Avengers 2012

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I don't really understand the question. I've always liked Mark Ruffalo as an actor so his portrayal of The Hulk to me was great.

I mean how the Hulk was 100% out of control and trying to kill everyone one moment. Then 30 minutes later was 100% in control and taking orders when he "needed" to and changing easily at will.

 

[markw]

Tell me you guys liked the Hulk character going from zero control one moment to total control the next moment and able to change at will any time he felt like it?

Why did he even ride a motorcycle if he could change easily at will?

Or tried to kill all the good guys at one point?

It's a fargin comic book movie, dude!

And yet you hold up Watchmen as the standard bearer for these kind of movies? Oh yeah, that's so much more realistic and plausible.

 

[Bryceo]

It's a fargin comic book movie, dude!

And yet you hold up Watchmen as the standard bearer for these kind of movies? Oh yeah, that's so much more realistic and plausible.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

It's a fargin comic book movie, dude!

And yet you hold up Watchmen as the standard bearer for these kind of movies? Oh yeah, that's so much more realistic and plausible.

Oh, I forgot the part where I said anything of that sort.

All I said was I watched it about 10 times and I liked it and I bought the BD.

Thank goodness for that Ignore List feature.

 

[markw]

Oh, I forgot the part where I said anything of that sort.

All I said was I watched it about 10 times and I liked it and I bought the BD.

Nice try at evading the subject...

 

[Alex2507]

I mean how the Hulk was 100% out of control and trying to kill everyone one moment. Then 30 minutes later was 100% in control and taking orders when he "needed" to and changing easily at will.

You are 110% right. They changed him around but he was so entertaining that I had no problems with it. I wasn't like in love with the original hulk ... but Thor on the other hand?

 

[GranteedEV]

Tell me you guys liked the Hulk character going from zero control one moment to total control the next moment and able to change at will any time he felt like it?

Of course it was stupid, and so was tony stark "falling down" towards the portal (in space ). But the stupidity is totally fine, because the movie doesn't take itself seriously. Because of this, your suspension of disbelief takes over, despite the sheer stupidity of it.

 

[Alex2507]

Of course it was stupid, and so was tony stark "falling down" towards the portal (in space ).

What are you talking about?

That was thew only part of the movie that made sense.

 

[mike c]

You were in the wrong kind of theatre for that...

alex sits in the back corner ...

he doesn't do it for Black Widow, he does it for Tony Stark

Tell me you guys liked the Hulk character going from zero control one moment to total control the next moment and able to change at will any time he felt like it?

Why did he even ride a motorcycle if he could change easily at will?

Or tried to kill all the good guys at one point?

here's my theory ... he needs something to direct his rage. in the flying boat, he had nothing to concentrate on, in the battle, he could go crazy on the many aliens.

imagine this on yourself:
you stubbing your toe. to whom do you get angry at?
if you were pissed at somebody, you could be super angry at just that person.

 

[96cobra10101]

Kicked the crap out of Dark Knight I'd say.

Huh? You must be thinking of the '60's tv show.

 

[96cobra10101]

Of course it was stupid, and so was tony stark "falling down" towards the portal (in space ). But the stupidity is totally fine, because the movie doesn't take itself seriously. Because of this, your suspension of disbelief takes over, despite the sheer stupidity of it.

Explosion blew him back towards portal, plus earth gravity pulled him through.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

here's my theory ... he needs something to direct his rage. in the flying boar, he had nothing to concentrate on, in the battle, he could go crazy on the many aliens.

Okay, that made sense.

That's why I asked - hoping someone could explain it to me.

So when you're around the Hulk, you better have a common enemy there or else you will become the enemy.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

You are 110% right. They changed him around but he was so entertaining that I had no problems with it. I wasn't like in love with the original hulk ... but Thor on the other hand?

I guess the Hulk has always been my favorite character. So I probably got upset when he's not like the way I picture it.

But, yeah, he is still definitely entertaining - the most entertaining IMO.

But I think Mike explained it well. As long as Bruce/Hulk sees the bad guys, he can control himself a lot better by channeling his anger on the bad guys. Otherwise, his anger is out of control and the person standing next to him is the bad guy.

 

[psbfan9]

Watched this last night streamed via Prime 30 day free trial. I thought it looked good, the sound was good, but I dozed off a few times. The story line wasn't interesting enough to keep my pea brain entertained.
I kept telling myself just enjoy it for what it is, but it was too over the top and the story was weak. I'm not a comic book guy. Even as a kid, never got into them. So that may have had something to do with it as well.

Not a buy for me.

 

[itschris]

I guess the Hulk has always been my favorite character. So I probably got upset when he's not like the way I picture it.

But, yeah, he is still definitely entertaining - the most entertaining IMO.

But I think Mike explained it well. As long as Bruce/Hulk sees the bad guys, he can control himself a lot better by channeling his anger on the bad guys. Otherwise, his anger is out of control and the person standing next to him is the bad guy.

I watched this again last night. The Hulk thing is stupid. How did he physically transform in 2 seconds. Here's my take on this genre of movies... it should take itself seriously. That's what makes it more "real" and adaptable to the viewer. Let's look at a couple of examples:

The original Batman movies were comical. Somewhat enjoyable, but almost slapstick in a way. The first reboot with Christian Bale changes everything. The movies plays out with a fraction of the over the top nonesense and people can better relate = better movie

Star Wars. Let's look at the last 3 films. When did Jedi's become these super humans that could somehow jump out of a speeder, fall a mile through airship traffic, then just happen to land on the speeder he wanted... it's stupid. Look after the battle when the huge ship is falling to earth, breaking apart, and all that.. They're cracking jokes and don't even looked all that concerned.

The original Star War characters were fallible and more human. They got upset, they got scared, they appeared challenged. More real. Hence = better movie.

The first Iron Man to me is still the best because it was the most real. You could somewhat imagine it all happening somehow. When they get lazy and go for the easy gags, and do things that don't make sense (like the Hulk transformation) and cover it with the notion "well c'mon, it's just a movie" its cheapens it and makes a great movie just a pretty good one at best. it's the producers, writers, and the directors being lazy.

It's all still entertaining, but the more serious and "real" they make it, the better these far out unrealistic movies will be.