Considering the purchase of an Home Audio EQ

TapeMaster

TapeMaster

Audioholic
Hi What should I get? looked at various ones from Realistic,Kenwood,Pioneer,Technics,SO FAR I'm liking the Pioneers!
 
jp_over

jp_over

Full Audioholic
TapeMaster - you are definitely old school my friend! :D I'm interested to see where this one goes.

What are you looking to accomplish with the EQ? Have you thought about a digital one?
 
TapeMaster

TapeMaster

Audioholic
No all analog plugged into the back of my Onkyo Integrated amp. Looking to monitor recordings with my Cassette Deck. How do I find out how many bands one is? I'm liking the Champagne Color on this one probbally 1970's.
 
TapeMaster

TapeMaster

Audioholic
No too Modern The one I want has more features. Don't understand the whole thing about equalizer in and out jacks on this one.
 
jp_over

jp_over

Full Audioholic
Not sure on which is better. I think the last time I've seen one is perhaps 15 years ago.

If I were looking for something like this, I'd start by scanning audiogon & ebay.
 
TapeMaster

TapeMaster

Audioholic
Yes I will be purchasing from ebay! Ok so how do I hook this up My Integrated amop has Multiple Video Inputs,two Tape,CD,Phono?
 
jp_over

jp_over

Full Audioholic
Don't know what you have, but here's the connection scheme from what I recall (all should be RCA):

Tape out -> EQ in
EQ out -> Preamp / Receiver Tape in (CD, aux, whatever component you want really except for phono which I'm not familiar with)

I'm sure I'm forgetting something but can't remember what it is. :)
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
You need to be a little careful here!

I believe you need a tape monitor loop or the ability to run from pre-amp output to the EQ then either to an external amp or if your receiver has a power amp input (which I don't think many do).

Back in the day, almost all Receivers and Integrated Amps had Tape Monitor Loops which allowed you to listen to (and A-B) recordings from a three head tape deck as they were being made.
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
Don't know what you have, but here's the connection scheme from what I recall (all should be RCA):

Tape out -> EQ in
EQ out -> Preamp / Receiver Tape in (CD, aux, whatever component you want really except for phono which I'm not familiar with)

I'm sure I'm forgetting something but can't remember what it is. :)
The problem with this is selecting your input at the receiver.
Say your EQ us hooked to Tape Out and Aux1 Input; and the CD player is hooked to CD input.
You want to listen to a CD with EQ.
So, if you select CD as the input, you get the CD player w/o EQ.
If you select Aux1 as the input, you get nothing because the receiver is no longer receiving the signal from the CD player.

I think I have this straight, I has been a while...:confused:
 
TapeMaster

TapeMaster

Audioholic
Can I monitor recordings with 2 Head Cassette Decks? that is all I have 1 Onkyo,2 Kenwoods.
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
Can I monitor recordings with 2 Head Cassette Decks? that is all I have 1 Onkyo,2 Kenwoods.
No a two head machine uses an erase head and a combination record/playback head. Thus, when you are recording, the combination head is on record mode.
With a three head machine, you have the erase head followed by the record head followed by the playback head. Thus, you can be using the record head to "lay down" the track with the playback head right behind it to "pick up" the track and hear it.
Obviously, this is a critical feature in pro venues where it is crucial to verify recording quality in "real time" (well, close enough).
If you engage the tape monitor on a two head machine, you hear the same signal being fed to the recorder. On a three head machine, you are listening to the tape.
 
H

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Usually, the Tape 1 jacks are used for some kind of processor- Rec Our goes to the EQ's Input jacks and from the EQ's Output jacks to the Tape In jacks. If you were to connect the EQ's output to the power amp input, you wouldn't be able to control the volume because the Rec Out level is fixed.

Rat Shack never made (or had made for them) anything that was noteworthy. If you want a decent EQ from the '70s or '80s, look at the Pioneer 12 band models, Soundcraftsman, SAE or something like them. Audio Control came into the picture in the '80s, so don't eliminate them as a possibility. Most of them weren't particularly noise-free, so it's important to keep the level controls close to the unity gain area (+/- 0dB). Wide variations won't produce good sound and generally cause a lot of phase shift in these pieces, so if you want better sound rather than just buying a lot of older equipment, get an active equalizer. You would press/flip the Tape Monitor switch and leave it there when the EDQ is connected, then use the Tape Monitor switch on the EQ, with the tape deck connected to the jacks on the EQ instead of the ones on the integrated amp. Use the In/Out switch to use/bypass the EQ.
 
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TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Yes I will be purchasing from ebay! Ok so how do I hook this up My Integrated amop has Multiple Video Inputs,two Tape,CD,Phono?
To get the best out of it you need an integrated amp with a tape monitor loop, or a preamp/amp.

A tape monitor loop is best. For tape applications an equalizer is very useful.

I have a 10 band ADC equalizer I bought in the early eighties, I don't have any use for. You are welcome to it, just pay shipping.

The biggest problem with older equalizers, is that the slider controls get noisy.

I can try and clean this one up for you, if you want it. It has not been used for some time. I think I might be able to dig out the manual, I'm pretty sure I have it somewhere.

You need a three head machine to off tape monitor.

You can see it here. It is the one above the Revox A 700 with the chrome handles.

 
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