Can't Decide on Home Theater Setup...

[njedpx3]

SVS 12" sub and the rest NHT = excellent system

Wow most of what I had heard previously leaned towards a bigger center channel. So you recommend the NHT system...I definetly trust your judgement over mine...only downside is 7.25" deep NHT speakers ...vs Def Tech 800s which are only 5". Also one of you guys recommended SVS 12" sub...I wanted to get the entire SVS speaker pack...I beliebe SBS 01...? but decided the fronts and rears were TOO big. Almost 9" deep I believe. So how would a SVS 12" compare against a NHT 12" Sub...?

You get SVS subs directly from SVS ..excellent customer support.

Call and ask SVS, sometimes you can get a B-stock for less. B-stock means a slight cosmetic flaw, but still perfect audio.

Remember the sub doesn't have to match the rest of your speakers (whole different frequnecy range) it will go with whatever matched speakers you select. If you like NHT ( AcuDefTechguy recommends and his recommendations are always excellent ) get all NHT except for the sub, absolutely get the 12" SVS sub.

Good Luck!

Forest Man

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Ok so I would get a 12" SVS sub from SVS directly I guess? No place else to get them cheaper? ...and the NHT speakers...but...question...the Def Tec 800are 5 dollars cheaper than the NHT speakers. When you said it was a value did you mean that for the same price the NHT are a better speaker than the Def Tec...like you have probably noticed I would like as little protrusion into the room as possible without sacrificing audio quality so...could you give me a little better comparison if you can based on your experience with the NHT and if you have any with the Def Tecs?

I think the DefTech ProMonitor 800s also sound great. If size is a limitation, which it is for a lot of people, like my brother, then get the ProMonitor 800s.

About the price difference, notice that the NHTs are discounted at 35% OFF and the DefTechs are NOT discounted at all?

I was just saying that if those NHT AbsoluteZeros were at full price, I would get the DefTech ProMonitor 800s. I think the NHT AbsoluteZeros are only slightly better than the ProMonitor 800s. So at full price, I would not get the NHT.

But it seems like size is a huge factor here. Thus, the PM800s may be your best bet.

Is the size of the subwoofer also a limitation? The SVS-12s are 15” deep x 14" wide x 14 " high.

The DefTech SC-3 is 10" x 10" x 10".

DefTech ProSub 1000 is 18" H x 12" x 15".

 

[shadyJ]

I wouldn't get any of those subs. You will get a lot more bang for your buck in subwoofers from internet direct companies. Hsu, SVS, Outlaw Audio (they have a great sale going on right now!), Elemental Designs, Epik (they also have a fantastic sale going on right now), Rythmik, those are the subs you want to look at. With Hsu, SVS, and Elemental Designs, you can get serious discounts on speaker/subwoofer packages. I think you get a greater value on their speakers too, so better speakers, MUCH better sub, all for the same amount of money.

 

[kuko92]

Thanks on the SVS advice...again does anybody know about SVS Cylinder 12" vs SVS Box 12"?...also I posted some specs at the bottom of the second page of this thread...just want to know what would be better for the money...NHT Absolute Zeros...Def Tec Pro800s or the Aperion 4B or 5B

Def Tech Package would be $725 for 5 ProMonitor 800's(100hz-20Khz +-3 dB) and are only 5" deep.

NHT Package would be $750 for 5 Absolute Zero Speakers(71hz-20Khz not sure if its +-3dB...does anyone know so I can make an accurate comparison?) and would be deeper at 7.25". Also it says this speaker impedence is 6 ohms...Im pretty sure the other brands are 8 ohms...will it still work with the Denon 1610 Reciever??

Aperion 4B Package would be $520 for 5 4B Speakers(120hz-20Khz +-3dB) and are 5.5" deep. Pretty comparable to the Def Techs while saving me $200 dollars? or is there a downside besides the 120hz to 100hz bottom end advantage the Def Tecs have? There sensetivity is 84dB vs the Def Techs 89dB? what difference would that make? Def Tec Guy said don't worry but I tend to anyway

 

[kuko92]

Def Tec Guy if you could take a look at my post before this one...what do you think abouat the aperion 4bs? cant remember if it was you that recommended aperionaudio...but they seem comparable to the def tecs...and are $200 less for the whole package...what do you think? It says they are 6ohms though? Would that affect anything in connecting to a Denon 1610? As for the sub size isnt a problem...got as much room as needed to work with just want to take i consideration the wood floors...and again...if anyone has more info on the floor vs sub issue...it would help me out alot...as of now...im going with the SVS 12" sub...looks like a beast.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I see the NHT Absolute Zero on NHT.com has frequency response of 71hz-20Khz...is that "true"response as you said or is that wrong as well...just trying to compare Def Tech to NHT to Aperion...and the aperion says 120hz-20khz...the SVS Sats are 68hz-20Khz +-3dB...but they are too deep...9 and a half inches...don't think I want to do that.

The Aperion specs are like 2 - 7 Hz off when compared to 3rd party.

The NHT specs are like 7 - 8 Hz off right when compared to 3rd party.

SVS specs are like 8 - 14 Hz off compared to 3rd party.

DefTech specs (+/-3dB specs, not the OVERALL specs listed) are like 0 - 13 Hz off.

So, no, none of those listed will be exactly the same reponse measured by an independent 3rd party lab.

 

[kuko92]

Ok so you can't compare to perfection because each company has different standards of testing their systems...I can imagine its usually if not always to their advantage as a selling point. So I am wondering about the difference between the NHTs and the Aperions...the NHTs MSRP being $220 discounted to $150 on amazon...and the aperions being $130..period..on aperionaudio.com. I am guessing this means the NHT's will be better period...and I apologize on a previous post I think I said the aperiod 5 speaker package would be 500 plus dollars when it would actually be $650. As of now I think I'm going with the NHT...I emailed them and they said that the frequency response I mentioned earlier is the actual response not overall so...that would give them about a 40hz bottom end advantage over the aperions which I can't ignore. If anyone has anything that I might have overlooked PLEASE tell me...otherwise this is my setup...Denon AVR1610 Reciever paired with the NHT absolute Zeros...and an SVS 12" Cylinder sub.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I used the NHT SuperZero (similar to AbsoluteZero) for about 10 yrs and I loved the way they sounded.

Bass Response in these little bookshelf speakers is not very important IMO. You will set all of them to SMALL + Crossover of 100 - 120 Hz. I would pick the 120 Hz to be safe.

Aperion Audio gives you 10 yrs warranty - you have to check this one, but last time I checked, it was 10 yrs warranty on their speakers. Plus, you can always return the speakers w/ no fees - free shipping to you and back to them - 30 day period.

I think DefTech & NHT gives you 5 yrs warranty - like most companies - even B&W & Revel speakers.

In terms of how they compare in sound quality, obviously only you can truly make that decision, but my GUT instinct tells me that all three will be extremely similar in sound quality.

I've only heard the DefTech (PM800) & NHT (SuperZero). But others have heard the Aperion and they say very great things about them.

Why did you want to keep the same BRAND of speakers + subwoofer in the first place?

I want them to be the same brand because they LOOK better.

If you care at all about matching their LOOKS (like me), and you have time to experiment (return if needed), you might just want to try out the Aperion 5 identical speakers + Subwoofer (10 yrs warranty on drivers, 5 yrs warranty on built-in amplifer - I think).

Any way you look at it (DefTech vs. NHT vs Aperion vs SVS), I think you will be happy.

My gut instinct tell me to go for the NHT just because I've own some for so long.

But at the same time, if I had the time, I would have loved to try out the Aperion (speakers + sub) for free.

[Aperion Bravus 8D Sub $500] + [4B $130 x 5 = $650] = $1,150