Right. And the Denon 3930CI & 5910CI scored a Perfect Score on Audioholics.
Is Pyrrho saying that the Perfect scores on Audioholics don't mean anything because it was not this month?
It met their standards at that time. Whether it would meet all of their standards now or not is difficult to say. And when they said the DVD-5910CI was the best they tested, this has two limitations:
1) It does not include anything that they have not tested.
2) It does not include anything that they tested later.
These facts are important for evaluating what they say. It does not alter anything if you resent those facts.
Oh, by the way, Secrets of HT looked at the 5910, not the 5910CI, which has the Silicon Optix Realta chip.
Which chip does the Oppo have?
You obviously have not been bothered to read the information at the links already provided. That would seem to indicate that you really don't care about finding out the truth about any of this, and just want to argue in favor of your beloved Denon brand.
With the DV-983H, OPPO has incorporated Anchor Bay's latest VRS (Video Reference Series) technology. An ABT102 chipset provides AutoCUE-C™, Progressive Cadence Detection™, and Precision De-interlacing™. An ABT1018 chip handles Precision Video Scaling™, frame rate conversion, aspect ratio control and video zooming. These technologies combine to generate a clearer, smoother, and true-to-life picture free of artifacts.
http://www.oppodigital.com/dv983h/default.asp
You can buy the same processing power separately in a DVDO processor that retails for over $2000 (with the optional card needed to equal the processing power of the OPPO; I mention this because you seem to be impressed with high prices).
This is from one of the reviews regarding the Oppo:
"As with past Oppo models, I did see rather
serious jitter on some of the obscure film transfer cadences on the HQV Benchmark disc (i.e., 6:4 and 8:7)"
I thought the Oppo was PERFECT?
http://svconline.com/corporateav/products/avinstall_oppo_digital_dvh/
Well, okay, I guess it's perfect for the price. It is a better value then the Denon.
You need to be more careful when you quote, as they are talking about "jutter", not "jitter". Also from that same site:
At $399, it represents a remarkable value with image-processing horsepower that can compete head-on against reference DVD players that typically cost in the thousands of dollars.
...Oppo has bestowed the 983H with Anchor Bay Technologies' second-generation ABT1018 vertical-and-horizontal scaling chip. That's essentially the same 10-bit processing Anchor Bay uses in its $2,000 DVDO iScan VP30 standalone video processor.
The result is a noticeable reduction in moiré artifacts on particularly difficult scene material, such as the racetrack stands and steps along the river, in the Silicon Optix HQV Benchmark DVD or on standard-resolution test patterns. Obviously, you can't make high definition out of nothing. More literally, you can't display the sharpness of high definition if you don't start with enough pixels, but the elimination of scaling artifacts goes a long way toward the clarity of high definition — even on a large screen.
Previous Oppo models have used Faroudja's DCDi for de-interlacing, but the DV-983H incorporates Anchor Bay's ABT102 de-interlacer to perform the initial conversion from 480i to 480p, prior to scaling. The ABT102, an optional “precision de-interlacing card,” is an extra $500 when added to the VP30 video processor. With the same functionality on a single ASIC, the ABT102 chipset gives the 983H excellent de-interlacing capabilities for dramatically reducing “jaggies” on sharp diagonal lines and performing smooth text rolls and crawls over video.
And here is the statement you tried to quote:
As with past Oppo models, I did see rather serious jutter on some of the obscure film transfer cadences on the HQV Benchmark disc (i.e., 6:4 and 8:7) — although that is not likely to be an issue in many real-life viewing situations.
With regard to your question:
I thought the Oppo was PERFECT?
This again shows you have not been reading the information at the links, nor have you been paying attention to what I have written in this thread. If you had, you would realize that no one has said it is perfect, only that it is the best there has been so far (as far as can be told by professional reviews in which testing has been conducted). If it were perfect, it would not be "anybody's guess" whether Denon would make a player that surpasses it, because perfection is impossible to surpass.
If you like judging equipment by the retail price rather than by actual performance, you are free to do so. But you should not expect others to agree with you or quietly say nothing when you suggest that price dictates quality.
