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bruin62

Full Audioholic
I spoke with def customer service today. I have 2 powered towers and the powered center. they told me if I connect just using speaker wire set the 3 speakers to large in the receiver settings. and don't turn the gain knob on each speaker past 12 o'clock. does this sound right to you guys?
 
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bruin62

Full Audioholic
PS I also have 2 PB 3000 subs they said set at 120 hz an LFE + main in the settings
 
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Hetfield

Audioholic Samurai
I had Def Tech speakers with subs built in for 20 years and I do remember that being a kinda unwritten rule. Kinda strange but yeah I believe that is the case.
 
ski2xblack

ski2xblack

Audioholic Samurai
does this sound right to you guys?
PS I also have 2 PB 3000 subs they said set at 120 hz an LFE + main in the settings
Theoretically, what he told you would be correct. In theory, the def techs are "full-range" but in practice they're not, they merely have active woofers (they're not really "subwoofers" in terms of extension, linearity, or dynamic range) that pale in comparison to your highly capable subs. So, in practice you should set the speakers to small and implement bass management.

That makes for a gain matching mess, as you not only have to dial in your sub's gain level, but also the gain level of the powered woofers on the def techs, but that's not an insurmountable hurdle. I would address the speaker's gain first (Omnimic, REW, or even just an spl meter can assist with this, but don't sweat it too much if you have to use your ears and Victor Wooten tracks), and only after you do that, then work on integrating the subs (for which you can run Audyssey or whatever your AVR offers). Route lfe to the subs, not the def techs.
 
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TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
I spoke with def customer service today. I have 2 powered towers and the powered center. they told me if I connect just using speaker wire set the 3 speakers to large in the receiver settings. and don't turn the gain knob on each speaker past 12 o'clock. does this sound right to you guys?
You did not say which Def Tech speakers you have, and that makes a difference. As you probably gather from other remarks speakers from that quarter are way short of optimal.
 
Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Samurai
Theoretically, what he told you would be correct. In theory, the def techs are "full-range" but in practice they're not, they merely have active woofers (they're not really "subwoofers" in terms of extension, linearity, or dynamic range) that pale in comparison to your highly capable subs. So, in practice you should set the speakers to small and implement bass management.

That makes for a gain matching mess, as you not only have to dial in your sub's gain level, but also the gain level of the powered woofers on the def techs, but that's not an insurmountable hurdle. I would address the speaker's gain first (Omnimic, REW, or even just an spl meter can assist with this, but don't sweat it too much if you have to use your ears and Victor Wooten tracks), and only after you do that, then work on integrating the subs (for which you can run Audyssey or whatever your AVR offers). Route lfe to the subs, not the def techs.
So running them full range would create an uncontrollable output of bass? Anyways ? Why does def tech call them subs?
I spoke with def customer service today. I have 2 powered towers and the powered center. they told me if I connect just using speaker wire set the 3 speakers to large in the receiver settings. and don't turn the gain knob on each speaker past 12 o'clock. does this sound right to you guys?
which model?
 
isolar8001

isolar8001

Audioholic Field Marshall
So running them full range would create an uncontrollable output of bass? Anyways ? Why does def tech call them subs?

which model?
10,000 posts between here and AVS, and you have never heard of the issues with Def Tech before ?
ski2xblack just described the big one.

Best thing to do with Def Techs if you want to add real subs is to get rid of them.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I used to own the DT flagships BP7000 and BP7001. The bass from these 4 speakers at once (one in each corner) was tremendous - I could feel and hear the walls in my previous house (3000 SF) shake like an earthquake, which was a lot of fun. Even from 25 FT away.

But I realized that putting amps inside any speaker or sub was a bad idea to me. So that’s the main reason I sold the DT and would never buy any speaker or subwoofer with built-in amp.

But when own the DT, I always set them to LFE and set them to small so that I could get sub in each of the 4 corners.
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
But I realized that putting amps inside any speaker or sub was a bad idea to me. So that’s the main reason I sold the DT and would never buy any speaker or subwoofer with built-in amp.
So you don't sell to the pro audio market that has for decades been using active speakers?
 

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