Emotiva 5 channel amp? or?

[ParadigmDawg]

This is all there is to it:

http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/dd47/greggable/?action=view&current=Picture302.jpg

It is 125 lbs of something; if you added more heat sink you couldnt lift it and they run cold as ice.

You know the pretty blue light is cool you know. Seems like all Emotiva markets is the light. But where are the heat sinks? Heat sinks are a major component. Anyone have a picture of them?

And how is the Emotiva at producing stable power under any load? How about the transformer?

 

[Davemcc]

You know the pretty blue light is cool you know. Seems like all Emotiva markets is the light. But where are the heat sinks? Heat sinks are a major component. Anyone have a picture of them?

And how is the Emotiva at producing stable power under any load? How about the transformer?

All very good questions. I guess I'll be a guinea pig, of sorts.

Now you're making me nervous.

 

[Davemcc]

It is 125 lbs of something; if you added more heat sink you couldnt lift it and they run cold as ice.

My understanding is that the class H amps run cool by design, but Mazer's questions are entirely applicable to the class AB that run somewhat hotter.

 

[mazersteven]

I have to figure out all the classes of amps. That is why I don't post much in the Amps, Pre-Pros & Receivers section.

CLASSES OF AMPS
Class A: A small signal modulates a larger current. This larger current is present when the small signal is not present. Efficiency up to about 26 percent. Excellent quality sound.

Class B: Uses a push-pull arrangement where one amplification device operates on the positive side of the waveform and another operates on the negative side. Efficiency up to 75%. Sounds bad because of distortion caused by switching from one device to another.

Class C: A small signal turns a larger signal on or off. There is no in-between state. Efficiency up to 90 percent. Not usable for audio. Audio requires accurate reproduction of all levels—not just no power and full power levels.

Class D: A variation of Class C. Class D is a way of modulating a Class C amplifier to allow it to carry audio information. Sounds very good with latest technology. Efficiency up to 90 percent. Produces Electromagnetic Interference (EMI)

Class AB: A variation of Class B. Always has a small current flowing (class A operating region) and this eliminates the switching distortion inherent in Class B. Efficiency up to 65 percent. Sounds excellent—if well-designed

Class H: A variation of Class AB. Changes the power supply voltage to the amplifier depending on the signal level. Improved dynamic efficiency. Requires complex power supply. Single tone efficiency up to 65 percent Sounds excellent—if well-designed

 

[Warpdrv]

The other amps are class H. http://www.emotiva.com/ips1.html

Here is a pic from another thread. You can see the info sheet that it says class A/B.

Blahhh... I meant to say Class H.. I don't know why I always do that... that is the second time I have had to be corrected...

Anyways... I also would like to see what they have going on inside for future info here... As well as the ratings on the unit. I would imagine that I'll probably have to wait until after CES to get the whole lowdown... I hope not..


The SVS Floorstanders and the CC Speakers are 6ohm with only the bookshelf being 8ohm. So I wonder what the specs are for the amp and what it will be doing at 6ohm for my floorstanders and CC for me... here, they are all rated to take 250wpc... but if those are 8ohm ratings, then how much more power is this thing dishing out at 6ohm..

Also, just to go by weight, my Rotel amp is 75lbs... what the hell are they packing in this Emotiva...? if its 125lbs...

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I saw a local sale of a Rotel 1095 on Audiogon, thinking about it.... I will probably go with another identical Pioneer receiver for a preamp, unless suggestions lead me in another direction.

I say all ROTEL!

Rotel Amps and Rotel Preamp!

 

[Davemcc]

The SVS Floorstanders and the CC Speakers are 6ohm with only the bookshelf being 8ohm. So I wonder what the specs are for the amp and what it will be doing at 6ohm for my floorstanders and CC for me... here, they are all rated to take 250wpc... but if those are 8ohm ratings, then how much more power is this thing dishing out at 6ohm..

The IPS is rated to 2ohm stable, so it shouldn't have any trouble with a 6ohm load. But its a funny spec, 150wpc into 8ohm, 200wpc into 4ohm. You would think that it would be closer to 250-275wpc into 4ohm.

If the XPA ever shows up, I'll have it hooked to at least one (center) 6ohm nom/4ohm min 86-87db/w speaker and some 8ohm nom/6ohm min, 86-87 db/w mains. I'll find out how it handles heat in that situation.

 

[Warpdrv]

I say all ROTEL!

Rotel Amps and Rotel Preamp!

Ok a couple of things here...

1. I might have money, but that doesn't mean Im not frugal... Everything I do is usally based on what kind of deal I can work out....

2. If I get a Rotel again, Im just buying something that we already know about, who is going to be the guinea pig here and report back about their findings and how this new Amp works.

3. That freakin Emotiva is heavy !!! Wowsers...

4. The Price is certainly right as well, and I think worth the wait.

 

[mazersteven]

Ok a couple of things here...

who is going to be the guinea pig here and report back about their findings and how this new Amp works.

3. That freakin Emotiva is heavy !!! Wowsers...

4. The Price is certainly right as well, and I think worth the wait.

So then pull the trigger, and pre order one already.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Let me remind you I am talking the weight of the MPS not the new amp.

Also, just to go by weight, my Rotel amp is 75lbs... what the hell are they packing in this Emotiva...? if its 125lbs...

 

[Warpdrv]

So then pull the trigger, and pre order one already.

Forgive me, but I am not all that together with the Emotiva website, where is that preorder spot for that amp... is there a deal?

I think I need to get some more info out of them first about the specs on this beast..


Also I thought it would be you mazer to spot something that I posted here in this thread... checking if all you a'll are paying attention...

 

[Warpdrv]

Let me remind you I am talking the weight of the MPS not the new amp.

Oh... my bad... thought it was this new unit here... thats kinda better, as shipping on that monster would be rediculus...

 

[mazersteven]

Also I thought it would be you mazer to spot something that I posted here in this thread... checking if all you a'll are paying attention...

What the Guinea Pig comment?

 

[Davemcc]

Forgive me, but I am not all that together with the Emotiva website, where is that preorder spot for that amp... is there a deal?

I think I need to get some more info out of them first about the specs on this beast..


Also I thought it would be you mazer to spot something that I posted here in this thread... checking if all you a'll are paying attention...

You have to call to get on the list. You can ask any questions while you have them on the line, if they have the info. The final product and specs may not finished yet. All we've been basing our discussion on is the prototype. Could have been a mock-up for all I know.

Besides, I thought I was the guinea pig? That position is already filled. You get to be the trial monkey.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

They only charged me 50 bucks to deliver.

Call them and talk to Lonnie; tell him I am pissed and this concerns you and then say I bet he will settle down if you send him something for free

Oh... my bad... thought it was this new unit here... thats kinda better, as shipping on that monster would be rediculus...

 

[Warpdrv]

The SVS Floorstanders and the CC Speakers are 6ohm with only the bookshelf being 8ohm. So I wonder what the specs are for the amp and what it will be doing at 6ohm for my floorstanders and CC for me... here, they are all rated to take 250wpc... but if those are 8ohm ratings, then how much more power is this thing dishing out at 6ohm..

Somewhere in here...

 

[Warpdrv]

You have to call to get on the list. You can ask any questions while you have them on the line, if they have the info. The final product and specs may not finished yet. All we've been basing our discussion on is the prototype. Could have been a mock-up for all I know.

Besides, I thought I was the guinea pig? That position is already filled. You get to be the trial monkey.

Well now, looking at your location here, I have a feeling that I will be getting one of these units before you..

 

[Warpdrv]

Just got off the phone with Lonnie at Emotiva, (Thanks alot for your help) and he was saying info release after the first of the year. The XPA-5 will be weighing around 75 lbs. Putting out roughly 225watts or so per channel driven into 8ohms, and around 325wpc into 4ohms. He didn't give out too much info, for obvious reasons.

I asked about Preorder and he said shoot out an email to sales and ask to be put on the list. They haven't started the list yet, but I will start the procedure. He was expecting release in about 6 weeks or so. Deffinately will be worth the wait for me...

We also talked for a bit about Pre-Pro's and they are eagerly awaiting the release of the latest video processing chips(Genesis Torino processor), that are unfortunately being delayed by the manufactures. Funny how less then a year ago the hottest thing out there was the Anthem Statement D2, and reading the thread over at AVS that thing seems to have been nothing but troubles...

Any who, just thought I would give you guys the heads up...

Warp Out

 

[ZoFo]

Don't forget about Outlaw

The 7200 is a very solid 5 channel fully balanced Amp made in California by ATI. If you are mounting your amp far away from your pre/pro you definetly want to use XLR connectors. I have had the Outlaw 7700, same amp but has 7 channels, have used it daily for over a year now with no issues whatsoever with it. I plan to have this amp for decades, it's built like frigging tank. Outlaws Customer Service is top-notch, they sent me out a replacement part that I lost free of charge the day I called, never seen a complaint in their Forum either.

I also just purchased the Emo IPS-1 & and am very happy with it, it's a class H design and like all of Emo's class-H it's a mono-block design with each channel having it's own dedicated transformer and it runs very, very cool. The XPA will be a class A/B and it will have one or more likely two very large transformers that are shared by each of the channels, it is supposed to be a fully balanced amp and not just a single-end design with XLR connectors like some. It sounds like a really great deal and I almost decided to wait for it but wanted to try a mono-block class-H amp and the IPS was on sale. They really got me this year with all of these sales, all started when a 4ohm center channel went on sale and of course that required more power, and hey why not a new pre-pro while you are at it, and a new source to enjoy it all with!

 

[rnatalli]

I have nothing against Rotel as I think they make one of the best products out there. Rotel and Emotiva amps are pretty close in quality across the board. You will hear some horror stories on both sides. The way I see it is that a Rotel amp of comparable power to an Emotiva amp will probably cost twice as much. Having heard amps from both sides, I don't feel Rotel earns twice the price. Just my opinion.