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Krobar

Enthusiast
Have you guys seen any new modules for the Onkyo, Integra and Integra Research Modular Recievers/Processors?
 
Jake said:
Hello Gene. I hope that you will review the new black screen technology SCREEN INNOVATIONS " MIRAGE SCREEN" specifically. I am interested in just how great this technology really is in bringing front projection out of completely dark rooms.
Summary: kicks butt - not cheap. Click here for pics and details.

It is uncertain how this screen will perform (contrast and black levels) in light-controlled situations, so we're hoping to get a unit in for review shortly after they start shipping.
 
brian32672

brian32672

Banned
Clint DeBoer said:
Summary: kicks butt - not cheap. Click here for pics and details.

It is uncertain how this screen will perform (contrast and black levels) in light-controlled situations, so we're hoping to get a unit in for review shortly after they start shipping.
Now, that is exactly what I wanted to see. Now, I can tell BMXtrix, that ambient light won't kill contrast (J/K BMX).

EDIT:: Granted this technology was out 2-3 years ago from Sony... (Just not produced)
Also, I could not see the average HT user specially in light controlled situations get a screen of one of these over the 0.8 gain. Since it will be 10x higher contrast than a normal screen, and specially because of the 2x brighter....

Will have to see Clint, when you get one in for sample like you said in a light controlled room. I am thinking projector manufactures will need 2 economy modes....

And last, damn it--- It does not come in a 120" for me.. Sadly only up to 100"
 
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hopjohn

Full Audioholic
I appreciate all the hard work you guys are doing for us there in Indy. I'm enjoying the coverage immensely.

I really like the look of the new Energy Con. Refs., beautiful speakers. Did you have a chance to hear them, is a review a possibility?

I'm also very excited about the new features offered on many of the new receivers. The Yamaha 2600, Samsung, and Pioneer 72 & 74 all look to be making some serious strides.

Keep up the good work.

P.S. Tell Tom to take an empty bottle (apple juice label prefered ) and a couple of wall screens with him next year.
 
brian32672

brian32672

Banned
Clint DeBoer said:
120" in 16:9
Is that a hint...

because you know I saw this
"Screen sizes from 60" - 100" (4:3) or 60" - 120" (16:9) in 1" increments"
 
majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
brian32672 said:
Is that a hint...

because you know I saw this
"Screen sizes from 60" - 100" (4:3) or 60" - 120" (16:9) in 1" increments"

YOU WILL CONVERT!!!!
We will turn you to "The Dark Side"!

You cannot hold out from the evil 16:9. :eek:
 
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Spero D.

Audiophyte
Just read about the Denon AVR-5805 & 4806 firmware updates at a price of $250 coming October 1st. What about the long awaited firmware update for the 5805 to fix the Audyssey issue that has been ongoing forever? The beta one didn't work. Why don't they priortise that to come on October 1st, and I hope without an additional charge. Also the previously mentioned video scaling to HDMI for the 5805? The same for the AVR-4806 in regards to the Audyssey issue.

Can you please ask Denon about this?
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
What about the long awaited firmware update for the 5805 to fix the Audyssey issue that has been ongoing forever?
Denon already has an Audyssey fix. The problem is it didnt upload correctly on my test unit. I am having Denon ship me a new 5805 with it uploaded but unfortunately I will be relocating next month and won't have our primary test lab built until late November. In all likelyhood we wont be able to verify its effectiveness until December. However, if Denon sends Clint a review sample of a AVR-4806 before then, you can be sure he will also put it through its paces.
 
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Spero D.

Audiophyte
Gene- Thanks for the reply. But I don't believe it is yet available on their site? Is this what caused this problem-

the Audyssey results are less than flattering.
Someone else found that after the update it didn't fix the problem for them either-

Well guys, my Denon 5805 journey has officially ended. My Denon is up for sale. I finally got around to checking to see if the new firmware was working. I used my DD18 OSD to check the the Audyssey curve before and after. I was suprised to find the the curve was smoother w/ Audyssey OFF . By turning the EQ on the low end response was much worse. The difference beteen the two was not small. Combine this w/ the fact that Audyssey is cranking my center channel treble levels resulting in a bright sound and I have no choice but to move on.
Guess we have to wait until you get your new unit for a definitive answer.

Also could you please find out about the AVR-5805 previously mentioned upconversion to HDMI to please?

Lastly the bottom links for the reports on the front of the site all point to a 2004 Cedia thread :)

Keep up the good work guys.
 
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Tom Andry

Tom Andry

Speaker of the House
Spero D. said:
Why don't they priortise that to come on October 1st, and I hope without an additional charge.
As Gene said, the Audyssey fix is already available, but the firmware update will also include the Audyssey update for those that haven't gotten it yet.
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
Combine this w/ the fact that Audyssey is cranking my center channel treble levels resulting in a bright sound and I have no choice but to move on.
Kinda of silly to sell this unit b/c of one feature not working as expected. As I mentioned before to someone using the 5805 with a Velodyne DD18 sub, the Velodyne Software will likely yield much better results than Audyssey for bass correction. The receiver is still killer regardless. I will get to the bottom of this, even if it kills me :eek:

I will find out about HDMI thing next time I speak with Denon.
 
Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
IS there any specs on that velodyne inwall sub?

Wouldn't The harsh corners on the cone cause some distortion?

sheep
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
Sheep I wondered that myself but I believe the active Servo must help that out to some extent. Also, since its oval shaped, it doesn't have corners like a square woofer, so it shouldn't suffer those effect as much.

Don't forget anytime you put speakers in a wall, there are always compromises to some degree. But if it comes between inwalls or no sound in a particular install, I choose the former, especially if it pleases the wife :)
 
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Jake

Enthusiast
Mirage by SCREEN INNOVATIONS

I saw the brief statement concerning the MIRAGE. How was it in terms of Image quality in high ambient ligt conditions?

Jake :cool:
 
C

Cygnus

Senior Audioholic
Have you heard anything about Krell's "HEAT"? (High end Audio Theatre)?
 
M

mk7se

Enthusiast
Gene, or anybody. Did you see if Pioneer showed any other new dvd players other than the 79?
 
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