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Seriously, I have no life.
Some atheist you turned out to be, spouting scripture. :)



Thanks for the concise list! I'm gonna start keeping the sabbath. Can't be too careful.
Which Sabbath, Sundown on Friday or Sunday? With, or without technology?
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
Which Sabbath, Sundown on Friday or Sunday? With, or without technology?
Sunday's double time so it's frequently open to being a down day.

I'll take the Saturday too but that might be double dipping.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
Oh boy. There's over 1300 examples listed. :confused:


Cruelty & Violence in the The Bible

If I had to pick a single reason for rejecting the Bible, it would be its cruelty.

It's not the cruelty and violence per se that bothers me; it's the biblical god's role in the cruel and violent acts. The God of the Bible ordered Saul to kill "man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass" in 1 Samuel 15.2-3. And the Bible contains hundreds of other cruel acts of God, any one of which, if true, would be enough for me to reject the Bible and its vicious God.

I also object to the pointless violence in the Bible, even when God doesn't seem to be directly involved. Judges 19, for example, is one of the most disgusting stories in all literature. If God was trying to communicate something in this chapter, I'd rather not know what it was.


This one is pretty nice....


In Judges 19, what did the Levite do to the body of his dead concubine
He chopped her body into twelve pieces and sent a piece to each tribe of Israel.
I took my concubine, and cut her in pieces, and sent her throughout all the country. Judges 20:16
When he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel. Judges 19:29 I took my concubine, and cut her in pieces, and sent her throughout all the country.
Judges 20:16
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
Idea: tax exempt, but also exempt from criticism. (See bible.)
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
"I'm just saying." Just pointing out the inherent flaw in using Deuteronomy. Yet "stoning to death" on sexuality is God's "perfect" law.:rolleyes::confused:

I'm more convinced conservative media heads having nothing to say. Nothing to offer beyond BS. Nothing on policy. No philosophy. Almost no investigative journalism. In fact, I'm not even sure Republicans have any regard for each other....
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
It begs why would Kirk use a flawed biblical example to highlight the flaws in the woman's argument on tolerance etc???
 
mono-bloc

mono-bloc

Full Audioholic
are the Bible, or for the well informed. The scammer hand book. It promises you everything and delivers nothing.
 
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TankTop5

Audioholic Field Marshall
Oh boy. There's over 1300 examples listed. :confused:


Cruelty & Violence in the The Bible

If I had to pick a single reason for rejecting the Bible, it would be its cruelty.

It's not the cruelty and violence per se that bothers me; it's the biblical god's role in the cruel and violent acts. The God of the Bible ordered Saul to kill "man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass" in 1 Samuel 15.2-3. And the Bible contains hundreds of other cruel acts of God, any one of which, if true, would be enough for me to reject the Bible and its vicious God.

I also object to the pointless violence in the Bible, even when God doesn't seem to be directly involved. Judges 19, for example, is one of the most disgusting stories in all literature. If God was trying to communicate something in this chapter, I'd rather not know what it was.


This one is pretty nice....


In Judges 19, what did the Levite do to the body of his dead concubine
He chopped her body into twelve pieces and sent a piece to each tribe of Israel.
I took my concubine, and cut her in pieces, and sent her throughout all the country. Judges 20:16
When he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel. Judges 19:29 I took my concubine, and cut her in pieces, and sent her throughout all the country.
Judges 20:16
This is why I love the Bible and believe, it doesn’t shy away from how screwed up people are and validates the need for a Savior. You read through the Bible and see how messed up everyone is and yet God still loves us, chose to send His son to die for us, there’s nobody who if someone treated them this way would still love them.

This is also why I really can’t stand most churches, they go around acting holier than thou and saying how you need to be perfect. I’m like, I read the book and I just didn’t see that example except for Christ… I’ll try to do better but if the folks in the book couldn’t do it I’m not going to be too hard on myself.

Anyway, Jesus asked Peter, “who do you say I am?…. Flesh and blood didn’t reveal that to you…” it’s not my job to make people believe or worry about it if they don’t but if asked I’ll say why I believe…. It’s a pretty cool story
 
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TankTop5

Audioholic Field Marshall
First of all there’s a lot of sarcasm in the Bible and it takes a lot of reading and study to start to see it. There are also many passages that appear contradictory until you look at the context whereas a simple reading of a verse vs looking at the context it has a completely different meaning.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
This is why I love the Bible and believe, it doesn’t shy away from how screwed up people are and validates the need for a Savior. You read through the Bible and see how messed up everyone is and yet God still loves us, chose to send His son to die for us, there’s nobody who if someone treated them this way would still love them.

This is also why I really can’t stand most churches, they go around acting holier than thou and saying how you need to be perfect. I’m like, I read the book and I just didn’t see that example except for Christ… I’ll try to do better but if the folks in the book couldn’t do it I’m not going to be too hard on myself.

Anyway, Jesus asked Peter, “who do you say I am?…. Flesh and blood didn’t reveal that to you…” it’s not my job to make people believe or worry about it if they don’t but if asked I’ll say why I believe…. It’s a pretty cool story
Allowing free will is a great way to see how bad people can be.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
First of all there’s a lot of sarcasm in the Bible and it takes a lot of reading and study to start to see it. There are also many passages that appear contradictory until you look at the context whereas a simple reading of a verse vs looking at the context it has a completely different meaning.
Stoning to death = stoning to death.
If a man sleeps with another man, thou shall be put to death.

It's really just religious extremism. The bad parts.
 
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TankTop5

Audioholic Field Marshall
Stoning to death = stoning to death.
If a man sleeps with another man, thou shall be put to death.

It's really just religious extremism. The bad parts.
In a way you are completely correct hence the need for Jesus and Grace.

The following statement isn’t intended to say we don’t need basic laws or civility, it’s a religious statement. What religious people get wrong is telling unbelievers to “repent of sins” according to religious beliefs which is completely wrong Scripturally. According to the Bible there’s only one thing nonbelievers need to “repent” (repent here means to change your mind and how you think) of is their belief in Jesus. The story of the Bible completely falls apart without this central belief and it’s pointless to discuss the rest of it because it all falls apart without an understanding of Him.
 

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