Coronavirus

[rnatalli]

"It's the will of God and I can do nothing about it!"

The above is a paraphrase that pretty much describe a former neighbour that (a young woman with a child) refuses to vaccinate while still working with children. I've had this discussion with her at a number of occasions and it's nothing political about it. Just religion, the curse of mankind.

If I recall the Bible correctly, there's a passage about how God will only carry us so far and then it's up to us to complete a task. That can easily be interpreted as God gave us the ability to think intelligently and create a vaccine to defeat a deadly virus. Besides, the Pope himself is pro-vaccine and fairly certain your neighbor does not know better than the Pope.

 

[Jeepers]

Presently, the world's population is estimated to be 79 billion people. That becomes 0.4 to 4 billion deaths. And that's only if no more successful mutations occur.

I assume you meant 7.9 billion people.

 

[rnatalli]

Some good news:

Walgreens sees vaccinations surge in states that had lagged in shots

Walgreens said on Wednesday that it has seen an uptick in COVID-19 vaccinations among states that have been lagging behind in the vaccine rollout as cases surge due to the delta variant.

thehill.com

Why people in Alabama are changing their minds about the vaccine | CNN

CNN's Miguel Marquez looks at the rise in Covid-19 vaccinations in Alabama, despite the state being tied with Arkansas for the lowest vaccination rate.

www.cnn.com

 

[Trell]

If I recall the Bible correctly, there's a passage about how God will only carry us so far and then it's up to us to complete a task. That can easily be interpreted as God gave us the ability to think intelligently and create a vaccine to defeat a deadly virus. Besides, the Pope himself is pro-vaccine and fairly certain your neighbor does not know better than the Pope.

There is something in the Bible to justify just about anything, including atrocities, oppression, slavery and so on for centuries.

 

[cpp]

There is something in the Bible to justify just about anything, including atrocities, oppression, slavery and so on for centuries.

That's for sure and too many ways to interpret it. As in audio, you will get a lot of different opinions on how you read it.

 

[cpp]

Now in our state run by our Trumpet, our Gov made a statement just recently """
Ramping Up Campaign Against Covid Safety, DeSantis Now Opposes Hospitals Requiring Vaccines of Staff"". Spoken like a true politicain, he cares more about votes than anything else.

 

[Trell]

Now in our state run by our Trumpet, our Gov made a statement just recently """
Ramping Up Campaign Against Covid Safety, DeSantis Now Opposes Hospitals Requiring Vaccines of Staff"". Spoken like a true politicain Republican, he cares more about votes than anything else.

Fixed that for you. Here it's literally about life and death, and the party responsible for this should be called out as such.

 

[cpp]

Fixed that for you. Here it's literally about life and death, and the party responsible for this should be called out as such.

I'm just surprised that nobody of yet has taken his ass to court and let the State Supreme Court make a ruling on his dictatorship methods.

 

[Trell]

I'm just surprised that nobody of yet has taken his ass to court and let the State Supreme Court make a ruling on his dictatorship methods.

I've no opinion on the legality of the Republican DeSantis actions or inactions as such but I find some of them morally reprehensible.

 

[panteragstk]

I'm just surprised that nobody of yet has taken his ass to court and let the State Supreme Court make a ruling on his dictatorship methods.

As in TX, I'm sure a LOT of the population are just fine with his stupidity.

People really need to remember that if someone makes a medical decision based on their politics, they might be an idiot.

 

[mtrycrafts]

That's what all viruses do, mutate rapidly. SARS-CoV-2 is no different. But it can't mutate unless it's reproducing. This requires infecting more people. As more people get infected, more virus reproductions occur, and more mutations accumulate. This is why virologists, infectious disease physicians, and all scientists, have been screaming for people to roll up their sleeves and get the jab. The best way to stop this pandemic is to vaccinate at least 80 to 90% of all people on the planet.

The alternative is to wait until everyone on earth has been infected by the virus. This will take many years. An estimated 0.5% to 5% of the world's population could die. Presently, the world's population is estimated to be 79 billion people. That becomes 0.4 to 4 billion deaths. And that's only if no more successful mutations occur.

Yes, reproduce and mutate. Evolution. Viruses do it much faster.
I guess many just cannot understand and accept evolution.

 

[mtrycrafts]

... And that's only if no more successful mutations occur.

Good luck.

You can't stop evolution.

 

[Trell]

Yes, reproduce and mutate. Evolution. Viruses do it much faster.
I guess many just cannot understand and accept evolution.

Eh, the evolutionary pressure on genetics on humans does you work the way you think it does.

 

[mtrycrafts]

There is something in the Bible to justify just about anything, including atrocities, oppression, slavery and so on for centuries.

Well, some just read the parts they like.

 

[Swerd]

I assume you meant 7.9 billion people.

Yes, 7.9 billion is correct, not 79 billion. Thanks for pointing out what I misread. I'm only off by a factor of 10. But the percentages are the same.

My conclusions still mean as much even if they are 10-fold lower. 40 to 400 million deaths is still mind-boggling. This is an unacceptably high price when it can easily be avoided with vaccinations.

 

[mtrycrafts]

I've no opinion on the legality of the Republican DeSantis actions or inactions as such but I find some of them morally reprehensible.

Isn't the number one duty of a governor is to safety and protect his people? This is the opposite, dereliction of duty.

 

[jinjuku]

I had a ton of empathy for people

I've zero empathy and I want them to get great care that they have to pay 100% out of pocket for. I DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR STUPID PEOPLE.

 

[Mr._Clark]

I've no opinion on the legality of the Republican DeSantis actions or inactions as such but I find some of them morally reprehensible.

The various state laws banning mask mandates and vaccine mandates are rather odd legal ducks.

A judge just blocked a state ban on masks in Arkansas, but it's not at all clear what will happen going forward.

Arkansas judge blocks state from enforcing mask mandate ban

An Arkansas judge has temporarily blocked the state from enforcing a law that prevents schools and other governmental agencies from requiring masks.

apnews.com

Norwegian Cruise Lines is challenging the Florida "vaccine passport" ban in Florida. It appears to me that the cruise lines have a somewhat weaker position than the school district in the Arkansas case because the cruise lines can (at least in theory) choose not to do business in a state with a ban on vaccine requirements. Having said that, I really don't know which way this case will go.

Norwegian cruises challenges Florida passenger vaccine law

Norwegian Cruise Line is asking a federal judge to block a Florida law prohibiting cruise companies from demanding that passengers show written proof of coronavirus vaccination before they board a ship.

apnews.com

 

[jinjuku]

I think the Trump effect has made people more stupid these last five years. I love the uneducated!

I worked customer facing long enough that people have been more stupid for a lot longer than that. But you get a $5 bill involved and they all the sudden smarten up.

 

[Mikado463]

I've zero empathy and I want them to get great care that they have to pay 100% out of pocket for. I DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR STUPID PEOPLE.

I chuckled and agreed at the same time for look at what we've put in DC …...