2009 Onkyo Line-up (TX-SR607 and above)

[Biggiesized]

This is courtesy of our Magnolia insider at the AVS Forum

It looks like our TX-SR805 replacement comes in the form of the TX-NR1007 whilst the TX-SR876 and TX-NR906 are replaced by the TX-NR3007 and TX-NR5007 respectively.

I like the specs but it looks like Onkyo is trying to compete with Denon price-wise. I'm not so sure they can pull that off.

 

[Lordoftherings]

TY, but just a very small correction.

This is courtesy of our Magnolia insider at the AVS Forum

It looks like our TX-SR805 replacement comes in the form of the TX-NR1007 whilst the TX-SR876 and TX-NR906 are replaced by the TX-NR3007 and TX-NR5007 respectively.

I like the specs but it looks like Onkyo is trying to compete with Denon price-wise. I'm not so sure they can pull that off.

Thanks biggiesized,

I saw that post about 3 hours ago. Quite something, isn't it?

* But here's the actual score:

The replacement of the TX-SR805, was the TX-SR806.
And the replacement of the TX-SR806 is the new TX-NR807.
And the new TX-NR1007 is the replacement from the TX-SR876.

The TX-NR906 is replaced by the new TX-NR3007.
And the new TX-NR5007 is the replacement from the TX-NR1000 in the USA, and the TX-NR5000 in the UK.
** The US model TX-NR1000 was the same UK model TX-NR5000.

~~~ Just a small correction, I hope you don't mind.
I truly appreciate that you bring this info right here. I just love it. Thank you.

Cheers,
Bob

 

[Biggiesized]

I know that the TX-SR806 was the actual successor to the TX-SR805, but I was saying that the TX-NR1007 is the spiritual successor.

The reason I think the TX-NR3007 and TX-NR5007 are the new replacements for the TX-SR876 and TX-NR906 is because they all feature the Reon-VX chip.

The TX-NR807 is more akin to the wimpy TX-SR806.

 

[Lordoftherings]

I know that the TX-SR806 was the actual successor to the TX-SR805, but I was saying that the TX-NR1007 is the spiritual successor.

The reason I think the TX-NR3007 and TX-NR5007 are the new replacements for the TX-SR876 and TX-NR906 is because they all feature the Reon-VX chip.

The TX-NR807 is more akin to the wimpy TX-SR806.

You know what? I kind of figured that one out.

The 806; that I knew for sure that you knew.
And I was also convinced that you were referring to the logical (spirituality) upgrade path of the 805, which is the next level after (876 --> 1007).

As for the 3007 and 5007, assumptions doesn't cut it.
I read everything there is to know about these new babies, and from the most secrete places to the UK gurus.
I already mentioned it on my thread, you know the one that you should know about. That's right, that one: "Everything Important There Is To Know About A/V Surround Receivers, But You Were Afraid To Ask." It's the Bible of all threads.

And you're right, just forget about the 807. It's the 806 in the same disguise, with an Ethernet port, but with worst Dac than the 806 itself.
Want to know more? It will be my pleasure.

Regards,
Bob

 

[ggunnell]

Just a reminder that the Onkyo 607 uses the 2EQ version of Audyssey, which does not even EQ the sub at all (rooms vary, but the sub often needs the most EQ to deal with standing wave patters in the room).

All the 2009 Denon's have the MultEQ level of Audyssey which EQ's the sub and audibly outperforms 2EQ, and Yamaha's YPAO (this years 465 and up) EQ's the sub (I can't speak for MCACC, SNAP, and others).

Bottom line is that unless you are lucky enough to have minimal bass peaks at your listening position or are not using a sub, the 607 will be probably be audibly outperformed by other inexpensive units.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Bottom line is that unless you are lucky enough to have minimal bass peaks at your listening position or are not using a sub, the 607 will be probably be audibly outperformed by other inexpensive units.

I don't think that most people that bought this receiver, or intend to purchase it, are really concern by this.

Also, I will add that it's not everyone that uses the room Eq feature, as it could be more problematic than beneficial; particularly for people with less experience with the proper tools and experience on how to properly adjust it.
But, it's cool that all Denon receivers used at least the MultEQ variety.
Hopefully Onkyo will follow suit with all their receivers in 2010.
I will call some high positioned people there, to make sure that this will happen. They always love to hear my feedbacks.
So, I do appreciate yours, as you are very correct.

I do see your point, but I just thought of mentioning mine also, that's all.
Tomorrow will be a better day still.

Cheers,
Bob

 

[Seth=L]

Considering the TX-NR905/906 both had Toroidal transformers, and the TX-NR5007 is the only one in the series that seems to have one as well, it would make sense that it's the replacement for the TX-NR905/906, especially with the Reon scaler in mind. It looks like the TX-NR1007 was thrown into the mix to allow Onkyo to inflate their 3 50 pound models. Think about it, the cost is cut down from producing the TX-SR876 to the TX-NR1007 (supposed replacement). It uses a lesser video processor yet retains a similar price. Now than can produce what the successor to the TX-SR876 should have been at similar cost, but with a higher markup, the model above follows suit.

So just so it's clear, the TX-NR5007 will be nothing like what the TX-NR1000 was, it will be remarkably similar to the TX-NR905/906.

It's just clever marketing. I believe strongly this is why the three top models have a clear distinction in model number, to basically divert attention away that we are paying a higher price for the same basic product.

 

[Lordoftherings]

^ Good point Seth=L, I agree.

The 906 is the new 5007.
The 876 is the new 3007.
The 1007 is the new kid on the block.

And everything else down below is just for smart people with less money.

 

[Lordoftherings]

 

[Lordoftherings]

^ Sorry, I was just too late to include the above post with the other one above, for easier and faster look, in the goal of facilitation for people like my good friend Seth=L, which was absolutely correct on his latest observation, from post #7.
Too bad also that they don't include the weight of each model, but this is easily indicated at the US Onkyo web site.
The TX-SR607 for example weights 23.8 lbs, the TX-SR707 weights .... ..., and the TX-NR807 weights 39.7 lbs.

Thanks again Seth=L.

Bob

 

[Seth=L]

Yeah, they need to get all specs published already. Hard to get people excited about a product if you don't tell them what it is.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Weights & Dacs...

^ Agreed.

So, I was saying:

1. The 607 weights 23.8 lbs
2. The 707 weights 27.7 lbs
3. The 807 weights 39.7 lbs (But it might be 37.1 lbs, according from another source.)

And:

1. The 805 weights 50.9 lbs, and uses five (5) TI* Burr-Brown PCM-1796a Dacs (stereo dac).
* Texas Instruments.
2. The 806 weights 37.5 lbs, and uses four (4) Crystal** CS 4398 Dacs (stereo dac).
** Cirrus Logic.
3. The 807 weights 39.7 (or 37.1) lbs, and uses one (1) TI* Burr-Brown PCM-1690 Dac (8-channel, or multichannel dac), which is the same Dac used in the 707.

>>> Now, I can really get down to it, with all the DSP chips serial #s, how many of them in each of these receivers, the serial # of each video processor, the serial # of the Op-Amps (Operational Amplifiers), the serial # of the chip that control the volume control, the serial # of the Passive CMOS switches, Onkyo own custom chips for various specific operations, including the one used for Zone 2 and 3 Volume & tone functions (analog domain), the chip used in the Phono section, as well in the Headphone Amp section, the make and serial #s of the complementary devices (OT; Output Transistors), the value in MicroFarads (uF) for their primary block capacitors (Caps), and the full enchilada with a zillion more technical parts of operation from the Audio (analog and digital), Video (analog and digital), Preamp and Power Amp sections (remember, it's my job to know these things), but,... I just won't.

What else is new? Network? Ya right.
-> I'll keep these two, separated from my Home Theater Room, thank you very much,
and you're very welcome, see you next year at Christmas time.

Bob

 

[hyroglifx]

Here is the link to the DAC specs they are using.
http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/pcm1690.pdf
This is the 707 frm the asian site
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/av_components/av_receivers/tx-sr707/index.html
The gold one is nice. I have not seen to many of those.

 

[hyroglifx]

Wow i was looking at the 805 and it has everything that the current AVR have now except the prologicII. Is this true? it also has the 1.3a HDMI connects. Man i am buys this one. Where can i find one?

 

[Lordoftherings]

Here is the link to the DAC specs they are using.
http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/pcm1690.pdf
This is the 707 frm the asian site
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/av_components/av_receivers/tx-sr707/index.html
The gold one is nice. I have not seen to many of those.

Thanks man for these cool links.
The gold version (Japan) is simply sublime, just gorgeous.

Wow i was looking at the 805 and it has everything that the current AVR have now except the prologicII. Is this true? it also has the 1.3a HDMI connects. Man i am buys this one. Where can i find one?

You meant Pro-Logic IIz.

*** The 805, which I own by the way, is a fantastic receiver, that has everything and more.
They are now hard to find, but keep looking, they always pop up, here and there. Sometimes at Accessories4Less, other times at Amazon, then on e-Bay, and Audiogon, or Videogon, or many other places. But these are the main ones. If I find one, I'll let you know by PM. How's that, cool or what.

<<< OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION >>>

* The Onkyo TX-NR807 weights 39.7 lbs.

Bob

 

[hyroglifx]

Ya that gold one caught my eye. too bad we can not buy those. So the 805 features are the same. Does anything on the 805 have something like the prologic IIz? i dont think i need it but its new. i am searching now for the 805.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Ya that gold one caught my eye. too bad we can not buy those. So the 805 features are the same. Does anything on the 805 have something like the prologic IIz? i dont think i need it but its new. i am searching now for the 805.

If you want the gold version, you need to move to Japan.

The 805 has everything that your heart and soul desire, and yes, the black and siver version are the same than the gold one.

It does not have Pro-Logic IIz, but it's not an important feature at all anyway.
Lots of new stuff is useless in my opinion.
But the 805 has Pro-Logic IIx, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, Audyssey MultEQ XT, THX Ultra2, and much, much more.

If you want to find out more about the excellent 805, check the 805's own thread, there is a lot of valuable information there.

I am also searching the 805 for you.

Take care,
Bob

 

[hyroglifx]

Thanks LOTR. I found one. bidding. So we will see. THX

 

[hyroglifx]

I just picked one up for LOTR. 500 shipped.

 

[Lordoftherings]

I just picked one up for LOTR. 500 shipped.

Wow! I was just about to give you a link for one that I just found for $599.

You did much better than I did.

Congratulations! You'll be so blown off by this excellent receiver,
that you won't get out of your house anymore!
Are you ready to face the music?
You'll better be prepare, cause the music won't let go of you.

You have a great evening & enjoy your new toy, you'll love it,... to death.

Bob