Crown XLS 2502 for Buttkicker LFE ?

[rana_kirti]

Planning to setup Tactile for Home Theater.

Is the Crown XLS 2502 a good Amp for Buttkicker LFE ?

XLS2502 Manual says :

"The PureBand Crossover System provides a variable state Linkwitz-Riley 24dB/octave filter allowing you to choose a point between 30Hz and 3kHz on standard 1/12th octave centers. Three filter types are available: Low Pass, High Pass and Band Pass"

LFE Manual says :

"Frequency Response: 5 – 200 Hz"

So does this mean that the XLS2502 will not be able to utilize the ButtKicker LFE abilities below 30Hz ?

Thanks.

 

[everettT]

Planning to setup Tactile for Home Theater.

Is the Crown XLS 2502 a good Amp for Buttkicker LFE ?

XLS2502 Manual says :

"The PureBand Crossover System provides a variable state Linkwitz-Riley 24dB/octave filter allowing you to choose a point between 30Hz and 3kHz on standard 1/12th octave centers. Three filter types are available: Low Pass, High Pass and Band Pass"

LFE Manual says :

"Frequency Response: 5 – 200 Hz"

So does this mean that the XLS2502 will not be able to utilize the ButtKicker LFE abilities below 30Hz ?

Thanks.

If you don't apply filters it runs full range.

 

[dlaloum]

And the Crown specs are talking about setting crossover points - the central turnover point of the crossover...

So you can set the crossover to be a low pass filter at 30Hz - ie: to attenuate the frequencies ABOVE 30Hz - leaving the frequencies below intact., or it can be set as a 30Hz high pass filter with the opposite effect

It doesn't state that 30hz is a frequency limit!

 

[Arthur_S]

I want to buy the Crown XLS 1502 for Buttkicker Gamer Pro, for sim racing, flight simulators, PC - Simhub
The default Buttkicker Gamer Pro amp is getting pretty hot ( and clipping ) if I increase the volume, up to 24 %
Can anyone please, help me ? I don't know much about that kind of stuff.
Any advices are welcome, thank you

 

[lovinthehd]

I want to buy the Crown XLS 1502 for Buttkicker Gamer Pro, for sim racing, flight simulators, PC - Simhub
The default Buttkicker Gamer Pro amp is getting pretty hot ( and clipping ) if I increase the volume, up to 24 %
Can anyone please, help me ? I don't know much about that kind of stuff.
Any advices are welcome, thank you

What are the specs of the Buttkicker Gamer Pro amp? Volume in terms of a percentage compared among different seteups doesn't mean much particularly.

 

[Arthur_S]

The ButtKicker Gamer PRO power amplifier (BKA-PRO) is a 150-watt RMS digital amplifier designed for sim racing and gaming, featuring a 10-300Hz frequency response and a 2-ohm impedance. It includes a wireless remote, digital volume display, and operates on universal power (100V - 240V).

• Power Output: 150 Watts RMS @ 2 ohms
• Frequency Response: 10 - 300 Hz
• Input Voltage: 100V - 240V Universal
• Dimensions: 9.4" L x 7.6" W x 2.8" H (approx. 23.9 x 19.3 x 7.1 cm)
• Weight: 3.7 lbs (approx. 1.7 kg)
• Features: Digital volume display, wireless remote control, 2-ohm nominal impedance

Thank you

LE : I just googled " crown xls 1502 for buttkicker gamer pro " and the A.i. answer is :

The Crown XLS 1502 is an excellent, high-efficiency Class-D amplifier for the Buttkicker Gamer Pro, providing 525W per channel at 4Ω or 1,550W bridged at 4Ω (the Gamer Pro is typically 4Ω). Its built-in DSP (Low Pass Filter) allows precise tuning of haptic effects, making it a powerful upgrade over the stock amp.


Key Considerations for this Pairing:

• Power: The Gamer Pro can handle high wattage, and the XLS 1502 offers plenty of headroom, allowing for strong, clean, and fast-acting haptic feedback.
• Wiring: Run the amplifier in Bridge Mono mode to deliver 1,550W @ 4Ω (ensure you follow the bridge wiring diagram on the back of the amp).
• Connection: Use the XLR or RCA inputs from your PC/soundcard and connect the ButtKicker to the Speakon or binding post outputs.
• Settings: Use the internal crossover on the XLS 1502 to set a low-pass filter around 80Hz-100Hz to ensure the transducer only receives low-frequency haptic signals.
• Protection: The peakx™ limiters on the Crown should be enabled to prevent damaging the transducer, though the Gamer Pro is rugged.

I don't know how much I should trust the Google Ai, that's why I asked on a forum.

 

[lovinthehd]

The ButtKicker Gamer PRO power amplifier (BKA-PRO) is a 150-watt RMS digital amplifier designed for sim racing and gaming, featuring a 10-300Hz frequency response and a 2-ohm impedance. It includes a wireless remote, digital volume display, and operates on universal power (100V - 240V).

• Power Output: 150 Watts RMS @ 2 ohms
• Frequency Response: 10 - 300 Hz
• Input Voltage: 100V - 240V Universal
• Dimensions: 9.4" L x 7.6" W x 2.8" H (approx. 23.9 x 19.3 x 7.1 cm)
• Weight: 3.7 lbs (approx. 1.7 kg)
• Features: Digital volume display, wireless remote control, 2-ohm nominal impedance

Thank you

Not a lot of power compared to what the 2502 can offer at that impedance (spec is 1200w for one of two channels into 2ohm, even the Crown 1002 at 550w is better). Whether the transducer can use more power might be the better question.

 

[Arthur_S]

So, 2502 would be better than 1502 ?

 

[Arthur_S]

Not a lot of power compared to what the 2502 can offer at that impedance (spec is 1200w for one of two channels into 2ohm, even the Crown 1002 at 550w is better). Whether the transducer can use more power might be the better question.

Power Handling: 75 watt min. / 250 watt max.

 

[lovinthehd]

Power Handling: 75 watt min. / 250 watt max.

So, 2502 would be better than 1502 ?

Seems any of the Crown amps can put you in the area where you can self-inflict damage easier. Doesn't seem the 2502 gives you any particular advantage over the 1502 due the basic limitations. FWIW I own several XLS1500s and a 2502, used mostly for subs but also a tactile transducer (I use a Clark Synthesis model myself on a 1500)

 

[Arthur_S]

So, you don't recommend any of the Crown XLS?
Is not possible to avoid damaging the drive, with the Peakx limiter, on the Crown?
What else could I get, if Crown XLS is out of the question?
Thank you for your help.
By the way, do you use the Clark Synthesis, for gaming?
Which model do you own?

 

[lovinthehd]

So, you don't recommend any of the Crown XLS?
Is not possible to avoid damaging the drive, with the Peakx limiter, on the Crown?
What else could I get, if Crown XLS is out of the question?No
Thank you for your help.
By the way, do you use the Clark Synthesis, for gaming?
Which model do you own?

No, am saying there are a variety of amps that can be used, but the 2502 may be more than needed. If determined you can always damage something even with helpful clipping features like the Crown has.. I use a Clark TST209

 

[Arthur_S]

I know, 2502 is more powerfull that 1502, but shouldn't XLS 1502 be enough for BK Gamer Pro ?

 

[lovinthehd]

I know, 2502 is more powerfull that 1502, but shouldn't XLS 1502 be enough for BK Gamer Pro ?

It's just not a direct relationship to BK Gamer Pro.....but in your proposition the 1502 is more than enough it seems.

 

[Arthur_S]

Thank you
What about the Peakx setting, on the Crown? Does it help against damaging the drive?
How am I going to avoid, damaging the drive?
Keeping the volume at 50 - 60 % on the Crown?

 

[lovinthehd]

Thank you
What about the Peakx setting, on the Crown? Does it help against damaging the drive?
How am I going to avoid, damaging the drive?
Keeping the volume at 50 - 60 % on the Crown?

Use peak settings or not as you see fit but I just leave them on myself, and would be better protection than not. Not overdriving the system is one way to avoid damage....so check your max to the sub with the clipping indicators and keep it under that level generally....

 

[Arthur_S]

Okay, thank you so much.
I'll order the Crown XLS 1502, I hope I can increase a bit, the volum. Not much.
Right now I have 24 % on my default BKG Pro amp.
Just did some tests with volume level at 30 % and it feels amazing, but it starts clipping and the drive is getting pretty hot after a short period of time.
That's the main reason I want to get a better amplifier.
Someone wrote, on Reddit, IIRC, to lubricate a bit more than default, the BKG Pro, it helps.
What do you think?
I asked you yesterday, about your Clark Synthesis.
Do you use it for gaming ?
Thank you, again.

 

[lovinthehd]

Okay, thank you so much.
I'll order the Crown XLS 1502, I hope I can increase a bit, the volum. Not much.
Right now I have 24 % on my default BKG Pro amp.
Just did some tests with volume level at 30 % and it feels amazing, but it starts clipping and the drive is getting pretty hot after a short period of time.
That's the main reason I want to get a better amplifier.
Someone wrote, on Reddit, IIRC, to lubricate a bit more than default, the BKG Pro, it helps.
What do you think?
I asked you yesterday, about your Clark Synthesis.
Do you use it for gaming ?
Thank you, again.

Keep in mind to gain a mere 3dB spl it requires a doubling of amp power....and then there are the usual variations for frequency as well. Percentage is not generally a good way to determine volume or comparing such.

ps no, not a gamer, use it for general audio for music/movies....and the transducer in the couch is always on

 

[Arthur_S]

So, with the Crown XLS 1502 + BKG Pro , can I gain 3dB,without damaging / clipping / overheating the drive ?!

 

[lovinthehd]

So, with the Crown XLS 1502 + BKG Pro , can I gain 3dB,without damaging / clipping / overheating the drive ?!

Using both amps together would be a great way to damage everything.