as if COVID wasn't bad enough ............

[Out-Of-Phase]

ORIGINAL STATEMENT:
"Canadians are generally more polite, on average. Americans can be real idiots & A-holes and that's the ones who AREN'T criminals."

MORE ACCURATE STATEMENT:
Based on my personal subjective experiences, Canadians are generally more polite, on average. But anyone can be real idiots & A-holes whether they're criminals or not.

 

[Old Onkyo]

Where?

Don't need to remind me that I don't want to live where this happens.

Where do you live?

 

[GO-NAD!]

ORIGINAL STATEMENT:
"Canadians are generally more polite, on average. Americans can be real idiots & A-holes and that's the ones who AREN'T criminals."

MORE ACCURATE STATEMENT:
Based on my personal subjective experiences, Canadians are generally more polite, on average. But anyone can be real idiots & A-holes whether they're criminals or not.

Truth.

 

[highfigh]

Where do you live?

Milwaukee area, which does have ongoing problems with people dying at the hands of the Police, but they don't make attempts at policing by force in the sense of anything like a police state or telling the officers to go out and bust heads. I would have more suspicion of problems at the top if all Police chiefs had been White, though. The problem isn't institutional by decree, it happens because the officers who cause the deaths don't have a long history of being disciplined or repeated violent incidents and nobody says saw it coming unless they lied about not knowing. I would like more info on whether the officers and deceased knew each other, as was the case in one shooting death that resulted in rioting, vandalism, looting and arson in the area where it occurred.

I'm in a suburb that abuts the border on Milwaukee and we have a lot of problems with crime because of our proximity. This weekend was very violent in MKE, with 11 shootings and several high speed car chases.

 

[highfigh]

ORIGINAL STATEMENT:
"Canadians are generally more polite, on average. Americans can be real idiots & A-holes and that's the ones who AREN'T criminals."

MORE ACCURATE STATEMENT:
Based on my personal subjective experiences, Canadians are generally more polite, on average. But anyone can be real idiots & A-holes whether they're criminals or not.

Those are distinctions without much difference. I consider criminals to be idiots and A-holes, but wanted to convey that too many are the latter without being criminals.

Canadians being overly polite is really kind of a joke that's used by comedians and it's actually different form what I have heard from people who spend a lot of time in places like Florida, where Canadians are said to be less polite than what I wrote, but not as bad as far too many from the US. The perception of people in other countries outside the US is often not positive. My personal perception of Canadians is limited because I haven't met many but they seemed nice enough.

To be blunt, I'm disappointed in Americans.

 

[highfigh]

Right here in Louisville. You don't want a Public Defender... Justice may be blind but she can tell by weight how much money you put on the scale.

I have heard that one of the Milwaukee aldermen carries a credit card scanner, so it's easier to take bribes but that was from a friend who's a lot more liberal than I am. I have talked with that alderman and I actually agreed about a lot of things that we had discussed but that didn't include bribery and other acts that could result in him being removed from office. I think that he wouldn't continue to be re-elected if he had actually been guilty of this and it was common knowledge. When local government malfeasance is made public, the city is pretty noisy about it- the county board accepted a pension plan that resulted in employees being able to receive a 'backdrop' payment AND the regular pension payments, with the backdrop often in the $500K and higher range. The County Executive would have received more than $800K plus almost $100K/year. When someone exposed this plan, the city was seriously pissed and it resulted in recall elections, with almost all county board members being removed.

When the new board announced that it planned to end the retirement scheme, county employees retired in droves- before the expected end of the plan, they might have had 20 retirements/month and after the drop dead date, they had more than 20 retirements/day and those who retired within the time window got the high payment. The pension plan needed a huge cash infusion from the county, which was paid by the taxpayers.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Those are distinctions without much difference. I consider criminals to be idiots and A-holes, but wanted to convey that too many are the latter without being criminals.

Canadians being overly polite is really kind of a joke that's used by comedians and it's actually different form what I have heard from people who spend a lot of time in places like Florida, where Canadians are said to be less polite than what I wrote, but not as bad as far too many from the US. The perception of people in other countries outside the US is often not positive. My personal perception of Canadians is limited because I haven't met many but they seemed nice enough.

To be blunt, I'm disappointed in Americans.

Like many stereotypes, there may be some elements of accuracy, but for the most part, it's an unearned reputation.

I've visited France several times and I have no recollection of encountering the infamous "rude waiter". If someone asked me where I met the most rude people in all my travels, I would have to say it was probably the UK. But, I lived there for a couple of years, on top of several other visits. So, it was probably more a function of longer exposure than any real difference in politeness.

There are rude people everywhere. I've travelled quite a bit in the US and I never encountered more rudeness there, than I have anywhere in Canada. I sincerely believe that more polite you are, the less rudeness you will encounter.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Back on topic, there have been 5-6 deaths at the hands of police in Canada over the past few weeks. Every one of them involved people suffering from mental illnesses. From the descriptions of the incidents, the cops seem to be ill-trained to handle such situations. It didn't help that all of those killed were visible minorities. While race might not be a factor in the outcomes of any of these incidents, in todays climate, that doesn't matter.

The latest:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/siu-police-shooting-mississauga-1.5621243

I don't understand why, when someone is barricaded by himself, posing no danger to anyone but himself, police seem to feel a need to be "in control". And, it looks like cops' most effective "therapy" is a 9mm round.

 

[highfigh]

Like many stereotypes, there may be some elements of accuracy, but for the most part, it's an unearned reputation.

I've visited France several times and I have no recollection of encountering the infamous "rude waiter". If someone asked me where I met the most rude people in all my travels, I would have to say it was probably the UK. But, I lived there for a couple of years, on top of several other visits. So, it was probably more a function of longer exposure than any real difference in politeness.

There are rude people everywhere. I've travelled quite a bit in the US and I never encountered more rudeness there, than I have anywhere in Canada. I sincerely believe that more polite you are, the less rudeness you will encounter.

Rudeness comes in many forms- maybe my perception is from living in MKE my whole life and seeing rude behavior so often. I would say the people I have met and interacted with in other parts of the US were generally more pleasant. Driving badly is one form of rudeness that I'm sick of and here, people drive incredibly badly and rudely.

My perception of rudeness comes as an observer- I don't treat people rudely because there's no point in doing that.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Rudeness comes in many forms- maybe my perception is from living in MKE my whole life and seeing rude behavior so often. I would say the people I have met and interacted with in other parts of the US were generally more pleasant. Driving badly is one form of rudeness that I'm sick of and here, people drive incredibly badly and rudely.

My perception of rudeness comes as an observer- I don't treat people rudely because there's no point in doing that.

I think some people don't recognize their own rudeness (that's not to insinuate that you are such a person). And, sometimes, perceived rudeness can be just an honest mistake.

You're correct about drivers though. Many people turn into self-entitled assholes behind the wheel. The funny thing is, people complain that drivers from X- city, state, province are terrible. But, in general, North American drivers are generally pretty poor.

 

[KEW]

I think some people don't recognize their own rudeness (that's not to insinuate that you are such a person). And, sometimes, perceived rudeness can be just an honest mistake.

You're correct about drivers though. Many people turn into self-entitled assholes behind the wheel. The funny thing is, people complain that drivers from X- city, state, province are terrible. But, in general, North American drivers are generally pretty poor.

I think Atlanta is one of the worst places, period! It is not that people from Atlanta are terrible drivers; but rather that Atlanta has such a mix of people from all over that you never know what they are going to do!
I was in Boston for several days and initially, I was outraged at how quick they were to do something like make a left turn in front of me, but after a couple of days, I had realized that if I would make eye contact or the least hesitation, they were going to pull out in front of me. Once I understood it, it was fun! Now I was in my early twenties when this happened. I suspect if I were in my 50's and had not had much exposure to driving in different cities, I would have simply been offended and left with the conviction that Boston drivers just suck (well, they do, but that is just because they are from Boston, nothing to do with their driving! )

 

[Mikado463]

Chicago, what a sad weekend ............

104 shot, 15 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend in Chicago

Five children were among the 15 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.

chicago.suntimes.com

 

[panteragstk]

Chicago, what a sad weekend ............

104 shot, 15 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend in Chicago

Five children were among the 15 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.

chicago.suntimes.com

Good lord, WTF...

 

[GO-NAD!]

Chicago, what a sad weekend ............

104 shot, 15 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend in Chicago

Five children were among the 15 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.

chicago.suntimes.com

That's insane.

 

[Danzilla31]

San Antonio law enforcement called to several shootings across Bexar County on Father’s Day

Local law enforcement responded to multiple shootings across Bexar County on Father’s Day.

www.ksat.com

 

[Danzilla31]

People are just straight as@$ losing there minds out there

 

[Mikado463]

People are just straight as@$ losing there minds out there

Sad truth is Chgo has been a mess for a long time.

 

[Ponzio]

From the Washington Post today.

A Minnesota jail faces a damning discrimination complaint.

“Eight minority correctional officers at a Minnesota county jail say they were segregated from the area where Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer charged in George Floyd's death, was being held, and only white officers were allowed to guard or communicate with him,” Holly Bailey reports. “One corrections officer, who described herself as a mixed-race woman, also suggested that Chauvin, who was filmed with his knee on Floyd’s throat, had been given special treatment at the Ramsey County Adult Detention Center in St. Paul. In a statement, she recalled watching security footage of a white female lieutenant, who was granted ‘special access’ to Chauvin’s cell on May 30, sit on Chauvin’s bed and allow him to use her cellphone — a major policy violation. … As the jail prepared for Chauvin’s arrival, a supervisor pulled all officers of color from their regular duties, according to the complaints, and asked them to report to the third floor of the facility, away from the fifth floor, where Chauvin would be transported and held in a secluded cell. All were replaced by white officers, the complaints say.”

Oh yeah, change is just around the corner.

 

[highfigh]

I think some people don't recognize their own rudeness (that's not to insinuate that you are such a person). And, sometimes, perceived rudeness can be just an honest mistake.

You're correct about drivers though. Many people turn into self-entitled assholes behind the wheel. The funny thing is, people complain that drivers from X- city, state, province are terrible. But, in general, North American drivers are generally pretty poor.

I think everyone has their moments but dangerous drivers need to be biatch slapped into oblivion. It's too bad traffic can't be monitored and cars controlled by remote, so these jags can be stopped.

 

[Mikado463]

I think everyone has their moments but dangerous drivers need to be biatch slapped into oblivion. It's too bad traffic can't be monitored and cars controlled by remote, so these jags can be stopped.

agreed, love to have .50 cal mounted on the roof .......