SEALED 12" Kit?

[speakerman39]

Hello people been reading up on the Rythmik DS12 Standard Kit that can be had for $465 including shipping. I then have learned that PE has a 2 ft^3 box that can be purchased for about $135. Just wanted to know if there are any members here that has used the PE cabinet with the Rythmik kit?? If so, how did it turn out? Can you post any pics?? Lastly, how does the kit perform-OR better yet does it perform better than the offerings over at SVS, Hsu, Elemental Designs, and etc. in the repsective price ranges??? This kit looks to be one heck of a deal. Just not really sure the cabinet from PE would work very well. I noticed that it is made of 3/4" MDF which is what is recommended BUT the baffle is also 3/4". Wouldn't it be better to use at least 1"-1 1/2" MDF. Please feel free to add your thoughts/impressions, and etc. Oh almost forgot, what modifications, if any, did the PE cabinet need to make it work?

 

[speakerman39]

uummmmmmmm.............................anybody????

 

[darien87]

I built the Rythmik kit. But I went out and bought the wood and built the box the way Brian recommends. It only cost about $100 for all the materials, so what's the point of buying the PE box?

 

[annunaki]

Unless the subwoofer is ungodly heavy a 3/4" baffle is fine is good bracing is used. I only used a 3/4" baffle for a JL Audio 12W7 but I braced the baffle real well.

The enclosure is rock solid. It is 2.25ft net volume.

 

[no. 5]

I have heard that there are people using PE cabinets with the Rythmik kits (from j garcia, I think), as for measurements; this is a twelve inch Rithmik kit in about a two cubic foot enclosure, and these are the measurements for the PB10-ISD (which has been replaced with the PB10-NSD.

 

[speakerman39]

I built the Rythmik kit. But I went out and bought the wood and built the box the way Brian recommends. It only cost about $100 for all the materials, so what's the point of buying the PE box?

Hi darien and thanks for posting. Funny thing is I just found one of your threads where you posted some pics. This has helped a lot. You did a fantastic job by the way so kudos to you. The only reason I am considering the PE cabinet is that I am not much of a carpenter. Dont really have the tools either and to go and buy them would add to the cost. However, I do manage a car audio shop where my installer builds subs all the time and as such would have no problem building this box for me. He will not be able to veneer it so it will be done via a local cabinet maker OR someone in the industry--Ty at Tyler Acoustics. Not sure what he would charge me but I have seen his work first hand and all I can say is WOW!!!! How much MDF did you use? I may use 1" instead of 3/4" or perhaps use plywood instead. Anyways, how is it with music? Dont really need the extension per se because I have an SVSPB12-NSD that has plenty of output at 20 Hz. Just want more output in the 40-80 Hz range that is extremely articulate, tight, and punchy sounding. Please share your thoughts.

 

[speakerman39]

Unless the subwoofer is ungodly heavy a 3/4" baffle is fine is good bracing is used. I only used a 3/4" baffle for a JL Audio 12W7 but I braced the baffle real well.

The enclosure is rock solid. It is 2.25ft net volume.

Wow, you are quite talented my friend. That cabinet looks to be rock solid for sure!!!! Well, the PE cabinet I believe it is braced BUT not sure how well. Therefore, a thicker baffle will probably be in order. So, how does the JL W7 sound???

 

[speakerman39]

I have heard that there are people using PE cabinets with the Rythmik kits (from j garcia, I think), as for measurements; this is a twelve inch Rithmik kit in about a two cubic foot enclosure, and these are the measurements for the PB10-ISD (which has been replaced with the PB10-NSD.

Thanks for the links. I seen that thread last nite. Ikeaa did a great job on that cabinet. What I really need to know is how well the PE cabinet jells w/respect to the Rythmik kit. My installer can build the cabinet BUT it may be a good while as he is over-worked as it is. Well, according to him anyways.....LOL!!!!! That is why I am seriously considering the PE cabinet.

 

[annunaki]

Wow, you are quite talented my friend. That cabinet looks to be rock solid for sure!!!! Well, the PE cabinet I believe it is braced BUT not sure how well. Therefore, a thicker baffle will probably be in order. So, how does the JL W7 sound???

It sounded great while I was using it. It is sitting in my basement waiting for my next project. I will be using it in the house (same enclosure, new finish) with a behringer DCX2496 and an EP2500 when I get some extra cash. It will be part of a two channel system with my B&W Signature 7SE (formerly in-wall) DIY speakers I did.

 

[no. 5]

It sounded great while I was using it. It is sitting in my basement waiting for my next project. I will be using it in the house (same enclosure, new finish) with a behringer DCX2496 and an EP2500 when I get some extra cash. It will be part of a two channel system with my B&W Signature 7SE (formerly in-wall) DIY speakers I did.

I hope you get some extra cash soon, I want to know how well it works.

 

[annunaki]

Based upon the modelings I have, it should be ruler flat to 18hz, sealed, anechoic (using some eq of course). Room reponse will decide where it actually ends up on the low end.

 

[darien87]

Hi darien and thanks for posting. Funny thing is I just found one of your threads where you posted some pics. This has helped a lot. You did a fantastic job by the way so kudos to you. The only reason I am considering the PE cabinet is that I am not much of a carpenter. Dont really have the tools either and to go and buy them would add to the cost. Anyways, how is it with music? Dont really need the extension per se because I have an SVSPB12-NSD that has plenty of output at 20 Hz. Just want more output in the 40-80 Hz range that is extremely articulate, tight, and punchy sounding. Please share your thoughts.

Thanks for the kind words. But believe me, if I was able to build the box, anyone can. All I had was a Black & Decker Workmate bench, a jigsaw, a drill and miscellaneous tools that most people probably have. I think the only tool I specifically bought for the box, were the clamps that I used to hold the box together while gluing.

That said, I LOVE the Rythmik, both for music and movies. But I bought mine for the low frequency extension, as my previous 10's weren't going low enough for me. It's definitely nice and tight, but will hit like a hammer when it needs to.

 

[darien87]

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Nice lookin' box. I see I'm not the only one that thinks if 1 screw is good, then 10 must be REALLY good!

 

[speakerman39]

I hope you get some extra cash soon, I want to know how well it works.

Yah me 2..........LOL!!!!!!!

 

[speakerman39]

Based upon the modelings I have, it should be ruler flat to 18hz, sealed, anechoic (using some eq of course). Room reponse will decide where it actually ends up on the low end.

But, my primary intention is to use it for the musical aspects. I have plenty down low as in a SVS PB12-NSD. Just want more slam in the 45-80 Hz range that is very articulate, punchy, and tight. Everything I have read regarding the Rythmik kit is that it is EXTREMELY musical. That is my intention of getting the Rythmik kit.

 

[speakerman39]

Thanks for the kind words. But believe me, if I was able to build the box, anyone can. All I had was a Black & Decker Workmate bench, a jigsaw, a drill and miscellaneous tools that most people probably have. I think the only tool I specifically bought for the box, were the clamps that I used to hold the box together while gluing.

That said, I LOVE the Rythmik, both for music and movies. But I bought mine for the low frequency extension, as my previous 10's weren't going low enough for me. It's definitely nice and tight, but will hit like a hammer when it needs to.

Hi darien. I am sorry to say BUT I have no wood-working tools whatsoever. Thus, undertaking a project like this would really cost me too much. Therefore, I am looking at other options. Would a single sheet of MDF of 4' X 8' suffice for the box??? I may use 1" as opposed to 3/4" for added strength. In fact, I may just use 3/4" birch plywood as it comes highly recommended. My installer feels like he can build the box in no time and he has whatever tools are needed. I just have to buy the materials. Should be able to get it done at $100 or so.

 

[speakerman39]

People please keep in mind that I am trying to ask a real important question: If I spend $465 on the Rythmik S12 Kit and another $100 or so on the enclosure for a total of $564-$600 WILL the Rythmik kit out perform most everything in this price range???? In other words, is there anything that will out perform the Rythmik kit in the $600 OR less price range???? My primary goal is to gain a more musical sub than the SVS PB12-NSD. It is stellar for ht performance and I have it sounding better musically speaking. However, I still find it a bit lacking in the middle to lower midbass range where it is crucial for my mucial needs. The key is to ascertain a very tight, articulate, well-defined and punchy bass line. Hence, it does not need to plunge to the lowest octaves just sloidly down to say 35 Hz resulting in a mid-bass hump if you will. If, it does dig down deep then that is even better. Now whith that said do any of you care to chime in as it is most needed. Thanks for your time.

 

[darien87]

I'm not aware of a sub out there that will beat the Rythmik, for the money. In fact, they Rythmik will kick the crap out of most subs out there that cost twice as much.

I don't remember the size of the sheet of MDF I bought, but I do remember that I only bought the 1 sheet and I had enough left over to build another box.

 

[annunaki]

I am considering a project (once I get some others done) with the Dayton 12" High Fidelity subwoofer and a 300w rms amplifier (or larger) and two 3" aero ports. Using WinISD in a 5 ft^3 box tuned to about 19-20 hz it is ruler flat to 20hz with no eq (anechoic). I can get this done for under $300.00 including materials for enclosure. Add on a Behringer DCX2496, and I have any response curve wanted (ie: any sound desired). This can all be done for under $550.00.

 

[j_garcia]

I'm not aware of a sub out there that will beat the Rythmik, for the money. In fact, they Rythmik will kick the crap out of most subs out there that cost twice as much.

I don't remember the size of the sheet of MDF I bought, but I do remember that I only bought the 1 sheet and I had enough left over to build another box.

I've heard Darien's sub a couple of times and I do have to say it sounds great. It does perhaps lack a bit of that big tactile response of a similarly designed vented sub, but it is clean and it digs deeper than I expected.