does double the speakers equal double the volume

[shadyJ]

I wish I could hear a live sound sub....do they dig deep or just play loud? To be honest, I am looking for something that will rattle the rafters,"seriously"... will the live sound subs connect to my denon receiver?

Pro audio subs don't really play that deep, but do have very loud output at 40 Hz and above. Not much of your music have content below 40 Hz, for example, that "I Shine" tune you like, I just took a look at a spectrogram of it, and its deepest bass fundamental is around 40 hz. If you want something that will play very deep and very loud, I would look at the JTR subwoofers mentioned in the above posts, or take a look at this article. Those subs are not cheap though. As for connecting to your Denon, some live sound subs are powered, and some will need you to add an amplifier. If I were you, I would stick with powered subs. They mostly have protection from over-driving, whereas a passive sub will have no such protection. If the SVS subs did not have strong limiters, you would doubtlessly have destroyed the driver in yours.

 

[herbu]

I am looking for something that will rattle the rafters,"seriously"

OK, nick. You're a full growed man, so I'm not gonna talk about hearing loss. There are some really good rafter-shaker subs out there, and you don't need a dedicated or 30amp circuit.

Two of them are the SVS PB13-Ultra and the Rythmik FV15HP. I have one of each in my system, and I can rupture your spleen if I want. In fact, I often watch action movies with a pillow on my lap to guard my colon from accidents.

They are connected to a Denon X4000, and I can control them separately. They can flex the windows in and out like a trampoline with a fat man on it, yet sound really good with music. If you want that visceral thump in the chest, you need power. Ported helps, but cannot substitute for power.

Get a couple big boy subs and enjoy. Oh, and keep an eye in the rear view mirror. You probably won't hear them coming next time.

 

[nicknewbie]

OK, nick. You're a full growed man, so I'm not gonna talk about hearing loss. There are some really good rafter-shaker subs out there, and you don't need a dedicated or 30amp circuit.

Two of them are the SVS PB13-Ultra and the Rythmik FV15HP. I have one of each in my system, and I can rupture your spleen if I want. In fact, I often watch action movies with a pillow on my lap to guard my colon from accidents.

They are connected to a Denon X4000, and I can control them separately. They can flex the windows in and out like a trampoline with a fat man on it, yet sound really good with music. If you want that visceral thump in the chest, you need power. Ported helps, but cannot substitute for power.

Get a couple big boy subs and enjoy. Oh, and keep an eye in the rear view mirror. You probably won't hear them coming next time.

thanks my friend,...am planning on sending back the svs-sb2000 and going with the pb-ultra-13.....just not real sure that it is "that" much bassier than the sb-2000.....its only an inch bigger in circumference??

 

[its phillip]

thanks my friend,...am planning on sending back the svs-sb2000 and going with the pb-ultra-13.....just not real sure that it is "that" much bassier than the sb-2000.....its only an inch bigger in circumference??

Here's a comparison of max clean output between the SB12-NSD (SB2000 predecessor) and the PB13-Ultra (20 hz tune):

At 20 hz the PB13U is producing 110.6 dB. The SB12 is producing 91.9 dB, an 18.7 dB difference. If you added 6 dB for every doubling of subs (which may or may not happen), you'd need approximately 9 SB12s to match the PB13U at 20 hz.

 

[crossedover]

thanks my friend,...am planning on sending back the svs-sb2000 and going with the pb-ultra-13.....just not real sure that it is "that" much bassier than the sb-2000.....its only an inch bigger in circumference??

Ok im going there.... You have been suggested subs that meet your ridiculous requirements and your "inch" bigger comment is what you come back with. I have certainly given you reading material to educate yourself. you have no clue what your doing and despite that i have linked multiple things, have you read one of them?? stop asking questions for what has been answered and read some articles. Call me an ass clown or whatever you want but every member has tried to help . If your info or lack of willingness to educate hampers you just stop. 1 day of reading and maybe you can move forward. Each thread started doesnt allow you to gasp the info your seeking. At 48 years old and structured institution history, why wont you listen. Im not answering "my way is best" but tryin to work with stubborn thoughts.

 

[crossedover]

Here's a comparison of max clean output between the SB12-NSD (SB2000 predecessor) and the PB13-Ultra (20 hz tune):

Whats that because its meaningless to the op, trust me

At 20 hz the PB13U is producing 110.6 dB. The SB12 is producing 91.9 dB, an 18.7 dB difference. If you added 6 dB for every doubling of subs, you'd need approximately 9 SB12s to match the PB13U at 20 hz.

 

[shadyJ]

thanks my friend,...am planning on sending back the svs-sb2000 and going with the pb-ultra-13.....just not real sure that it is "that" much bassier than the sb-2000.....its only an inch bigger in circumference??

The subs from Reaction and the pro-audio subs will majorly outperform the PB13 Ultra for your purposes. The PB13 digs deep and is very clean, but it doesn't get that loud.

 

[nicknewbie]

Ok im going there.... You have been suggested subs that meet your ridiculous requirements and your "inch" bigger comment is what you come back with. I have certainly given you reading material to educate yourself. you have no clue what your doing and despite that i have linked multiple things, have you read one of them?? stop asking questions for what has been answered and read some articles. Call me an ass clown or whatever you want but every member has tried to help . If your info or lack of willingness to educate hampers you just stop. 1 day of reading and maybe you can move forward. Each thread started doesnt allow you to gasp the info your seeking. At 48 years old and structured institution history, why wont you listen. Im not answering "my way is best" but tryin to work with stubborn .

you need a doctors appointment and a hug sounds like to me,....I am just asking questions to get feed back, by no means am I twisting your arm to respond.....you are choosing to do that......you do understand that don't you???????????????????

 

[crossedover]

you need a doctors appointment and a hug sounds like to me,....I am just asking questions to get feed back, by no means am I twisting your arm to respond.....you are choosing to do that......you do understand that don't you???????????????????

Nope by no means you are not, however you have been slow to answer or not answer questions at all. If you think that Im in need of a hug Ill ask my wife (it will probably get me a no) Asking questions are fine, ignoring the answers isnt. Look back thru all your posts and see what questions I asked that were never answered.. If you want help humble yourself and take it, if you want to be incarcerated by stupidity (did you have infirmary time in lock up) , by all means go for it. Ive taken the time to help as have others and you choose to keep doing it your way. Am i the one that needs an online friend or you ? Now GFYS if im the one needing a Drs apportionment. Ive been patient not calling out a troll, but Mr. you are a troll

 

[nicknewbie]

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you need a doctors appointment and a hug sounds like to me,....I am just asking questions to get feed back, by no means am I twisting your arm to respond.....you are choosing to do that......you do understand that don't you???????????????????

you are in t

 

[nicknewbie]

Nope by no means you are not, however you have been slow to answer or not answer questions at all. If you think that Im in need of a hug Ill ask my wife (it will probably get me a no) Asking questions are fine, ignoring the answers isnt. Look back thru all your posts and see what questions I asked that were never answered.. If you want help humble yourself and take it, if you want to be incarcerated by stupidity (did you have infirmary time in lock up) , by all means go for it. Ive taken the time to help as have others and you choose to keep doing it your way. Am i the one that needs an online friend or you ? Now GFYS if im the one needing a Drs apportionment. Ive been patient not calling out a troll, but Mr. you are a troll

Y-A-W-N,...........

 

[crossedover]

Y-A-W-N,...........

YAWN with stupidity.. lets see how many people get sucked into your Prison Troll Garb





starting now

 

[nicknewbie]

yawn,......s-t-r-e-t-c-h,.......yawn,,,,

 

[scaryjoe]

This is the best live sound sub, put a 5000 watt amp on it.

SB528z - EAW: Eastern Acoustic Works

SUBWOOFER

eaw.com

 

[TankTop5]

Please ignore everyone else, their information is based on modern design but completely ignores the genius of the 1970’s! What you need is a second pair of those Klipsch speakers and a good quadraphonic receiver, see if you can find one of these. Your audiologist will thank you for years of business.

Sansui QRX-9001 4-Channel AM/FM receiver Manual | HiFi Engine

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