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Didn't MLS post that some of the MFW's are actually assembled in Colorado, and that all go through some kind of inspection there as well?
According to Shifty, he's got two places in China making and Commandante Santiago of the world famous Uniaudio making boxes. They all don't use the same MDF (Uniaudio is alleged to use an MDF called Trupan) which 'may' require a different type of screw for effective attachment. Of course, they could've used things like t-nut inserts but... Final assembly is done in Colorado which constitutes assembly of the driver and amp. Shifty's talked about their having a rigorous 3-step QC program but I don't recall anyone asking the simple question of what the 3 steps are. I guess we'll have to ask their engineering department. Oh wait! They don't have one!Didn't MLS post that some of the MFW's are actually assembled in Colorado, and that all go through some kind of inspection there as well?
This is effecting some that were promised shipping dates two weeks ago.Dear Long Suffering LS-9 Customers:
I hope this note finds each of you well.
Today I wanted to send along a note of update and apology. I'm going to try to make it brief - given you are all probably very tired of the long litany of excuses and upsets that have gone along with your orders.
I thought that the 'new local supplier' had invested in a bunch of new equipment to speed up production.
Over the last two months we had been really excited with the emergence of a new local supplier that we all thought to be the answer to our prayers. We soon realized that because this supplier was too new and too inexperienced in production manufacturing we made the wrong decision with respect to you folks that have waited ever so patiently for your LS9's. Sadly, we saw after the delivery of the first several sets that while these were really beautiful - they were - nevertheless - more than four weeks late. Along the way we had many positive signs that allowed our hearts to be won over as well as our minds. but it became evident that we made the wrong decision from a production standpoint.
We contacted Jeff at Lucid and moved all of the orders back to him as we knew that the quality would be there - and while the delivery is slow from Jeff, he is nevertheless someone we could really rely on with respect to dates and finishes.
Below you will find the on or about shipment date of your order. I want to personally apologize to each of you for the additional delay - but with my promise that this new date is one we can all count on.
All of us at av123 wish to convey our apologies for my bad error in judgment. I allowed the promise of delivery to far outweigh the reality of these promises. I feel really bad about it - but I am also encouraged with Jeff's delivery timing - and our ability to get it done now.
With thanks,
Mark L. Schifter
I'm sure your sig line is winning you fans as well.lol! This is almost as funny as me losing more than 500pts in rep and now showing 4 red bars for the CraigV "Lets put JerryLove on ignore" thread! lmao!![]()
I'm sure your sig line is winning you fans as well.
Sorry, no idea who Joe Schmoe is, but I'll search for his posts, he looks like an interesting guySeems like maybe Joe Schmoe got an internet connection and a new handle.
Joe Schmoe was a hoot. He was a man that loved Klipsch speakers, God and especially George Bush.Heh, yeah I guess some people might not fully agree with my sig... But since religious views in sigs seemed to be popular here, I thought I'd also share my religious and snake oil beliefs... Hmmm... It might be a bit too strong though, I'll try to find something a little more refined...
Sorry, no idea who Joe Schmoe, but I'll search for his posts, he looks like an interesting guy
(sorry for OT!! Now back to your usual program...).
Mark has become remarkably good at throwing others underneath the bus, that's for certain.lol! This is almost as funny as me losing more than 500pts in rep and now showing 4 red bars for the CraigV "Lets put JerryLove on ignore" thread! lmao!
This part was truly classic: "Over the last two months we had been really excited with the emergence of a new local supplier that we all thought to be the answer to our prayers." rofl! You know it's bad when the CEO says that they're praying for their products to be finally delivered... Ouch! And go with a "new local supplier", most probably, unproven supplier then blame it on them when they can't deliver their last promised date? What's up with that?
And why does he keep referring to unknown people with their first names? Such as Jeff, Frank, Bob, etc? It makes it extremely unprofessional, and basically just shows as an attempt to put the blame others for their failings... Seems like they never do anything wrong, always the fault of Dan, Robert, Santi, etc... This Jeff guy at Lucid, how would he like it if people waiting for their speakers started to call him and tell him to move it? I don't understand most things about this company...
Oh well... More of the same... Sucks for those still waiting![]()
Who is their design/engineering team at the moment? It begs the question how attractive of a job this would be.Mark has become remarkably good at throwing others underneath the bus, that's for certain.
Was this a private email as I didn't find it on the 123 website. I guess this means that MLS is dumping Ruben aka 'Master Cabinet Man'? But it's good to hear he's sticking with Colombia because he can count on timely deliveries of B-stock subs with the lower grades of veneer. Frankly, I can't blame Ruben for being cautious in investing in CNC equipment given MLS's stellar commitments to prompt payment and contractual obligations.Another update from MLS:
Dear Long Suffering LS-9 Customers:
I hope this note finds each of you well.
Today I wanted to send along a note of update and apology. I'm going to try to make it brief - given you are all probably very tired of the long litany of excuses and upsets that have gone along with your orders.
I thought that the 'new local supplier' had invested in a bunch of new equipment to speed up production.
Over the last two months we had been really excited with the emergence of a new local supplier that we all thought to be the answer to our prayers. We soon realized that because this supplier was too new and too inexperienced in production manufacturing we made the wrong decision with respect to you folks that have waited ever so patiently for your LS9's. Sadly, we saw after the delivery of the first several sets that while these were really beautiful - they were - nevertheless - more than four weeks late. Along the way we had many positive signs that allowed our hearts to be won over as well as our minds. but it became evident that we made the wrong decision from a production standpoint.
We contacted Jeff at Lucid and moved all of the orders back to him as we knew that the quality would be there - and while the delivery is slow from Jeff, he is nevertheless someone we could really rely on with respect to dates and finishes.
Below you will find the on or about shipment date of your order. I want to personally apologize to each of you for the additional delay - but with my promise that this new date is one we can all count on.
All of us at av123 wish to convey our apologies for my bad error in judgment. I allowed the promise of delivery to far outweigh the reality of these promises. I feel really bad about it - but I am also encouraged with Jeff's delivery timing - and our ability to get it done now.
With thanks,
Mark L. Schifter
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Ruben the guy who came up with the Black Obsidian Stardust paint finish? Betcha those slow guys at Lucid will be using that.Mark has become remarkably good at throwing others underneath the bus, that's for certain.
Ah man this thread is comedy gold... lmao!!!Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Ruben the guy who came up with the Black Obsidian Stardust paint finish? Betcha those slow guys at Lucid will be using that.
(EM mine)Was this a private email as I didn't find it on the 123 website. I guess this means that MLS is dumping Ruben aka 'Master Cabinet Man'? But it's good to hear he's sticking with Colombia because he can count on timely deliveries of B-stock subs with the lower grades of veneer. Frankly, I can't blame Ruben for being cautious in investing in CNC equipment given MLS's stellar commitments to prompt payment and contractual obligations.