Yamaha AVENTAGE 2021 AV Receivers Bulk Up on Power and 8K Features

[Tankini]

I know the feeling about going from zero meds a day to around 9 following my week in the hospital to find out my heart is only half there.
Although I've avoided the financial burden by keeping myself poor enough to get my 2500 dollars a month of meds at no cost to me. (Entestro (4 a day) and Jardiance is damn expensive)
It's pretty sobering to find out I'm not invincible anymore.
(and that the gear I have has to last!)

Back to Yamaha....really loved my CR 1020 and NS-500's way back when.

I feel you man. Back in my 50's was 195 lbs had those Popeye looking arms from my days in the oilfield, no meds. Now 66, not broke up, but not feeling like I was in my 50's. Oh I could get that Rotel 1580 MKII, which I like very much. But 5k Yikes! Sure Marantz or Denon, all I need is 7 channels max. Like you stated gear needs to last! But then I don't wanna be on my deathbed going, ohh man I should have got that Rotel 1580 MKII.

 

[isolar8001]

I feel you man. Back in my 50's was 195 lbs had those Popeye looking arms from my days in the oilfield, no meds. Now 66, not broke up, but not feeling like I was in my 50's. Oh I could get that Rotel 1580 MKII, which I like very much. But 5k Yikes! Sure Marantz or Denon, all I need is 7 channels max. Like you stated gear needs to last! But then I don't wanna be on my deathbed going, ohh man I should have got that Rotel 1580 MKII.

I would love to have Luxman stuff again...I used to sell the line that was available from our Alpine rep.

At almost 68 I also would like to be able to do the stuff I used to do, like carrying 200lb speakers (red oak over MDF with 15 inch woofers and internal sub enclosures) I built around 1987 up and down stairs myself and didn't think anything of it.

 

[Tankini]

I would love to have Luxman stuff again...I used to sell the line that was available from our Alpine rep.

At almost 68 I also would like to be able to do the stuff I used to do, like carrying 200lb speakers (red oak over MDF with 15 inch woofers and internal sub enclosures) I built around 1987 up and down stairs myself and didn't think anything of it.

So true now, Luxman is in the league of Pass Lab, awesome gear. Thank you for sharing this. You still on the East coast? I'm way down South. Out side of my Sons that have 5.1 and 7.2 setups no one I know has anything other than a TV and and maybe a blu-ray player and maybe a soundbar.

 

[isolar8001]

So true now, Luxman is in the league of Pass Lab, awesome gear. Thank you for sharing this. You still on the East coast? I'm way down South. Out side of my Sons that have 5.1 and 7.2 setups no one I know has anything other than a TV and and maybe a blu-ray player and maybe a soundbar.

Still Pittsburgh area.
Hi Fi nuts are a dying breed it seems....I have contact with no one anymore that does what all of us here do.
Phones have destroyed civilization !!

 

[bizzibee]

Which sucks because we know Yamaha has the resources to release new products every few years. Now is the time to get a new processor out.

I honesty think Yamaha must be going to wait until the HDMI 2.1 Chipsets fully support 48Gbps and without any issues or thermal problems. But I do hope they remove the tiny LCD screen and replace it with something larger on the new models. I really can't read the LCD display on our RX-A6A in our family room and I'm not sitting that far away from it. Have no issues reading the big display on our RX-A3080 in the Home Cinema room and the sitting positions are much further away. The tiny display is a fail in my opinion. Yes I am almost 63, and this was without my distance glasses....LOL

I also think I read somewhere that Yamaha stated that the RX-AxA & RX-VxA AVR Products would be long term products. Meaning there wouldn't be any annual model updates that we have come custom to. But do you think I can remember where I read this. The only thing I came remember was it related to the use of the Qualcomm. That being the single Qualcomm quad-core QCS407 with almost seven times the processing power of those in previous models.

I don't know the time context of Yamaha's statement that the RX-AxA & RX-VxA AVR Products would be long term products. But things may change over time. Yamaha initially intended to support QMS (Quick Media Switching) within the HDMI 2.1 specification. However, Yamaha later discovered that their new HDMI 2.1 AVR models cannot be updated to support QMS via firmware. That being due to an unforeseen hardware limitation caused by QMS specification change in HDMI 2.1a.

So Yamaha's release timetable for the RX-AxB & RX-VxB AVR Products may be brought forward because of the QMS. But I have a feeling they are just going to wait for HDMI 2.1 Chipsets to fully support 48Gbps without any issues.

I'm not sure Yamaha will ever support DIRAC. They have stated in the past that they only support YPOA, and that YPOA was tightly integrated into their Cinema DSP, and it is not possible to separate the two. I don't think this as directly in relation to DIRAC, but othering other Room Correction Systems apart from YPOA. I guess what they mean it would be too much work as they would have to start again. But they could if selecting DIRAC etc instead of YPOA disabled the use of their Cinema DSP. But perhaps they are not prepared to do that.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I honesty think Yamaha must be going to wait until the HDMI 2.1 Chipsets fully support 48Gbps and without any issues or thermal problems. But I do hope they remove the tiny LCD screen and replace it with something larger on the new models. I really can't read the LCD display on our RX-A6A in our family room and I'm not sitting that far away from it. Have no issues reading the big display on our RX-A3080 in the Home Cinema room and the sitting positions are much further away. The tiny display is a fail in my opinion. Yes I am almost 63, and this was without my distance glasses....LOL

I also think I read somewhere that Yamaha stated that the RX-AxA & RX-VxA AVR Products would be long term products. Meaning there wouldn't be any annual model updates that we have come custom to. But do you think I can remember where I read this. The only thing I came remember was it related to the use of the Qualcomm. That being the single Qualcomm quad-core QCS407 with almost seven times the processing power of those in previous models.

I don't know the time context of Yamaha's statement that the RX-AxA & RX-VxA AVR Products would be long term products. But things may change over time. Yamaha initially intended to support QMS (Quick Media Switching) within the HDMI 2.1 specification. However, Yamaha later discovered that their new HDMI 2.1 AVR models cannot be updated to support QMS via firmware. That being due to an unforeseen hardware limitation caused by QMS specification change in HDMI 2.1a.

So Yamaha's release timetable for the RX-AxB & RX-VxB AVR Products may be brought forward because of the QMS. But I have a feeling they are just going to wait for HDMI 2.1 Chipsets to fully support 48Gbps without any issues.

I'm not sure Yamaha will ever support DIRAC. They have stated in the past that they only support YPOA, and that YPOA was tightly integrated into their Cinema DSP, and it is not possible to separate the two. I don't think this as directly in relation to DIRAC, but othering other Room Correction Systems apart from YPOA. I guess what they mean it would be too much work as they would have to start again. But they could if selecting DIRAC etc instead of YPOA disabled the use of their Cinema DSP. But perhaps they are not prepared to do that.

Good point about waiting for HDMI 2.1 chipsets.

As for Dirac, I think they would consider it an insult to their own engineers if they went with Dirac over YPOA. So I just don’t see them going to Dirac either. But Yamaha is the largest sound company in the world, so they can do whatever they feel like doing - that includes surprising us.

 

[EBN]

Good point about waiting for HDMI 2.1 chipsets.

As for Dirac, I think they would consider it an insult to their own engineers if they went with Dirac over YPOA. So I just don’t see them going to Dirac either. But Yamaha is the largest sound company in the world, so they can do whatever they feel like doing - that includes surprising us.

As a dealer can you make few calls to Yamaha reps do they have any new products for us next month at Cedia/IFA? This silence is not good. At least 2020 RX-V and A2A models getting refreshed with 40Gbps hdmi boards.

@gene should do YT interview with Phil Shea what is the company`s future plans. AV-Processor was coming 2021, but maybe they went back to drawing board seeing competition with 15.4 units. YPAO isn´t exciting for expensive av-product as some affordable Onkyo & Pioneer comes with free DL already and Yamaha knows this. Many customers look information from internet/forums these days and room eq`s are hottest topic. YPAO won´t get any love. Phil Shea said something about Yamaha testing class-d amps in 2021. Hopefully we would see those sooner than later in full sized avr`s. You can fry eggs on top with some of these current 11ch units. Upcoming NAD T799 looks interesting. Until you see the price tag...

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

As a dealer can you make few calls to Yamaha reps do they have any new products for us next month at Cedia/IFA? This silence is not good. At least 2020 RX-V and A2A models getting refreshed with 40Gbps hdmi boards.

@gene should do YT interview with Phil Shea what is the company`s future plans. AV-Processor was coming 2021, but maybe they went back to drawing board seeing competition with 15.4 units. YPAO isn´t exciting for expensive av-product as some affordable Onkyo & Pioneer comes with free DL already and Yamaha knows this. Many customers look information from internet/forums these days and room eq`s are hottest topic. YPAO won´t get any love. Phil Shea said something about Yamaha testing class-d amps in 2021. Hopefully we would see those sooner than later in full sized avr`s. You can fry eggs on top with some of these current 11ch units. Upcoming NAD T799 looks interesting. Until you see the price tag...

Nobody knows anything.

All powerful King Yamaha not spilling any beans to smallfolk.

 

[EBN]

Nobody knows anything.

All powerful King Yamaha not spilling any beans to smallfolk.

So annoying! Leak something and get the hype train going Yamaha!

I noticed this at AVSForum. I don´t live at States, but i hope this would mean something new is behind the corner! Please don´t say this type of sale is usual for Aventage models.

Adorama has the Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A8A 11.2-Channel AV Receiver with MusicCast on sale for $3000 - $1400 off with coupon code AUGU0924 in cart = $1600 with free shipping. Was $3,500.00 USD. 54% saving.

 

[PacketofCrisps]

Is it worth using a seperate streamer and dac for streaming over what the A4A offers onboard, I have a spare chord mojo 2 DAC, just need a streamer, any recommendations?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Is it worth using a seperate streamer and dac for streaming over what the A4A offers onboard, I have a spare chord mojo 2 DAC, just need a streamer, any recommendations?

It’s not going to sound any better using a separate streamer/DAC.

Probably won’t sound any WORSE either.

So total waste of money and time IMO.

 

[Trell]

It’s not going to sound any better using a separate streamer/DAC.

Probably won’t sound any WORSE either.

So total waste of money and time IMO.

For sound quality probably so, but an external steamer could have better features or interface.

 

[Snowbird#6]

New to this discussion and have a question. My 6 month old A6A is doing something I can’t quite figure out! With my Xfinity and Apple TV hooked up, I can see and hear the subwoofer working (7.1) With my Panasonic UHD blu-ray on, and depending on the disc being played, some discs show the sub on, some show it off?! For example, when I load the Eric Clapton UHD disc, the preview to the disc has the sub working, but when I select a song and play it, the sub turns off. The copy of the Christmas Vacation in UHD, the sub is on the whole time, however, Wonderful Life UHD, sub off (while reading the disc, the sub was on). Any ideas?

 

[everettT]

New to this discussion and have a question. My 6 month old A6A is doing something I can’t quite figure out! With my Xfinity and Apple TV hooked up, I can see and hear the subwoofer working (7.1) With my Panasonic UHD blu-ray on, and depending on the disc being played, some discs show the sub on, some show it off?! For example, when I load the Eric Clapton UHD disc, the preview to the disc has the sub working, but when I select a song and play it, the sub turns off. The copy of the Christmas Vacation in UHD, the sub is on the whole time, however, Wonderful Life UHD, sub off (while reading the disc, the sub was on). Any ideas?

Is the sub off or does it just not show on the display? It's a Wonderful Life was originally mono audio so have no idea how it's remastered.

 

[Snowbird#6]

Is the sub off or does it just not show on the display? It's a Wonderful Life was originally mono audio so have no idea how it's remastered.

Sub is on (I may be new to this forum, I’m not new to entertainment equipment). As I mentioned, sometimes the display shows the sub on (when the disc is loading), and then once loaded, the sub display is off. This does not occur on all discs, or all formats.

 

[everettT]

Sub is on (I may be new to this forum, I’m not new to entertainment equipment). As I mentioned, sometimes the display shows the sub on (when the disc is loading), and then once loaded, the sub display is off. This does not occur on all discs, or all formats.

If there isn't a .lfe track I'd imagine the sub light wouldn't light up as it is getting the full range signal

 

[Trebdp83]

Video discs can have various signals on them. A feature may have a 1.0 mono track with messages or previews with 2.0 or 5.1 tracks.

Concert discs may contain a 2.0 track as well as multichannel Dolby, DTS or PCM tracks. If playing a 2.0 track in Pure Direct mode using a Yamaha receiver, there will be no signal output to the subwoofer. Switch to Straight mode and the 2.0 signal will be bass managed and the subwoofer will be active.

 

[Snowbird#6]

Video discs can have various signals on them. A feature may have a 1.0 mono track with messages or previews with 2.0 or 5.1 tracks.

Concert discs may contain a 2.0 track as well as multichannel Dolby, DTS or PCM tracks. If playing a 2.0 track in Pure Direct mode using a Yamaha receiver, there will be no signal output to the subwoofer. Switch to Straight mode and the 2.0 signal will be bass managed and the subwoofer will be active.

Thank You. I’ll give that a try and let you know the results. Cheers

 

[Snowbird#6]

Video discs can have various signals on them. A feature may have a 1.0 mono track with messages or previews with 2.0 or 5.1 tracks.

Concert discs may contain a 2.0 track as well as multichannel Dolby, DTS or PCM tracks. If playing a 2.0 track in Pure Direct mode using a Yamaha receiver, there will be no signal output to the subwoofer. Switch to Straight mode and the 2.0 signal will be bass managed and the subwoofer will be active.

BINGO!! Great recommendation, that did the trick.

 

[Trebdp83]

Joy!