Bail Out & War, waste of Money?

[Rickster71]

Just when I thought the Iraq war & Bail Out cost too much....:

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.

Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77



2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html



3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html



4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html



9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html



11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth,heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht



12. The National policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'

Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf



13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.

Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm>



14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .'

Verify at: http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml




The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

 

[rnatalli]

Yes, that's a big number, but in 2006 they contributed about $430 billion in taxes; not sure about 2008. The question becomes whether we can completely secure the border with the $90 billion difference and if we're willing to pay that much.

 

[jamie2112]

Keep in mind your great great grandparents were not born here and most of our familys came from another country to be living here. I am for sure against the money spent on Illegal aliens comforts as our ancestors didn't have that kind of assistance with food stamps and housing like the aliens get today. I have a nieghbor down the street from Pakistan who has 5 kids and drives a taxi in Annapolis and he speaks very very broken english. How the hell did he get a license. How do most of the taxi drivers in NYC get their licenses? I think all illegal aliens should get 6 months to get their act together and if they are not paying taxes and are on welfare after that period than ship their butts back to where they came from.You would think with 90 billion dollars we could secure our borders a little better...Or not spend 10 billion on a :"bridge to nowhere" and other stupid pork projects.......

 

[Rickster71]

Yes, that's a big number, but in 2006 they contributed about $430 billion in taxes; not sure about 2008. The question becomes whether we can completely secure the border with the $90 billion difference and if we're willing to pay that much.

Just think of how much they would pay if they were here legally.

I'll bet we wouldn't have to secure our borders, if other governments provided for there own people.

Illegal aliens wouldn't flock here for a "Free Lunch"

 

[Adam]

Illegal aliens wouldn't flock here for a "Free Lunch"

True, but people will always be attracted to the land of Bose and honey.

Jokes aside, here's my take on the situation (at least for today...well, for right now):

I'm not against people in general. People who want to try and make a better life for themselves and work for it - that's good stuff. If someone comes here, does work, doesn't put any burden on our financial structure, and wants to send money back home - I've got no problem with that. Americans are very generous in helping out other countries, so the situation of someone sending money back home to their families seems to fall into the same area for me.

What I am against are people who take advantage of the system and extract resources at the expense of others. I don't care if the freeloaders are illegal aliens or U.S. citizens - a thief is a thief. I am quite bothered by the illegal alien part because being this close to Mexico, I hear stories from friends in the medical field about illegals putting a strain on the medical system here and then just going back to Mexico. Apparently, they cannot be denied care. Yet, I have elderly friends down the street who suffer because the system bounces them around before ever helping them, probably because of insurance rules. Torques me off.

The attitude of entitlement aggravates me. I think that's a big difference between the first group that I described (who work for and earn what they have) and the second group (who take from others).

 

[Rickster71]

The attitude of entitlement aggravates me. I think that's a big difference between the first group that I described (who work for and earn what they have) and the second group (who take from others).

Very well said my friend!

You have encapsulated politics, it's class warfare, and why people vote the way they do; all in one sentence.

 

[10010011]

As I recall President Bush wanted to give all these illegal aliens full amnesty.

Would that make it ok?

 

[MidnightSensi]

Almost 43 trillion, TRILLION, has been spent on the absolutely failed war on drugs.

 

[Exit]

Getting back to the original point, how much are we spending on the banking bail outs and the war, and how does that compare to illegal aliens?

 

[haraldo]

True, but people will always be attracted to the land of Bose and honey.

Jokes aside, here's my take on the situation (at least for today...well, for right now):

I'm not against people in general. People who want to try and make a better life for themselves and work for it - that's good stuff. If someone comes here, does work, doesn't put any burden on our financial structure, and wants to send money back home - I've got no problem with that. Americans are very generous in helping out other countries, so the situation of someone sending money back home to their families seems to fall into the same area for me.

What I am against are people who take advantage of the system and extract resources at the expense of others. I don't care if the freeloaders are illegal aliens or U.S. citizens - a thief is a thief. I am quite bothered by the illegal alien part because being this close to Mexico, I hear stories from friends in the medical field about illegals putting a strain on the medical system here and then just going back to Mexico. Apparently, they cannot be denied care. Yet, I have elderly friends down the street who suffer because the system bounces them around before ever helping them, probably because of insurance rules. Torques me off.

The attitude of entitlement aggravates me. I think that's a big difference between the first group that I described (who work for and earn what they have) and the second group (who take from others).

This same thing could be said in many countries... I lived two years in Australia and it's absolutely the same there, the border is under immense pressure by illegal immigrants from China.... people may end up shipwreck at a beah downunder asking, is this Australia? ........ OK, can you book me a Taxi?

The question is the same there, in the US, in Norway, in all of EU. Why do we want to spend money on cheaters trying to break the system? Problem it is equally bad here and all over Europe...

And worst problem, many can't be sent back because we don't even know where they come from, they throw away everything that may identify them....

This is hard and it annoys the hell out of me that descent honest people do not get their chance every now and then because of law breaking idiots

-H

 

[10010011]

So this must have been this weekends winger cut and paste release as I have seen the exact same posting on several boards I regularly visit today.

 

[haraldo]

So this must have been this weekends winger cut and paste release as I have seen the exact same posting on several boards I regularly visit today.

A good thing can't be said too many times

 

[unreal.freak]

So this must have been this weekends winger cut and paste release as I have seen the exact same posting on several boards I regularly visit today.

LOL.... maybe they cut it from here and pasted it there

Tommy

 

[haraldo]

I'll bet we wouldn't have to secure our borders, if other governments provided for there own people.

Illegal aliens wouldn't flock here for a "Free Lunch"

This is oversimplifying the problem ref my previous post, all civilized countries have this same problem, albeit to a much larger extent in the US, because it's a much bigger country, but you cannot put the blame on others and say that this is why this is a problem in US.