something's suspect, and then immediately calling people "fanboys" for not convincing you within the hour...

That's offensive and baited.

 

[john72953]

Come on, guys. Is there really anything else to be said in this thread?

No there isn't! But as the TS, let me impart some final words.

My orginal thread title (If Emotiva is that good..) was meant as a legitimate question, but also one that I knew would generate a certain amount of backlash. I have responded to many of the posts with some vigor as I truly believe that my question was taken out of context and turned into something which it was not.

I NEVER said Emotiva wasn't good.
I NEVER said that unless it appears in a print ad it can't be good.
I NEVER said anything negative about Emotiva, but I didn't say anything positive either.

I ASKED a question.
I DID NOT make a statement.

I did elevate the topic by the use of such words as "fanboys", and perhaps that was taking it too far.

Along the way the thread title was changed making a mockery out of the question and to make a joke at my expense. I am now considered a troll by some and probably an idiot (or whatever else) by several more.

One thing I have learned is that I certainly won't ever participate in a topic that has the word Emotiva in it.

For the record, I am considering the XPA-2 to drive my Fronts as a temporary upgrade. My HT has to function as my 2-channel setup as well (for now) and by adding a seperate Power Amp I think I will get a better 2-channel experience.

John

 

[OttoMatic]

my question was taken out of context and turned into something which it was not.

the thread title was changed making a mockery out of the question...

make a joke at my expense...

I am now considered a troll...

and probably an idiot...

Yeah, welcome to Audioholics!

 

[TLS Guy]

I am now considered a troll by some and probably an idiot (or whatever else) by several more.

Only if you continue to admit to reading Absolute Sound.