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Seriously, I have no life.
Telling me murder isn't good I think I know that. Asking empathy from people when said deny which leads to death isn't realistic.
Did Thompson actually tell anyone to deny coverage? Do we know any details of the policies? No, we don't. I'm not defending anyone, but when so much isn't known, it's hard to justify murder, even when it was the CEO of an insurer and I'm no fan of the insurance industry.
 
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Touchingly he cares about CEOs but fat/poor people, not so much. :rolleyes:
You really get me.o_O

Let me guess- you think it's society's fault that morbidly obese and poor people are that way, right?
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
Did Thompson actually tell anyone to deny coverage? Do we know any details of the policies? No, we don't. I'm not defending anyone, but when so much isn't known, it's hard to justify murder, even when it was the CEO of an insurer and I'm no fan of the insurance industry.
I don't think you even know what you're saying. Thompson was the CEO. The denials start at the top LOL.
 
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I don't think you even know what you're saying. Thompson was the CEO. The denials start at the top LOL.
Of course you don't think I know what I'm saying- you constantly infer what's not there and it has been a pattern in your replies.

And you know their policies? I know he was CEO, but you seem to think they know all of the minute details of the operation. They work with the board and other managers, including the underwriting department. Do you really think he's involved with every case that's denied or all of the defined denials?

OK, let's assume you do know how UH was operated. Do you know if he was or wasn't trying to change the system of denials?

Let's stop this BS- find someone else to bother.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
Of course you don't think I know what I'm saying- you constantly infer what's not there and it has been a pattern in your replies.

And you know their policies? I know he was CEO, but you seem to think they know all of the minute details of the operation. They work with the board and other managers, including the underwriting department. Do you really think he's involved with every case that's denied or all of the defined denials?

OK, let's assume you do know how UH was operated. Do you know if he was or wasn't trying to change the system of denials?

Let's stop this BS- find someone else to bother.
He makes $10 million a year, and United has the highest denial rate of any Corp LOL. You earlier: you must live under a rock if you think for-profit is the best way.
 
Tankini

Tankini

Audioholic Chief
He makes $10 million a year, and United has the highest denial rate of any Corp LOL. You earlier: you must live under a rock if you think for-profit is the best way.
Wait a minute, he makes? He was murdered right? Use to make 10 million a year. Soooo, who got his 10 million yearly salary? Hope it was put to good use approving medical claims. Not that getting murdered doesn't count.

That would be like, asking someone to go do a dirty deed. They do it, so who takes revenge next and calls it justifiable by example? or is vengeance acceptable. Isn't murder/vengeance two of the same thing? In-cold blood, murder or vengeance = Cold Blooded Murder of innocence.
 
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lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
Did Thompson actually tell anyone to deny coverage? Do we know any details of the policies? No, we don't. I'm not defending anyone, but when so much isn't known, it's hard to justify murder, even when it was the CEO of an insurer and I'm no fan of the insurance industry.
I actually worked in benefits tech and he actively opposed software that would help with claim accuracy. FWIW many of his competitors didn't. Also he ruined a key tech company that failed early this year and caused major disruptions.
 
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I actually worked in benefits tech and he actively opposed software that would help with claim accuracy. FWIW many of his competitors didn't. Also he ruined a key tech company that failed early this year and caused major disruptions.
Finally, someone who's familiar with the guy. Thanks.

Still didn't need to be assassinated- seems like he was a dik, but if he had an MBA, that's what they do.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
He makes $10 million a year, and United has the highest denial rate of any Corp LOL. You earlier: you must live under a rock if you think for-profit is the best way.
Again, I didn't say that for profit is the best way. If I did, copy and paste it.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
Finally, someone who's familiar with the guy. Thanks.

Still didn't need to be assassinated- seems like he was a dik, but if he had an MBA, that's what they do.
Doesn't take much to piece together. $10 million salary, highest denial rate, fake AI..... pretty simple to glean really.
 
mtrycrafts

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Seriously, I have no life.
Finally, someone who's familiar with the guy. Thanks.

Still didn't need to be assassinated- seems like he was a dik, but if he had an MBA, that's what they do.
You mean that curriculum removes your humanity totally?
 
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trochetier

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First of all, CEOs of giant corporations and companies are rarely involved in day to day operations and information is usually filtered by the time it reaches them but here's a "What if?" for ya- what if he actually wanted to change the way United Healthcare operated? Everyone is assuming he was a complete A-hole greedy MFer and wanted nothing more than to see people suffer but what if he was actually a decent person? Mangione and everyone else seems to be assuming that was the case.

I doubt Thompson's family is thinking "He was a great husband and father, but he sure was a POS at the office".

It doesn't matter what he did in his professional life, it's NOT OK to sneak up and shoot him in the back, or anywhere else. The fact that Mangione didn't have the balls to face Thompson says a lot about Mangione- chicken poop. Shkreli or the Sackler family- I might give someone a pass for them. Putin, definitely but his replacement needs to be vetted before.
The CEO is the ultimate boss for day to day running of the company the BUCK Stops with him. Anything else is a cop out. CEO also makes and or blesses all the policies of the company specially when it impacts share prices.

It is only in the Westerns (movies) someone faces the opponent - in real life it is not. Do snipers face their opponent? Drones?
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
The CEO is the ultimate boss for day to day running of the company the BUCK Stops with him. Anything else is a cop out. CEO also makes and or blesses all the policies of the company specially when it impacts share prices.

It is only in the Westerns (movies) someone faces the opponent - in real life it is not. Do snipers face their opponent? Drones?
How would a sniper be sure of who they're shooting if they can't see the face? Read about shootings in the good ol' US of A- most are caused by arguments between people who know each other.

The buck SHOULD stop with the CEO, but it's often some underling who is thrown under the bus when things go off the rails in the largest corporations but if you remember the heavy excavation manufacturer Harnischfeger, it's an example of a corporation whose CEO grenaded it during his mid-life crisis. He lied on his resume and said he had been a fighter pilot in Vietnam. Now, it's owned by Komatsu. The local FBI headquarters is in the last Harnischfeger HQ and he guided the company into bankruptcy. It's not the only one that went out badly, either.

I have no delusions about corporations being 'on top of things' in all cases- look at the mergers and acquisitions of failing companies and if someone were to dig deep, they would see all kinds of corporate greed leading to the death of the companies.
 
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