rocket 850 system or aperion 5t system

zhimbo

zhimbo

Audioholic General
Sorry rnatalli, that's not how this thread works. That post was informative and didn't insult *anyone*.

Do better next time.
 
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rnatalli

Audioholic Ninja
That is exactly the kind of info I was looking for.

I was really not so much trying to compare the two in performance as I was wanting a comparison in the characteristics of the two. As I stated the Aperions sound great on the high end and the sub does a great job but I felt that the mids were coming up a little short. If the 850's emphasize more on the mids I am definately going to give them a listen.:)
Definitely see if someone locally has some Rockets you can audition. Also, take a look at the ELT line from Av123 and check out some Monitor Audio Silvers. You may like their sound.
 
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calnbs

Audioholic
Here are some of the readings I found about the Rockets. Since you already have a taste of what the Aperions sound like, I won't go into much research on the Aperions. So if it sounds bias, I am trying not too. Readings on Rockets:

AV123 owner, MLS, thoughts on his Rockets 7th post. (his company, take it with a grain of salt):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=931069&highlight=rocket+850&page=9

A blind shoot out with Rockets:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=931069&highlight=rocket+850

I hope this gives you a better feel of what the Rockets are about. Like I said, I won't go into the Aperions because you already have a feel about them.
 
Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
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Originally Posted by rnatalli
Having heard both, it's fair to say Aperions and Rockets sound very different. Aperions emphasize the higher frequencies and have a more reserved midrange. Rockets emphasize midrange and are more reserved up high. That's not to say you hear detail with the Aperions that you won't with the Rockets or you won't hear midrange with Aperions. it's just these speakers emphasize different things. Listen for yourself and decide.
That is exactly the kind of info I was looking for.

I was really not so much trying to compare the two in performance as I was wanting a comparison in the characteristics of the two. As I stated the Aperions sound great on the high end and the sub does a great job but I felt that the mids were coming up a little short. If the 850's emphasize more on the mids I am definately going to give them a listen.:)
Looking at what has been said about the Aperion sound and what you didn't like about them, I think you will be happy with the Rocket's. I had a similar situation. I used to have some Axiom speakers which focused on high frequencies (please don't jump in Axiomites. That's not what this thread is about. There are plenty of other threads on that discussion to make one sick.) The problem I had with them was how bright they were and I didn't feel like the midrange was as good. Once I got the 850's, all that brightness went away and they sounded fantastic. I will also note that the 850's excell in the midrange area due to the (4) midrange drivers, so if you do get Rocket's, they would be the best choice. They also have a very big open sound, due to the large internal volume. Also, I'm not saying that the midrange is overemphasized either. The Viffa tweeter used in Rocket's have excellent detail. The high end sounds very clear and smooth. What I like about it is that it does not sound fatiguing like some others do. They are very easy to listen to. You can also play them at extreme volume levels and they don't sound strained. Now, I'm not sure how Aperion compares to Axiom, but based on what you have described, I thought it would be helpful to post this because this was something I was struggling with as well when I was trying to pick out a speaker. I know we all have different opinions and we all hear differently, but based on what you've said, it sounds like you may prefer a speaker that is more neautral to laid back. I say laid back because compared to some bright speakers,the Rocket's do sound laid back. This is a very pleasing characteristic, IMO. I think you will like them based on what you've said. I hope I haven't come off as disrespecting any of these other brands. These other brands make fantastic speakers as well. It's just that we all prefer different things, and since you didn't care for the Aperion sound, it seems that the Rocket sound may be just what you are looking for. Honestly, I really was impressed the first time I heard them. It was night and day compared to the ear-piercing :)eek:) sound I was used to before I got them. I hope this helps. :)
 

Loki

Enthusiast
Where are you located? I'm 90% sure you can get an in-home audition from a Rocket owner somewhere within driving distance of you. No risk. Just see if it's a sound that YOU like. Who cares what other people like. If you don't like what YOU hear that YOU will eventually pay for, then keep on auditioning until you get the speaker that will please YOU.
 
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rch6776

Enthusiast
I live outside of tyler....it's in east texas...i don't know anyone in this forum but i would like hook up with someone......
 
pzaur

pzaur

Audioholic Samurai
I own some earlier version Aperion speakers and think they are great. The sound reproduced is definitely clear and accurate. Passing sound across the front three speakers is seamless. They are matched very well.

I personally don't find them bright even with them being in a room that is rectangular and has wood flooring. Things I have read have suggested that the newer Aperion line is an upgrade to the previous line in sound quality and imaging.

The 5 series need to be run with a subwoofer since they do not reach down very low (~65hz).

The build quality on the speakers I own are excellent. They are solid and have a perfect piano black finish.

Speakers I own:
2 - 533T (fronts)
1 - 533 VAC (center)

-pat

btw - any speaker can be compared to any speaker. They all are designed to do the same thing. Price has nothing to do with the actual quality or peformance of an item. All the price does is set how much money comes out of your pocket.
 
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rch6776

Enthusiast
The 5 series need to be run with a subwoofer since they do not reach down very low (~65hz).

I have the 5ts with the 5c center teamed up with the bravus 10" sub.
When I crossover the center below 80 the sound is great as long as there are no voices.....voices get muddled.....anything @ 80 or above is just a little too bright for me.....i have tweaked all that i know how to tweak to get them sounding the way i want them to sound....can't do it.....


The build quality on the speakers I own are excellent. They are solid and have a perfect piano black finish.
Not going to disagree here at all. I love the way they are built, and love the way they look.....


Price has nothing to do with the actual quality or peformance of an item. All the price does is set how much money comes out of your pocket.
I was basically just letting everyone know that price was not going to be a factor. Nothing more nothing less.
 
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silversurfer

Senior Audioholic
When I crossover the center below 80 the sound is great as long as there are no voices.....voices get muddled.....anything @ 80 or above is just a little too bright for me.....i have tweaked all that i know how to tweak to get them sounding the way i want them to sound....can't do it.....
Have you calibrated the system with test tones and a SPL meter?

The crossover point should not affect the brightness.
 
pzaur

pzaur

Audioholic Samurai
rch6776 -
Personally, never found them muddied. But, that's me. The price comment wasn't directed towards you. It's just been mentioned earlier that products in different price brackets shouldn't be compared. I don't remember who implied that.

Happy hunting!

-pat
 
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silversurfer

Senior Audioholic
yes I have calibrated them with audyssey and without...
I have read that Audyssey rolls off the top end when engaged.

Shut Audessey off and try a manual calibration with a SPL meter and test tones.

When you change the crossover, what type of voices are affected? Male, female, or both?
 
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rch6776

Enthusiast
When you change the crossover, what type of voices are affected? Male, female, or both?
when i set the crossover at 60 the center speaker really sounds good but male voices are muddled......when i set it at 80 females voices are really bright.....
 
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silversurfer

Senior Audioholic
when i set the crossover at 60 the center speaker really sounds good but male voices are muddled......when i set it at 80 females voices are really bright.....
That doesn't seem right. What happens if you set the speaker as "large" and shut off the sub?

Female voices don't come close to the 80hz range. Male voices, real deep ones, barely get there.
 
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rch6776

Enthusiast
That doesn't seem right. What happens if you set the speaker as "large" and shut off the sub?
i have not tried that.....ill try that tomorrow afternoon .....i appreciate your interest in trying to help resolve this issue......:)
 
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silversurfer

Senior Audioholic
I think you should make sure the setup is correct before dismissing the speakers, any speakers.
 
pzaur

pzaur

Audioholic Samurai
I can't control the actual crossover on my sub, but, I have my speakers setup on the receiver as follows:

533T mains - large
533VAC center - small

Huge difference with the setting of the center channel for sound quality.

-pat
 
Haoleb

Haoleb

Audioholic Field Marshall
Aperion does honest, legit ads. While av123 engages in shady shill advertising.

Do a search on the avsforum, av123 has been nailed left and right.

I dont know about you. Well maybe I do. But personally I dont buy...anything based on the type of advertising a company does. Even if what you said were to be true which I find unfathomably difficult to do, Does that mean that aperion automatically makes a better speaker?

Not quite.
 
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silversurfer

Senior Audioholic
I can't control the actual crossover on my sub, but, I have my speakers setup on the receiver as follows:

533T mains - large
533VAC center - small

Huge difference with the setting of the center channel for sound quality.

-pat
But you can control the crossover on the receiver, right?
 

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