Dream Speakers Under $6,000 Retail

[DenPureSound]

What MFG/Model is This One ??

Here is what I am thinking for Front Towers - Big/Bold and with A Statement!!

Volume of box = ~5 cu. ft.

Woofs = One or Two 8" or 10" Woofs

Mids = Dual 6.5" in a MTM config. at top of encl.

Tweet = Pure Beryllium or RAAL, between the Mids...

either ML-TL or bass reflex...

w/ 4th order LR Xovers at around 650 and 3Khz.

Some box that can handle Power and not Fold up on itself.

Tall box maybe 45-48 in. tall, and about 12" wide...

What MFG/MODEL is this?? HELP ??

and About $3K per Pair.

PLEASE CHIME IN...

 

[GranteedEV]

*tumbleweed rolls by*

You won't get it for under $10K commercially. And it still won't be as good as that Geddes Abbey.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

*tumbleweed rolls by*

"The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly" theme song plays.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_zeiKrRTuk&v=h_zeiKrRTuk&gl=US

 

[DenPureSound]

*tumbleweed rolls by*

You won't get it for under $10K commercially. And it still won't be as good as that Geddes Abbey.

How did you know we have ** Tumbleweed Rolling By ** here all the time.

It sounds like the KEF R900 to me -- but over the $3K by about $500.

 

[Nuance AH]

*tumbleweed rolls by*

You won't get it for under $10K commercially. And it still won't be as good as that Geddes Abbey.

That is one speaker I'd really like to hear. But I have to be honest...I just don't know. Is it really that good?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Front Towers Big/Bold and with A Statement - Philharmonic
Volume of box 5c.f. = Philharmonic
Woofs = One or Two 8" or 10" Woofs = Philharmonic

Mids = Dual 6.5" in a MTM config. at top of encl = not Philharmonic since has one midrange

Tweet = Pure Beryllium or RAAL = Philharmonic
either ML-TL or bass reflex= Philharmonic
w/ 4th order LR Xovers at around 650 and 3Khz = Philharmonic
Some box that can handle Power and not Fold up on itself = Philharmonic
Tall box maybe 45" tall, and about 12" wide = Philharmonic is close
and About $3K per Pair = Philharmonic

So 9 out of 10 items listed would be close to Philharmonic 2 or 3.

Why do you need dual midrange in MTM?

 

[Dennis Murphy]

Front Towers Big/Bold and with A Statement - Philharmonic
Volume of box 5c.f. = Philharmonic
Woofs = One or Two 8" or 10" Woofs = Philharmonic

Mids = Dual 6.5" in a MTM config. at top of encl = not Philharmonic since has one midrange

Tweet = Pure Beryllium or RAAL = Philharmonic
either ML-TL or bass reflex= Philharmonic
w/ 4th order LR Xovers at around 650 and 3Khz = Philharmonic
Some box that can handle Power and not Fold up on itself = Philharmonic
Tall box maybe 45" tall, and about 12" wide = Philharmonic is close
and About $3K per Pair = Philharmonic

So 9 out of 10 items listed would be close to Philharmonic 2 or 3.

Why do you need dual midrange in MTM?

It's probably for sensitivity, power handling without compression. But you have to be careful with that configuaration, because most woofers that have good bass extension won't be able to come close tp the dual mids in sensitivity, so you'll either have to pad the MTM part way down and lose the sensitivity advantage, or go with a more sensitive bass driver that lacks extension, or double up on the woofs. And that means a Biiiggg hog cabinet.

 

[GranteedEV]

That is one speaker I'd really like to hear. But I have to be honest...I just don't know. Is it really that good?

Dunno. But it at least has a focus on polar response and flat frequency response. Any 6.5" MTM with flush mount tweeter crossed at 3khz (as described above) IMO will need side wall treatments OTOH to sound consistent in different rooms... which will reduce spaciousness.. unless voiced to compensate which will make it room sensitive... which is just problematic IMO.

...or maybe not..? *shrug* Some people get lucky with custom voiced speakers and their room.. some don't care/notice.. myself included mind you.

TAD R1, AK Plantarium Beta, and SS12 probably (hopefully) still better i assume.. but they're each over 10K unlike abbey at 6K.

 

[DenPureSound]

Front Towers Big/Bold and with A Statement - Philharmonic
Volume of box 5c.f. = Philharmonic
Woofs = One or Two 8" or 10" Woofs = Philharmonic

Mids = Dual 6.5" in a MTM config. at top of encl = not Philharmonic since has one midrange

Tweet = Pure Beryllium or RAAL = Philharmonic
either ML-TL or bass reflex= Philharmonic
w/ 4th order LR Xovers at around 650 and 3Khz = Philharmonic
Some box that can handle Power and not Fold up on itself = Philharmonic
Tall box maybe 45" tall, and about 12" wide = Philharmonic is close
and About $3K per Pair = Philharmonic

So 9 out of 10 items listed would be close to Philharmonic 2 or 3.

Why do you need dual midrange in MTM?

Front Towers Big/Bold and with A Statement - KEF R900 or Philharmonic (KEF is more a Monkey Coffin Box vs. PHIL has tapered top look)

Volume of box 5 c.f. = Philharmonic / KEF R900 is around 3.5 cu. ft.

Woofs = One or Two 8" or 10" Woofs = KEF R900 has 2 - 8" woofs and Philharmonic 2 and 3 have 1 - 8" woof

Mids = Dual 6.5" in a MTM config. at top of encl = not Philharmonic since has one midrange, and also KEF R900 has one MF driver (KEF UniQ is a Point Source MF/HF driver w/ Z-Flex Ring)

Tweet = Pure Beryllium or RAAL = Philharmonic RAAL and KEF R900 has Mag/Alum tweet w/ Tangerine W.G.

either ML-TL or bass reflex= Philharmonic ML-TL and KEF R900 has Bass Reflex (4 Ports) designed w/ Computational Fluid Dynamics

w/ 4th order LR Xovers at around 650 and 3Khz = Philharmonic, and 2nd order Xover with KEF R900

Some box that can handle Power and not Fold up on itself = Philharmonic (?) as it is not measured per D.M. (What happens at say 100-110dB??), where KEF R900 is 115dB Max. Output.

Tall box maybe 45" tall, and about 12" wide = Philharmonic 2 is 41.5"H x 11.5"W x 21"D and KEF R900 = 46.5" w/ Plinth High, and 9.4"W x 14.4"D
(both positioning the tweet close to ear heighth.. good thing).

Both have 3 Drivers.

and About $3K per Pair = Philharmonic 3 ($3K) and KEF R900 = <$3.5K

 

[DenPureSound]

Totem Forest at ~$4K

You'll need to break them in though...[Must be a French Thingy..]

http://totemacoustic.com/en/hi-fi/columns/forest/specifications/

Break in time: 100 – 150 hours

Notice the Recommended power: 50 - 200 W

How does the Phil 2 and Phil 3 spec out here?

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But here is the Totem WIND - sorry ADTG went over again per GRANT at $9350 and UP... Love the Looks, but not the Price this year!

Break in time: 200 - 250 hours
Placement from rear wall: 3' - 7' / 914 - 2,134 mm
Placement distance apart: 6' - 14' / 1,828 - 4,267 mm
Frequency Response: 24 Hz - 21 kHz ± 3 dB (in room)
Impedance: 4 ohms
Sensitivity: 87 dB
Recommended Power: 80 - 250 W
Crossover frequency: Woofer to mids
2nd order / 2nd order
Mids to tweeter
2nd order / 2nd order
Woofer: 8.5" / 220 mm cast frame,
specially damped.
High power handling.
Long throw characteristics.
Mid-Woofers (2): 3" / 76 mm voice coil. Cast frame. High power handling.
Wrap-around neodymium
magnet structure.
Accurate linear throw.
Tweeter: 1" / 25 mm alloy dome flexible
linear suspension.
Special low resonance
tweeter with chamber.
Max SPL's: In average room
(12' x 20' / 4 m x 6 m)
114 dB peak from pair at 7' / 2 m
Dimensions (w x h x d): 10.7 x 44.3 x 14"
273 x 1,125 x 355 mm
(over max. size)

and Can It ROCK out... for all those that LOVE youtube high-quality sound, {LOL}...

Advance Acoustic Room, Totem Speakers, Salon Son et Image, Sony A55, Montreal, 2 April 2011 - YouTube

 

[GranteedEV]

Totem Dreamcatcher:

Totem Dreamcatcher loudspeaker Measurements | Stereophile.com

I was disappointed by its measured performance.—John Atkinson

 

[DenPureSound]

Klipsch RF-7II -- BIG/BOLD STATEMENT!

at 5.2 cu. ft. of Volume

Two 10" (25.4cm) Cerametallic cone woofers.

Price = ~ $1100 per Box.

Weight = 87.1 #'s per Box.

POWER HANDLING: 250W RMS / 1000W Peak

HIGH FREQUENCY DRIVER: 1.75" (4.45cm) Titanium diaphragm compression driver

CROSSOVER FREQUENCY: 1200Hz

 

[DenPureSound]

Totem Dreamcatcher:

Totem Dreamcatcher loudspeaker Measurements | Stereophile.com

UtO... glad you found that one Grant. Ok, set the totem forest aside as well.

RF-7II's ... see Big Box and Bold Statement at 5.2 cu. ft.

Dimensions: 48.5" H x 11.6" W x 16" D

 

[Nuance AH]

Due to the Kef's not being available at any dealers right now in your area (or mine for that matter), I'd go with the Philharmonic speakers. Salk has proven itself to offer extraordinary performance for the money, and Murphy has designed the crossovers for Salk's speakers (well, most of them). Granted, there is a lot more involved in speaker design than the crossover, but even the best drivers won't sound correct without a proper crossover. Dennis knows what he's doing, and he's offering a silly amount of performance for the money. Salk's all sound very similar: dead accurate which great midrange resolution. The higher you go up in the line, the more bass punch and depth you get, along with slightly more midrange resolution and a refined top end. Although, every major Salk speaker line now offers the RAAL, so I guess it's better midrange resolution and bass the higher you go up. Why am I mentioning all this? Because if you like the "Salk Sound," I think it's safe to say you'll like the "Murphy Sound."

Of course, I could be completely wrong.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Totem Dreamcatcher:

Totem Dreamcatcher loudspeaker Measurements | Stereophile.com

That is the 2nd Totem I've seen that had bad measurements. I would put Totem in the "voice by ear" inaccurate speakers like Wilson Audio & Au Audio.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Salk's all sound very similar: dead accurate which great midrange resolution.

That's what I think about all the great speakers. They all sound very similarly great. They all sound very similarly dead accurate. They all measure similarly great. They all have similarly great imaging and soundstage.

 

[DenPureSound]

Wall of Energy

Take your Pick -- a wall of Energy!

Hope we have enough Amps...

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

That does look pretty good to me.
How does it measure?

 

[Rippyman]

I demoed Focal, Paradigm & Klipsch. I ended up with these

 

[lsiberian]

I demoed Focal, Paradigm & Klipsch. I ended up with these

You should probably pull those of the wall a bit more if you can. Definitely add some corner traps. GIK offers panels with pictures.