Car totaled, any dealers here?

[Cos]

I'm very much over 'driver dynamics'. It's why Infiniti is lower on my list. I would consider a QX80 but they are a bit too large I think but I believe they are very bang for the buck used.

I would remove infiniti off your list, I had a G37X Sedan granted it was 2012, but they are nowhere in the same league as BMW, Lexus, or Audi. I have also owned an Acura 09 MDX. The finally brought the tech current now and I would consider them as well. Plus..It's a Honda lol

 

[TankTop5]

If you’re looking for an SUV the GX460 is incredibly tough to beat and will last hundreds of thousands of miles. Furthermore it’ll go places off road you’d be terrified to take it.

Look for a Lexus with the Mark Levinson sound system then add a JL Audio 8” sub as the system is tuned for grandma with no bass. The finger trackpad or joystick seems annoying at first but you get used to it in a couple days. Still wish they had a touchscreen but that’s my only complaint.

 

[jinjuku]

If you’re looking for an SUV the GX460 is incredibly tough to beat and will last hundreds of thousands of miles. Furthermore it’ll go places off road you’d be terrified to take it.

Look for a Lexus with the Mark Levinson sound system then add a JL Audio 8” sub as the system is tuned for grandma with no bass. The finger trackpad or joystick seems annoying at first but you get used to it in a couple days. Still wish they had a touchscreen but that’s my only complaint.

Lol. I guess I am looking at grandpa car's. Just saw a 2016 LS460 with 70K miles for $26.6.

Any tips for negotiating or is the current market a sellers market? You do any pro-bono buyer representation

 

[j_garcia]

It is a bit of a sellers market right now with the tariffs happening, but I am not sure that applies to a car from a dealer. I just looked up my STI and it went up a few thousand from about 6 months ago.

 

[Teetertotter?]

Myself, I'd be looking for an ACURA.

 

[jinjuku]

Just put a deposit down, PPI contingent, on a 2012 LS 460L with 106K miles. $13.9k. I'll let you know all how it goes. The interior looks showroom new and it's a lot less than $25K...

 

[TankTop5]

Just put a deposit down, PPI contingent, on a 2012 LS 460L with 106K miles. $13.9k. I'll let you know all how it goes. The interior looks showroom new and it's a lot less than $25K...

I was about to reply to your previous post when I saw this one. Honestly most dealers don’t negotiate much anymore on used as their pricing is already “somewhat aggressive”… just how the market is now.

the 2012 LS460 with 106k miles for $12k is the best deal o. The market and I would buy that car all day everyday, twice if I was in the market. I’m not even joking a little. The 2012 has a timing chain and not a timing belt, odds are if you’re in your 70’s the car will outlive you. Also be very careful, 120 feels like 55.

If you haven’t already bought that car do it yesterday… for $12k you can also get a 5 year old Altima, kinda the same as buying a soundbar.

 

[TankTop5]

I was about to reply to your previous post when I saw this one. Honestly most dealers don’t negotiate much anymore on used as their pricing is already “somewhat aggressive”… just how the market is now.

the 2012 LS460 with 106k miles for $12k is the best deal o. The market and I would buy that car all day everyday, twice if I was in the market. I’m not even joking a little. The 2012 has a timing chain and not a timing belt, odds are if you’re in your 70’s the car will outlive you. Also be very careful, 120 feels like 55.

If you haven’t already bought that car do it yesterday… for $12k you can also get a 5 year old Altima, kinda the same as buying a soundbar.

Honestly can buy the LS460 and a gen 3 4Runner both for $25k and solve all your problems for the rest of your life. Add a JL audio sub ($1300 installed ) and you’ll never leave your car.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Just put a deposit down, PPI contingent, on a 2012 LS 460L with 106K miles. $13.9k. I'll let you know all how it goes. The interior looks showroom new and it's a lot less than $25K...

Likely have few if any problems with it since it's a Lexus.

 

[TankTop5]

I ran this sub in my ES350 with the factory Mark Levinson and it was beyond fantastic. My teenage daughter still tells me she misses that car.

Should measure space first but it fit perfectly in the trunk between the wheel wells and barely took up any space.

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-qO7BJFg50B6/p_13628LW3V3/JL-Audio-CP208LG-W3v3.html?XVINQ=GZ0&XVVer=ONK&awcr=628324134386&awdv=m&awnw=g&awug=9199246&awkw=pla-424693996961&awmt=&awat=pla&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=18589654026&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpf7CBhCfARIsANIETVpgbQRhhJayoGnJONyvZCuPP2-xjJFGx7rnPNsvK10eZm9DFjWY46MaArWNEALw_wcB

 

[jinjuku]

The low profile JL Audio 8" sub is $199. I'd have to drill new holes in the rear deck mounting ring. I think it would also require a line output converter and amp. So I'd need to home run power line from the engine bay.

The issue with pulling from a cigarette lighter is they are fused ~150 watts. Would probably be ok doing that and would go that route first and see how it goes.

The most I've done on car audio is simply head unit swap's. With those I just use heat shrink and I have a butane soldering iron and a trim install kit for the dash components. Haven't gotten into running stuff from the engine bay on back to the trunk.

PPI is next Thursday. Crossing fingers there isn't anything major. It may be a Lexus but it's still 2012.

 

[TankTop5]

The low profile JL Audio 8" sub is $199. I'd have to drill new holes in the rear deck mounting ring. I think it would also require a line output converter and amp. So I'd need to home run power line from the engine bay.

The issue with pulling from a cigarette lighter is they are fused ~150 watts. Would probably be ok doing that and would go that route first and see how it goes.

The most I've done on car audio is simply head unit swap's. With those I just use heat shrink and I have a butane soldering iron and a trim install kit for the dash components. Haven't gotten into running stuff from the engine bay on back to the trunk.

PPI is next Thursday. Crossing fingers there isn't anything major. It may be a Lexus but it's still 2012.

The sub I referenced has a built in amp. I had mine professionally installed for about $500 and that included a remote gain mounted inconspicuously under the dash.

Oops, that one doesn’t have the built in amp but there’s another model that does

 

[jinjuku]

The sub I referenced has a built in amp. I had mine professionally installed for about $500 and that included a remote gain mounted inconspicuously under the dash.

Oops, that one doesn’t have the built in amp but there’s another model that does

I was talking about replacing the factory with something better in the original spot in the rear deck so it's not the put something additional in the trunk.

 

[jinjuku]

Funny thing about used luxury vehicles is the higher you go in the lineup the faster they depreciate which is great when buying used, not so much for the first owner.

Just watched a Throttle House video on YouTube where they compared a 2009 LS 460 to a 2021, LS500. Blindfolded one of the reviewers and drove them in the back. Now they could tell which was the 21 versus the 2009 but the difference was marginal and the cost difference is 14 times less expensive.

 

[TankTop5]

Just watched a Throttle House video on YouTube where they compared a 2009 LS 460 to a 2021, LS500. Blindfolded one of the reviewers and drove them in the back. Now they could tell which was the 21 versus the 2009 but the difference was marginal and the cost difference is 14 times less expensive.

Compare any of the top luxury brands, Lexus LS, BMW 7XX or Mercedes S class and they all completely tank in resale value. My dad bought a GL 550 new and did every single recommend service at Mercedes, at 200k they offered him $4k trade so he decided to keep driving it. Shortly after the engine blew, replacement cost is about double what you paid for your LS. Moral of the story, buy the Lexus.

 

[jinjuku]

I did briefly look at the Lexus LS600 h But that was simply going to be over the top for a car I'm not riding in the back of.

The only potential issue is if the Mark Levinson head unit konks out because its not as simple as going to Crutchfield and finding a drop in head unit.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Glad to hear you are OK.

Lexus / Toyota are no longer #1 in reliability. Subaru has displaced them. That said, our Lexus has been the most problem free car I have ever owned. It is now 15 years old and has held up extremely well; no rattles/squeaks, no worn out hardware and still super quiet.

https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2025-us-vehicle-dependability-study-vds

According to JD Powers 2025, Lexus is still #`1.

Toyota is #4.

Subaru is #17 on JD Powers 2025.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I also always buy Lexus since I think they have always been #1 in JD Powers Dependability since inception.

I currently drive a Lexus LX570. My next vehicle would also be a Lexus LX.

One time I search for "the most reliable vehicle in the world". I conclude it was the Toyota Landcruiser/Lexus LX. I think the average odometer was 500K+ miles.

 

[Matt34]

I really miss our GX470, such a solid vehicle for being nearly 20 years old.

 

[j_garcia]

https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2025-us-vehicle-dependability-study-vds

According to JD Powers 2025, Lexus is still #`1.

Toyota is #4.

Subaru is #17 on JD Powers 2025.

Toyota no longer most reliable brand, says Consumer Reports

Subaru climbs to the top for the first time, while American brands rank no better than average.

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