definitive technology speakers

[bruin62]

I spoke with def customer service today. I have 2 powered towers and the powered center. they told me if I connect just using speaker wire set the 3 speakers to large in the receiver settings. and don't turn the gain knob on each speaker past 12 o'clock. does this sound right to you guys?

 

[bruin62]

PS I also have 2 PB 3000 subs they said set at 120 hz an LFE + main in the settings

 

[Hetfield]

I had Def Tech speakers with subs built in for 20 years and I do remember that being a kinda unwritten rule. Kinda strange but yeah I believe that is the case.

 

[ski2xblack]

does this sound right to you guys?

PS I also have 2 PB 3000 subs they said set at 120 hz an LFE + main in the settings

Theoretically, what he told you would be correct. In theory, the def techs are "full-range" but in practice they're not, they merely have active woofers (they're not really "subwoofers" in terms of extension, linearity, or dynamic range) that pale in comparison to your highly capable subs. So, in practice you should set the speakers to small and implement bass management.

That makes for a gain matching mess, as you not only have to dial in your sub's gain level, but also the gain level of the powered woofers on the def techs, but that's not an insurmountable hurdle. I would address the speaker's gain first (Omnimic, REW, or even just an spl meter can assist with this, but don't sweat it too much if you have to use your ears and Victor Wooten tracks), and only after you do that, then work on integrating the subs (for which you can run Audyssey or whatever your AVR offers). Route lfe to the subs, not the def techs.

 

[TLS Guy]

I spoke with def customer service today. I have 2 powered towers and the powered center. they told me if I connect just using speaker wire set the 3 speakers to large in the receiver settings. and don't turn the gain knob on each speaker past 12 o'clock. does this sound right to you guys?

You did not say which Def Tech speakers you have, and that makes a difference. As you probably gather from other remarks speakers from that quarter are way short of optimal.

 

[Kingnoob]

Theoretically, what he told you would be correct. In theory, the def techs are "full-range" but in practice they're not, they merely have active woofers (they're not really "subwoofers" in terms of extension, linearity, or dynamic range) that pale in comparison to your highly capable subs. So, in practice you should set the speakers to small and implement bass management.

That makes for a gain matching mess, as you not only have to dial in your sub's gain level, but also the gain level of the powered woofers on the def techs, but that's not an insurmountable hurdle. I would address the speaker's gain first (Omnimic, REW, or even just an spl meter can assist with this, but don't sweat it too much if you have to use your ears and Victor Wooten tracks), and only after you do that, then work on integrating the subs (for which you can run Audyssey or whatever your AVR offers). Route lfe to the subs, not the def techs.

So running them full range would create an uncontrollable output of bass? Anyways ? Why does def tech call them subs?

I spoke with def customer service today. I have 2 powered towers and the powered center. they told me if I connect just using speaker wire set the 3 speakers to large in the receiver settings. and don't turn the gain knob on each speaker past 12 o'clock. does this sound right to you guys?

which model?

 

[isolar8001]

So running them full range would create an uncontrollable output of bass? Anyways ? Why does def tech call them subs?

which model?

10,000 posts between here and AVS, and you have never heard of the issues with Def Tech before ?
ski2xblack just described the big one.

Best thing to do with Def Techs if you want to add real subs is to get rid of them.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I used to own the DT flagships BP7000 and BP7001. The bass from these 4 speakers at once (one in each corner) was tremendous - I could feel and hear the walls in my previous house (3000 SF) shake like an earthquake, which was a lot of fun. Even from 25 FT away.

But I realized that putting amps inside any speaker or sub was a bad idea to me. So that’s the main reason I sold the DT and would never buy any speaker or subwoofer with built-in amp.

But when own the DT, I always set them to LFE and set them to small so that I could get sub in each of the 4 corners.

 

[Trell]

But I realized that putting amps inside any speaker or sub was a bad idea to me. So that’s the main reason I sold the DT and would never buy any speaker or subwoofer with built-in amp.

So you don't sell to the pro audio market that has for decades been using active speakers?

 

[Kingnoob]

10,000 posts between here and AVS, and you have never heard of the issues with Def Tech before ?
ski2xblack just described the big one.

Best thing to do with Def Techs if you want to add real subs is to get rid of them.

yep ski2xblack Is right why pay for a powered woofer just to use them as small is wasted money.
I know the amps suck , I guess marketing can call any woofer a sub if they choose too. Hundreds of threads like this …

The wonders(blunders) of Definitive Technology

Hi All Wanted to get some feedback from other forum members how there experiences (if any) have been with Def Tech. We have been Def Tech speakers for over 15 years in our family and just not happy with the fact that every few years or in some cases months their amps on the powered speakers...

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I used to own the DT flagships BP7000 and BP7001. The bass from these 4 speakers at once (one in each corner) was tremendous - I could feel and hear the walls in my previous house (3000 SF) shake like an earthquake, which was a lot of fun. Even from 25 FT away.

But I realized that putting amps inside any speaker or sub was a bad idea to me. So that’s the main reason I sold the DT and would never buy any speaker or subwoofer with built-in amp.

But when own the DT, I always set them to LFE and set them to small so that I could get sub in each of the 4 corners.

those must have been some heavy towers they go lower then any subs I’ve got down to 20hz. what did you replace them and the subs with? You must use an external amp then I assume they last a lot longer?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

So you don't sell to the pro audio market that has for decades been using active speakers?

I get clients what THEY want - whatever is best for THEM.

I get for MYSELF whatever is best for ME, which means no amps inside speakers or subs.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

what did you replace them and the subs with? You must use an external amp then I assume they last a lot longer?

I use RBH SX-T2 and SVT towers of power, which come with actual subwoofers.

Yes, I use external amps for my speakers and subwoofers.

 

[Kingnoob]

I use RBH SX-T2 and SVT towers of power, which come with actual subwoofers.

Yes, I use external amps for my speakers and subwoofers.

Woah talk about endgame stuff, those look spectacular. Must have been a huge task moving that heavy equipment. Very $$$.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Woah talk about endgame stuff, those look spectacular. Must have been a huge task moving that heavy equipment. Very $$$.

They are modular towers, so the top cabinet is about 100 lbs and the bottom cabinet is about 100 lbs.

That’s another thing I love about modular designs. You don’t have to deal with a 200 lbs speaker, just 100-lbs cabinets.

 

[Kingnoob]

They are modular towers, so the top cabinet is about 100 lbs and the bottom cabinet is about 100 lbs.

That’s another thing I love about modular designs. You don’t have to deal with a 200 lbs speaker, just 100-lbs cabinets.

must be a big upgrade from def tech!
That’s not bad considering how massive they look. not that I could move them. Wish I could afford something decent. Rbh looks really expensive!