Boston University Group Offers White Scholarship

[jonnythan]

I don't see any "quotas" on admissions by Boston University.

I don't see any problem whatsoever giving black students financial encouragement to apply and attend a University. The admissions process is color-blind (aside from admissions personnel trying to guess the race of an applicant based on writing style, name, word choice, etc). If all potential students are judged on the same scale for admissions, where is the harm in trying to encourage minority students to come to your private institution by offering them a scholarship?

Universities encourage football players to come to their college by offering them scholarships. Why not offer women and minorities scholarships if your goal is a diverse campus? What's wrong with a private university doing this?

 

[jonnythan]

people of color.

People of color??

WTF are you? Transparent?

 

[furrycute]

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[stratman]

Why not just offer schorlarships on academic merits ALONE to ANYONE? That will take care of all forms of controversy.

 

[jonnythan]

Why not just offer schorlarships on academic merits ALONE to ANYONE? That will take care of all forms of controversy.

Because scholarships are used to encourage certain types of students to attend your university.

From football players to pianists, scholarships help the administration get the type of student body they want and - most importantly - attract a type of student that may traditionally be unrepresented.

 

[stratman]

J,

Why not just let the representation be based on academic merit, and not worry about any other aspect: religion, sex, color. Can you imagine the diversity of generally bright people who join your university because the scholarships are based solely on their academic achievements and your programs can satisfy their intellectual pursuits.

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

I think the topic boils back to the days of grade school and high school. You've got to look at the majority population in inner and suburb public schools, then judge how the top studends are doing on standardized testing. The top percentage of students in inner city schools for the most part don't test out as well as those in upper suburban public schools.

Could this be because the teachers are teaching to the median student population, and the top studends don't get the attention needed to excel in inner city schools? Are there not enough top students to warrant separate honors classes in inner city high schools? If so, this is a big setback for a gifted minority student (or non-minority for that matter).

Whatever the case, the top students in these inner city schools shouldn't suffer because the mean student population is below the standardized testing average of the suburban public school mean population.

I'm all for affirmative action helping top notch students in inner city schools getting a bit of a "push" into your Ivy League and higher rated colleges and universities.

 

[stratman]

We have those schools here in Miami; They're called "magnet" schools, if you're academically up to it, you can attend (they're public) sort of an "honors" program, the only caveat: your grades(they have to be good).

 

[BMXTRIX]

I think that republicans did that is a riot. There is no doubt in my head that when it comes to the colored folk voting and them darn women voting that republicans were screaming "NO!" at the top of their lungs.

Is affirmative action wrong? Yes.
Is a privately funded scholarship for black/hispanic/other minority wrong? No, I don't think so. I don't necessarily like the idea, but I sure as heck don't see how in America that can be considered wrong.

A school should never lower expectations though for any student. So, if BU or ANY school is lowering the bar for anyone, for any reason, it is a bit disgusting and an insult to all those that got in on their own merits.

I have zero issue with a caucasian scholarship in light of the other existing scholarships that are out there. I am a bit conflicted with the concept of scholarships being used to draw minority students to colleges that they may not otherwise attend. It seems that a college worth goinig to will draw people based on its own merits and minority or not, students should and will attend a good school. If they are trying to diversify, then there are other ways to target people without lowering the bar or give them money.

As I said though - this is America and if the scholarship is privately funded I have no right to whine about where that money goes to. If I were to decided to put up 100 million dollars for scholarships for midgets only - it seems like that should be my right as an American.

I am not at all sure about schools endorsing any of these scholarships though since that does initialize a preference.

 

[jonnythan]

J,

Why not just let the representation be based on academic merit, and not worry about any other aspect: religion, sex, color. Can you imagine the diversity of generally bright people who join your university because the scholarships are based solely on their academic achievements and your programs can satisfy their intellectual pursuits.

Because universities are competitive institutions and need to do things to create campuses that are diverse and attractive.

These things don't "just happen."

 

[stratman]

So let it be based academically, I think there's enough smart students out there that would attend based on this criteria alone.

 

[jonnythan]

So let it be based academically, I think there's enough smart students out there that would attend based on this criteria alone.

And you will get sterile campuses void of diversity which does no one any good.

 

[stratman]

J,

If the ultimate goal of higher education is to help you succeed at a profession, I'm sorry, I still don't see how diversity helps an individual succeed academically.....when I was in school diversity didn't help me with my exams or projects, quite frankly it was a non issue. And by the way where I live white anglos are the minority, yet if you say they deserve affirmative action scholarships the howls and screams would reach infinity. Just reality in these parts. Its a double standard.

 

[Sheep]

J,

If the ultimate goal of higher education is to help you succeed at a profession, I'm sorry, I still don't see how diversity helps an individual succeed academically.....when I was in school diversity didn't help me with my exams or projects, quite frankly it was a non issue. And by the way where I live white anglos are the minority, yet if you say they deserve affirmative action scholarships the howls and screams would reach infinity. Just reality in these parts. Its a double standard.

He goes to all the frat parties. If everyone went to school for school, those parties would be gone.

SheepStar

 

[jonnythan]

He goes to all the frat parties. If everyone went to school for school, those parties would be gone.

SheepStar

Thanks for your mature and thoughtful contribution

 

[stratman]

Never thought about it that way

 

[Sheep]

Thanks for your mature and thoughtful contribution

Better then being offensive.

SheepStar

 

[jonnythan]

Better then being offensive.

Looks like you're the one who spent all your time at frat parties

.... Wait. Your only options for responding were to be offensive or to be sophomoric?

 

[Sheep]

Looks like you're the one who spent all your time at frat parties

.... Wait. Your only options for responding were to be offensive or to be sophomoric?

Heaven forbid! A typo on the internet!

You're lucky I didn't point out your sentences above starting with "because".

But If you want to me contribute..

, where is the harm in trying to encourage minority students to come to your private institution by offering them a scholarship?

The Scolarship would then be wasted on someone who didn't A.) Deserve it, and/or B.) Want it.

You're getting into stereotypes by saying "The Football player" or "Pianst". I suppose you know exactly what clothes they're wearing too? Do you think every computer literate person has glasses?

Because scholarships are used to encourage certain types of students to attend your university.

What, the blonde muscular jock, or the asian piano nerd? They can have those style students simply because thats what they want to do, and do well. They don't have to meat any other criteria(except for $ and brains).

SheepStar

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

Sheep,

Can you decipher that last post? You lost me there, bud.

Scholarships are given to those already accepted into a university/college, or who meet certain criteria in getting in. Getting accepted, and obtaining scholarship money to continue the education are two different things. Higher education (for the most part) doesn't care where the money comes from to pay for school, as long as their students pay their bills.