rocket 850 system or aperion 5t system

[silversurfer]

And why would AV123 be afraid?

I am sure you can put two and two together.

FWIW, I am not asking you to share my opinion.

You are clearly pushing Rockets and not encouraging the OP to compare and come to his own conclusions.

 

[mazersteven]

I am sure you can put two and two together.

FWIW, I am not asking you to share my opinion.

You are clearly pushing Rockets and not encouraging the OP to compare and come to his own conclusions.

Not pushing anything. I recommend he find someone close to him that would be willing to let him audition the Rockets.

 

[silversurfer]

Not pushing anything. I recommend he find someone close to him that would be willing to let him audition the Rockets.

But you didn't say that for the Aperions, and you did not mention anything about a comparison. You may not realize it, but that is clear bias, and "pushing" to one side.

 

[mazersteven]

But you didn't say that for the Aperions, and you did not mention anything about a comparison. You may not realize it, but that is clear bias, and "pushing" to one side.

He already has the Aperion speakers in his house. Why would I recommend he find someone to audition them with?

Quote from the first post: "I have had the aperions in my house for the last 3 weeks."

 

[silversurfer]

Instead of just listening to them, why not encourage him, while he still has the Aperions, to seek out Rockets for comparison?

And from his second post in the thread:

my 30 days is about up with the aperions and the eta on the 850 is
july 15th ....thats about 8 weeks of having to listen to the panny.....
no pain no gain

and your quote...

I have not heard the Aperion speakers. But I would be very surprised if they can match, or even compete in sound quality to the Rockets.

Is that not clear bias? Why not promote a comparison? If you are not "afraid" why not compare?

 

[mazersteven]

Instead of just listening to them, why not encourage him, while he still has the Aperions, to seek out Rockets for comparison?

Thats what I have been telling him to do. I think I mentioned twice for him to join the AV123 forum, and seek out a member so he can go audition the 850.

If he does it in a hurry he will still have the Aperions. But in fact he hasn't joined AV123 yet. Not my fault he hasn't taken the advise.

 

[silversurfer]

Thats what I have been telling him to do. I think I mentioned twice for him to join the AV123 forum, and seek out a member so he can go audition the 850.

If he does it in a hurry he will still have the Aperions. But in fact he hasn't joined AV123 yet. Not my fault he hasn't taken the advise.

Read your posts, not once does it say anything about comparing or hurrying. IMO, you do not realize your bias.

 

[Soundman]

Aperion does honest, legit ads. While av123 engages in shady shill advertising.

Do a search on the avsforum, av123 has been nailed left and right.

Hey Furrycute,
Honestly, i don't know where you get this BS from, but what I can say, is that it has absolutely nothing to do with performance. The Rocket's are incredible. I have demoed several ID companies and they were by far the best for the money. The 850's are excellent in the midrange with very clean highs. They don't go as low as some other towers, but that's what a sub is for anyway. If you want a good system, find a tower that excell's in the midrange and add a sub. That system will outperform a full range tower anyday! As far as HT goes, you will be hard pressed to find another system (for the money spent) that will out perform Rocket's. Rockets are built rock solid and you can feed them all the power you want and they will beg for more without sounding bright or strained at all.

To the OP, I don't think you can go wrong with either of these systems, both companies make excellent products. I personlly think the Rocket's have a better center channel and they can handle more power then the Aperion's. But really you just have to decide what sound you prefer. You owe it to yourself to audition as many systems as possible. Good luck! Hey, if you're ever in NC, feel free to come over and have a listen. We'd have a "blast" with the Rockets (no pun intended...ok maybe it was.)

 

[mazersteven]

Read your posts, not once does it say anything about comparing or hurrying. IMO, you do not realize your bias.

Whatever.

 

[silversurfer]

rch6776,

Sorry about derailing the thread a bit, but in my opinion, from what I have read, there is nothing that would lead me to believe the Rockets sound better than the Aperions, and you would be much better off by doing what you can to compare the like products.

 

[silversurfer]

Whatever.

I apologize if the truth hurts.

I take it you subscribe to the thought that bigger/more means better?

 

[Soundman]

Read your posts, not once does it say anything about comparing or hurrying. IMO, you do not realize your bias.

Uh, is it just me, or do you have something against AV123? I honestly think Mazer was just trying to help the OP. The best thing to do is to listen to as many speakers as possible before making a decision. That is all Mazer meant. He doesn't have some AV123 agenda. To my knowledge, Mazer doesn't even have the Rocket's, but he has heard them, so he was just letting the OP know that they are very good speakers, and he should at least hear them before making his decision. That's all. In the end, if the OP likes the Aperions better, then he should stick with them. At least then he would know what the better choice was instead of always wondering....what if!?!

 

[mazersteven]

I apologize if the truth hurts.

I take it you subscribe to the thought that bigger/more means better?

No I don't subscribe to anything other then what my ears tell me.

 

[silversurfer]

Uh, is it just me, or do you have something against AV123? I honestly think Mazer was just trying to help the OP. The best thing to do is to listen to as many speakers as possible before making a decision. That is all Mazer meant. He doesn't have some AV123 agenda. To my knowledge, Mazer doesn't even have the Rocket's, but he has heard them, so he was just letting the OP know that they are very good speakers, and he should at least hear them before making his decision. That's all. In the end, if the OP likes the Aperions better, then he should stick with them. At least then he would know what the better choice was instead of always wondering....what if!?!

No agenda what so ever. I realize that mazersteven was trying to help, I just think it was biased.

My standpoint is the proper thing to do is compare.

 

[silversurfer]

No I don't subscribe to anything other then what my ears tell me.

I don't understand that statement because you haven't heard the Aperions.

 

[mazersteven]

I don't understand that statement because you haven't heard the Aperions.

And that is why I stated "I would be very surprised if they can match, or even compete in sound quality".

Because I have not read to many threads or posts that state of the Aperions sound quality being superior.

I also stated I never heard the Aperions. But I have the Rockets. I have nothing against Aperion.

 

[Soundman]

And that is why I stated "I would be very surprised if they can match, or even compete in sound quality".

Because I have not read to many threads or posts that state of the Aperions sound quality being superior.

I also stated I never heard the Aperions. But I have the Rockets. I have nothing against Aperion.

As you can see, Mazer is just giving his perspective on his experience. Since he has actually heard the Rocket's, he has some positive things to say about them. Obviously, he isn't going to comment on the Aperions, if he hasn't heard them except that he would be surprised if they could match the Rockets. Again, it's just one guys opinion. The OP can take what he want's from it. It's really not an issue anyway since the OP has heard the Aperion's, so the sound of the Aperions is not in question. It's the sound of the Rocket's the OP hasn't heard, so that is why Mazer recomend he hear them.

 

[rch6776]

wow.....did not mean for this to get so heated......i have had the aperions in my room for three weeks and i am not satisfied..... regardless of what i buy i don't think it will be aperions..... that is the reason i started this thread...to get some feedback on the 850's......

 

[rch6776]

i guess i went about it the wrong way......

 

[armaraas]

Well now that we got that all cleared up...

I have a question for the OP if he's still around...or I'm just getting in the middle of this for no reason...

Full disclosure: I have not heard Aperions or anything from AV123, so I feel I should give an opinion too.

Why are you looking to compare Rocket RS850's to the 5T's? I would think the Aperion 6T's would be a better comparison based on published specs and price. The 850's before the current sale retailed for almost twice as much as the 5T's, and even on sale are still $400 more. It's not very scientific, but I would think it's a fair assumption the 850's will out perform the 5T's. However, I would not make that assumption against the 6T's. Just curious, as to me it would appear you may be comparing two sets of speakers that might be in different performance brackets to begin with...

I'm hoping to get a few sets of speakers in home to compare soon, 6T's being one of them, sadly however, I will not be auditioning anything from AV123, as they have no center channels I can accomdate in the price range I am looking.

Now back to the regular posters...