Most music goes down to what frequency?

[gus6464]

If you listened to most music except classical (Rock, Pop, Jazz, but mostly rock of all kinds), how low would your system have to go in the FR? I know pipe organ can reach to 10Hz and lower but what about everything else?

 

[avaserfi]

The chart below should give you a good idea of musical instruments and their passband. Typically an F3 of 30Hz is sufficient for most music playback.

 

[croseiv]

Most music (Rock, Jazz, Classical) is in the 30 Hz and up range. SOme of the newer techno/electronica goes into the teens with alot of energy at 20-30 Hz.

 

[jostenmeat]

Well, the bass guitar goes down to 41.25 hz (my calculation by using perfect intervals from the reference of A = 440). Of course alternate tunings, or extra strings, will go lower.

I believe the piano goes down to 27.5 hz.

Bass drums? No idea.

 

[MinusTheBear]

What is the frequency range for explosions in movies and other effects for movies?

 

[gus6464]

So if one is putting together a 2ch system with 2 subs I am guessing subs that can go cleanly to 25Hz would suffice?

 

[Adam]

So if one is putting together a 2ch system with 2 subs I am guessing subs that can go cleanly to 25Hz would suffice?

Sure...unless you're an audioholic.

 

[3db]

So if one is putting together a 2ch system with 2 subs I am guessing subs that can go cleanly to 25Hz would suffice?

It would suffice if the subs went down to 30 Hz unless you listen to music like a Pipe Organ or this techno stuff

An interesting note on the piano

This makes the piano sound better to most ears, partially because the low end of the piano at 27.5 Hz is in a frequency range where your hearing has dropped off considerably, so that the upper harmonics of these low strings are probably heard more prominently than the fundamental. The extreme upper end of the piano is tuned up to 30 cents sharp in a practice that is called "stretched" tuning.

from this website

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/music/pianof.html

 

[gus6464]

Sure...unless you're an audioholic.

Well I have a totally separate HT system in living room but I spend more time listening to music in my office. I have a crap Sony in my living room because I have been having a hard time convincing the wife on a new sub because she doesn't want coax wire going all over the place. Although now that new HSU is small and wireless that has all been fixed. Just waiting on 3rd party measurements before taking the $1300 plunge.

 

[avaserfi]

What is the frequency range for explosions in movies and other effects for movies?

This depends entirely on the master engineer. I have seen plots of bass in varying movies where explosions hit below 10Hz and others where 30Hz is barely reached. Here is a link to a list with movies with bass and some measurements of certain movies:

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/home-audio-subwoofers/11364-master-list-dvd-hd-dvd-blu-ray-movies-bass-thread.html

So if one is putting together a 2ch system with 2 subs I am guessing subs that can go cleanly to 25Hz would suffice?

Completely sufficient. In fact the low frequency module I am currently designing for temporary use as main speakers and eventual use as near field monitors will have an F3 of 25Hz with a 4th order highpass crossover at 25Hz to ensure minimal port compression at high SPL. Please note virtually no design limitations were accepted in this design as such I would not be willing to have insufficient low frequency extension.

 

[Adam]

Well I have a totally separate HT system in living room but I spend more time listening to music in my office. I have a crap Sony in my living room because I have been having a hard time convincing the wife on a new sub because she doesn't want coax wire going all over the place. Although now that new HSU is small and wireless that has all been fixed. Just waiting on 3rd party measurements before taking the $1300 plunge.

Just joking, Gus! As others have said, in reality 25 Hz is completely sufficient for what you want.

If you end up getting the Hsu, I (and I'm sure others) will be waiting eagerly for your review. I'm interested in how well their wireless system works in real world use. I've been looking into a stand-alone wireless system this weekend, which could be used with any sub or speaker.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Yeah, I think most of the "Good Sounding" non-organ music goes to only around 30 Hz.

The other "Not-So-Good Sounding" non-organ music goes down bellow 20 Hz.

The great sounding acoustic music goes down to no more than 27.5 Hz.

I have a built-in subwoofer in every speaker plus a separate subwoofer, and my wife HATES BASS! She makes me turn down the subwoofer WAY WAY down every time. Does anyone else have this problem?

Oh, the ironies of life.

 

[dobyblue]

The lowest note on a pipe organ is 16.4Hz

There are some scenes in The Incredibles with subsonics down to 5Hz.

Here's a nice color chart of the one already posted:

 

[croseiv]

The thing that jumps out at me is that more energy is needed to produce the sub bass frequenies. I can say the when the Ultra is working with the low frequncies in organ music, it is really impressive. The air is really shaking.

 

[Midcow2]

So if one is putting together a 2ch system with 2 subs I am guessing subs that can go cleanly to 25Hz would suffice?

Heck I'd settle for just one with these specs:

Frequency response (aenchoic)
20 – 86 Hz (±1.5dB)
–3 dB at 18 Hz / 127 Hz
–10 dB at 16 Hz / 154 Hz

2500 watts RMS short term

single 13.5 inch driver

http://home.jlaudio.com/pdfs/10456.pdf

 

[Joe Schmoe]

I have heard minimonitors that go to 55Hz with and without a sub. The overall sound with a sub is more powerful, but I am not aware of hearing any actual notes that I could not hear without it.

 

[3db]

I have heard minimonitors that go to 55Hz with and without a sub. The overall sound with a sub is more powerful, but I am not aware of hearing any actual notes that I could not hear without it.

Try listening to some of BAch's organ music with a sub and you'll hear the difference. But yes, for most music, a sub isn't really necessay unless you LOVE strong bass

 

[croseiv]

Try listening to some of BAch's organ music with a sub and you'll hear the difference. But yes, for most music, a sub isn't really necessay unless you LOVE strong bass

Amen!!!! Can't do organ music without good bottom end.

 

[Midcow2]

Real explosions usually less than 10 Hz

What is the frequency range for explosions in movies and other effects for movies?

Real explosions are very,very low frequency. You can feel (so can buildings!) more than you can really hear. For an example see this URL: http://www.ias.ac.in/currsci/apr25/articles20.htm

Here is a pretty good sound frequencies URL :
http://www.woodmann.com/yates/Audio/bwl_eq_info.pdf

 

[gus6464]

I have heard minimonitors that go to 55Hz with and without a sub. The overall sound with a sub is more powerful, but I am not aware of hearing any actual notes that I could not hear without it.

If a sub is properly calibrated it should not overpower the speakers and just blend seamlessly.