HD DVD Should Re-think PR After Beatings From Netflix and Best Buy

stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
The 2 BB's I go to here in Orlando have had prominent HD-DVD displays, right next to the Magnolia sections for at least 6 to 7 months. The BD display is down about 3 to 4 aisles down around the regular DVD player and DVD/VCR combo sections. Softwarewise, both stores I go to have the same amount of space allocated for BD and HD-DVD. In the newspaper adds, up until recently, I haven't seen much of a difference in advertising, other than there have been more models of BD hardware that have been promoted (because there are more brands out there) than HD-DVD hardware.

I've been to other BB's in Central Florida, and have noticed the same thing. I will admit, I own a PS3 and about 20 BD movies (NEVER have had a problem with playback in any way), but it seems like many here are implying that HD-DVD isn't getting a fair shake and the reality is, IT DOESN'T MATTER which is the better system of playback, it's about MARKETING, and Toshiba has done a really, really crappy job. They have no one to blame but themselves. They couldn't align any of the major Japanese manufactuers with themselves, and could only muster half of the major studios to support them early on. ON TOP OF THAT, they had a pretty big headstart over BD in both hardware and software, thanks to Sony's early on PS3 supply fiasco.
As for which is the superior system, they both are as capable as each other as far as picture quality and sound quality is concerned for the most part.
One more thing to remember. Sony created Beta. If anyone here is old enough to have expereinced Beta vs VHS, Beta was CLEARLY, as far as picture quality was concerned, a superior format. It was a VISIBLE difference, and Sony still lost that format war. Sony learned from JVC's victory on this one, and just applied it to beating Toshiba, who apparently has a very short memory of the past.
I guess that's my rant.
No, not a rant, but right on the money, I've said it many times before, it isn't a tech "war" as much as it is a PR/marketing war, and Toshiba failed miserably on all counts, they should have fired their marketing/pr firm two years ago.
 
stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
The BB I go to has HD DVD and BD back to back, they both have the same lineal footage/shelving, the HD DVD side faces a wider aisle as you get near the DVD section where the new releases are, BD is opposite on the first aisle next to TV SHOWS dvd section, so you can say that HD DVD has better real estate. But where it counts (next to the TVs and prominent displays near the regular dvd players) BD is king.
 
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slim340

Audiophyte
As I stated, the scenario I spoke of is at my BB. My store happens to be top 10 in the company. Not saying the store in Orlando is not, but the fact of the matter is the company is using my store and it's clout to end the war, whether fair or not. I find it ridiculous that retailers who back one over the other is saying the consumer does not deserve the right to chose for themselves. And as for saying your PS3's have never run into problems with BD, it is because it is the only BD machine that is constantly being updated with the newest "final profiles". One last thing to remember, there is a new profile that once used may render all BD machines unable to play the BD it was made for.
 
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westcott

Audioholic General
I could care less what BB says or does. I am FAR more upset with the NetFlix decision to stop providing HD DVD's. I never planned on buying either format. My goal was to rent what I wanted, when I wanted it for all the studio releases.

Well, that is no longer an option and to add insult to injury, my BR player refuses to play many of the BR titles. No such problems with my HD DVD player.

And for what? A marginal video performance difference that is more dependant on the quality of the video transfer than the technology used to display it.

Save your money!!!!
 
croseiv

croseiv

Audioholic Samurai
I could care less what BB says or does. I am FAR more upset with the NetFlix decision to stop providing HD DVD's. I never planned on buying either format. My goal was to rent what I wanted, when I wanted it for all the studio releases.

Well, that is no longer an option and to add insult to injury, my BR player refuses to play many of the BR titles. No such problems with my HD DVD player.

And for what? A marginal video performance difference that is more dependant on the quality of the video transfer than the technology used to display it.

Save your money!!!!
Yeah. I don't understand why they would be phasing out HD DVD altogether. I was about to get an HD-DVD player just so I could rent titles from Netflix. Seems like a bad business decison sort of. The HD-DVD format was appealing to me since the prices are cheaper. I guess it's still too early yet. SD-DVD still looks good to me...
 
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Johnd

Audioholic Samurai
Yeah. I don't understand why they would be phasing out HD DVD altogether. I was about to get an HD-DVD player just so I could rent titles from Netflix. Seems like a bad business decison sort of. The HD-DVD format was appealing to me since the prices are cheaper. I guess it's still too early yet. SD-DVD still looks good to me...
Well...it's not over til it's over croseiv. Toshiba is not the only manufacturer of HD players, and import HD movies, some of which are stellar over US versions, are compatible on all HD players because they do not have that region coding nightmare that BD has. Additionally, soem BD fanboys will have you believe we can't watch "their" movies. Untrue. Some "exclusively BD" movies can be had in HD European or Japanese versions. :D
 
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Buckeye_Nut

Audioholic Field Marshall
When you work for the HD DVD Promotions Group you look forward to Friday. So far this week - Netflix announced it’s dropping HD DVD and Best Buy, the country’s largest consumer electronics retailer, announced its endorsement for Blu-ray. What does Best Buy think it is – Ted Kennedy?


Discuss "HD DVD Should Re-think PR After Beatings From Netflix and Best Buy" here. Read the article.
LOL........very funny!
 
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Buckeye_Nut

Audioholic Field Marshall
To me it read a little like Rush Limbaugh touting Conservatism... Best Buy has ALWAYS pushed Blu-ray. For them to make this statement is clarifying what was obvious to the rest of us from the start.
Nicely put....

Circuit city is also pushing BD pretty darned hard even though they haven't officially declared it in a press release.
 

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