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lp85253

Audioholic Chief
Kvn_Walker said:
I visited a guy recently who had a few pairs of EPI speakers. The only ones I listened to were in his garage so it wasn’t an ideal place, but they for sure played loud and clear. They used single element crossovers, just a cap to the tweeter, for their 2-way speakers. Unlike Radio Shack, these guys knew what they were doing with that minimalist design. :p

You should give them a listen and offer your opinion. Price is more than fair for those.
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So to summarize your thought: $400 is a reasonable price for the humanspeakers?? Thx...
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
lp85253 said:
So to summarize your thought: $400 is a reasonable price for the humanspeakers?? Thx...
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He's only asking $300... it's quite a trek for me to go demo some speakers. That's more in your neck of the woods isn't it? It's in Mirage.
 
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Beave

Audioholic Chief
Pogre said:
Okay, so I found these DefTech Mythos ST-Ls for $3k. That's $2k off what they retail for, but still overpriced, imo. I looked for measurements and found this at Sound & Vision.

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Speakers Pair of Definitive Technology Mythos ST-L SuperTowers -...

New cost $5500.00. Perfect like new condition. Great speakers. https://www.definitivetechnology.com/products/mythos-st-l-supertower Definitive Technology Mythos ST-L SuperTower Flagship Super Tower...
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Other than that 5 dB peak at 10 kHz it looks pretty good, but there's still a 5 dB peak... is that going to make it sound bright? Like to the point that it would be pretty noticeable? Is that poor design or intentional? BS specs aside (bass down to 14 hz :rolleyes:) the rest looks like it might sound pretty good. I'm just not sure how much that 5 dB boost at 10k hz would muck it up.
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Here are higher resolution, anechoic measurements of the Mythos ST-L:

https://www.soundstagenetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1171:nrc-measurements-definitive-technology-mythos-st-l-supertower-loudspeakers&catid=77:loudspeaker-measurements&Itemid=153

The 10kHz peak is real, but it's not quite as bad as shown in the Sound & Vision measurements. It's fairly narrow, so it shouldn't be too terrible - just a touch extra brilliance on high highs.

Having said that, people buying these speakers are paying a premium for their size (very narrow).
 
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lp85253

Audioholic Chief
Pogre said:
He's only asking $300... it's quite a trek for me to go demo some speakers. That's more in your neck of the woods isn't it? It's in Mirage.
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It's closer to me, but it's too far to just go listen, I'm not even sure i could get there on the bus, then i gotta figure out how to get them home.. I might ask for delivery , but that puts pressure on myself to buy ...Edit: $300 makes it more interesting though.. I like the look, but have any idea what they may sound like...
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
Beave said:
Here are higher resolution, anechoic measurements of the Mythos ST-L:

https://www.soundstagenetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1171:nrc-measurements-definitive-technology-mythos-st-l-supertower-loudspeakers&catid=77:loudspeaker-measurements&Itemid=153

The 10kHz peak is real, but it's not quite as bad as shown in the Sound & Vision measurements. It's fairly narrow, so it shouldn't be too terrible - just a touch extra brilliance on high highs.

Having said that, people buying these speakers are paying a premium for their size (very narrow).
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Krikey! Those things fall apart after 9000 Hz. Their graph is a little easier to read, but from 7500-9000Hz, that's still a +5dB peak. Get a little off-axis and it's not so intense...
But still, beyond being a lifestyle speaker, I wouldn't buy those at 1K. ;)

To be fair, now, those measurements don't really look all that bad, overall. But there are definitely items there one can throw stones at.
 
zieglj01

zieglj01

Audioholic Spartan
lp85253 said:
It's closer to me, but it's too far to just go listen, I'm not even sure i could get there on the bus, then i gotta figure out how to get them home.. I might ask for delivery , but that puts pressure on myself to buy ...Edit: $300 makes it more interesting though.. I like the look, but have any idea what they may sound like...
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More info
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HUMAN Speakers: Welcome!

Huw Powell at HUMAN Speakers builds new speakers in the USA and provides DIY part kits, and offers a full range of speaker repairs, including in-depth support for vintage Genesis Physics and EPI/Epicure speakers.
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Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
Another interesting find. Kef R101s for $950. Did a little homework on these and it seems they're fairly well regarded. Not the most impressive bass-wise but super linear from 90 hz and up.

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KEF Reference Series Model 101 Speakers - electronics - by owner -...

Matched Pair of KEF Reference Series Model 101 Speakers. Arguably one of the finest compact loudspeakers ever produced. If you don't already know about these beauties please do some research. Both...
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lp85253

Audioholic Chief
Pogre said:
Another interesting find. Kef R101s for $950. Did a little homework on these and it seems they're fairly well regarded. Not the most impressive bass-wise but super linear from 90 hz and up.

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KEF Reference Series Model 101 Speakers - electronics - by owner -...

Matched Pair of KEF Reference Series Model 101 Speakers. Arguably one of the finest compact loudspeakers ever produced. If you don't already know about these beauties please do some research. Both...
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At $500 they'd be a great deal( i think)... I think even at $950 they'd be a decent deal if you're long on coin... Me, not so much.. Those humanspeakers may be a wonderful deal as well, i wish i had evidence they were more Philharmonic type neutral than ascend type neutral..Edit: there's a pair of sierra 2 ex in tucson, the price is too high for me though...
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
lp85253 said:
At $500 they'd be a great deal( i think)... I think even at $950 they'd be a decent deal if you're long on coin... Me, not so much.. Those humanspeakers may be a wonderful deal as well, i wish i had evidence they were more Philharmonic type neutral than ascend type neutral..Edit: there's a pair of sierra 2 ex in tucson, the price is too high for me though...
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Oh wow, I just saw them. $1300. Not bad, but not great. I paid $600 for my Sierra 2s.

What's the difference between Philharmonic neutral and Ascend neutral? Neutral is neutral, no?
 
zieglj01

zieglj01

Audioholic Spartan
Pogre said:
Oh wow, I just saw them. $1300. Not bad, but not great. I paid $600 for my Sierra 2s.

What's the difference between Philharmonic neutral and Ascend neutral? Neutral is neutral, no?
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The Kef are old ... a lot of technology since then ... were manufactured during 1979 through 1986
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
zieglj01 said:
The Kef are old ... a lot of technology since then ... were manufactured during 1979 through 1986
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Yeah, I did a deep dive on them. I know they're pretty old. They were top of the line back then and some of the vintage guys go ga-ga over them. Not enough bass extension for me personally, but It'd be cool to check out what was top of the line compared to today. They look like they're in great shape.
 
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lp85253

Audioholic Chief
Pogre said:
Oh wow, I just saw them. $1300. Not bad, but not great. I paid $600 for my Sierra 2s.

What's the difference between Philharmonic neutral and Ascend neutral? Neutral is neutral, no?
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No...neutral has many different sounds .. The ascends tend to be a bit treble forward...Dennis makes them more flat ...my guess is the phils are more like your il30s than the sierras, but with more detail... Pm Dennis sometime.. He's very familiar with Dave's work....
 
John Parks

John Parks

Audioholic Samurai
Sonus Faber Concertinos - though nice speakers, I am not really interested in them or the custom stands. The seller, though, has some interesting equipment (and no taste in decor).
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Sonus faber concertinos - electronics - by owner - sale

Up for sale Sonus Faber Concertino speakers in walnut finished matching Solid and very thick walnut stands that ordered custom made for me by a professional the stands alone cost me 400 plus tax and...
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zieglj01

zieglj01

Audioholic Spartan
John Parks said:
Sonus Faber Concertinos - though nice speakers, I am not really interested in them or the custom stands. The seller, though, has some interesting equipment (and no taste in decor).
dallas.craigslist.org

Sonus faber concertinos - electronics - by owner - sale

Up for sale Sonus Faber Concertino speakers in walnut finished matching Solid and very thick walnut stands that ordered custom made for me by a professional the stands alone cost me 400 plus tax and...
dallas.craigslist.org
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The Concertinos speakers sold for $995 - $1195 based on finish about 20 years ago ... trying to force the stands with the speakers, seems to make it a weak deal for some people at $950 ... but maybe someone will bite
 
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