That Sour and bitter drink

ryanosaur

ryanosaur

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I believe the candy is where the name came from for that drink because that was in the image when I looked it up. I had it before in the midwest somewhere, Michicgan, St. Louis or Chicago I forget, and it was good.

It seems there is another, simpler one called the Cafe Toledo, which is coffee, coffee liqueur, Baileys and chocolate syrup w/whipped cream.
I think the throw-up in my mouth just threw up in my mouth.

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j_garcia

j_garcia

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I think the throw-up in my mouth just threw up in my mouth.

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It was something to try. We joked about it, like drinking coffee after getting messed up in order to wake up, except already in one cup. Some comedian had that in his bit: "Do you REALLY want people buzzed AND wide awake?"

Back to coffee. These guys use my favorite beans and looks like they've opened up a few spots in Vegas. Even when I was in Oahu though, they only sold ground, not whole bean. I still bought it because that is my favorite coffee = Wialua Estate dark roast. I don't think they use the natural process version, which Wialua only make in small batches, but it still tastes amazing. I bought some when I was there a few months back and have since run out.



Whole bean cost from Wialua Estate isn't so bad, but shipping from Hawaii is the killer.
 
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cpp

cpp

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Anybody who roasts their own beans is one step away from prepping H for the needle! :p

I like good espresso and am a trained barista. :) No goat sacrifice involved, no virgin's blood... :eek:

Let's face it, though.

We humans are great at ritualizing just about anything. ;)
That's for sure. I had thought about roasting, but heck, I can get my 2 day old roast in 2 days. Plus if its not "right" I call and they mail me another 1lb bag of freshly roasted beans. If I roasted and screwed it up at home, Well, I'm kinda out some beans LOL. Plus to be honest, at my age I'm too darn lazy.
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

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Well, I've been playing with it since the conversation the other day, spritzing my beans.

:rolleyes:

I think I may be a convert.

Single biggest change I noticed is in extraction. The Espresso is pulling nicer, with a richer flavor and mouthfeel. Visibly, my shots have always had good crema, yet now this manifests even more.

Yes, visually there is less clumping in my grind. It does not seem neater or les messy, though. More than anything, my grind has a much more "fluffy" character to it, and even though I do everything by weight my basket now runneth over.

A strange experience I'm having is that this also seems to affect the retention of my grinder. I am consistently getting more out than I put in. :oops: I do my grinder maintenance on the 1st, so after cleaning later this week, I'll have a better sense of what is happening in that area. Ordinarily, there is 3g of retention living in my grinder. If I continue to get .2-.5g overages, I would expect my grinder retention to drop to 0 and not have to clean it ever again! *scratches head quizzically ;)

*shrugs

Regardless, the shot quality is my primary thing. I don't know how many poor to mediocre shots I've tolerated over the years, both at home or at cafes, but this little experiment has tipped the scale pretty consistently in favor of flavor. In fact today, day 5 of this experiment, is the first day I've had a mediocre pull. And by mediocre, telling a Barista in the cafe that you want them to redo this shot would start an argument! :p , as it is still a very decent shot.

So that's my 5-day follow up.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
in another coffee discussion over on Audiocircle this roaster came up and as a Sumatra fan, while not cheap I think I'll give it a try............

Keep us posted- I think I posted that I started drinking Sumatra in 2014, in Prescott, AZ. Still on it unless the store is out, so I'll go with Guatamalan or Columbian, which are decent, as a change. I still prefer Sumatra, though.

Power went out two weeks ago because of a storm and I was able to have my coffee because I make 12 cups, so it was left over from the day before. I woke at 3AM, got out of bed at 4 and warmed it on the stove- I don't think I would have been a happy camper without it but overall, the storm and its effects didn't bother me.
 

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ryanosaur

ryanosaur

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Didn't get to clean my grinder and machine til yesterday.

Today is Day 12 of my Spritzing Experiment, Day 1 on a clean grinder.

I always do a sacrificial first shot just to make certain no cleaning residue is left behind. (Urnex Grindz is pretty innocuous and doesn't seem to hang out in the grinder afterwards, but Cafiza does like to leave a residue and while I rinse everything pretty thoroughly it is good practice to toss the first shot, jic.)

I know my grinder has 3g retention in the grind chamber when I don't spritz the beans. I always load 23g for this first shot.

Spritzing the beans with water resulted in only 1.8g retention on the first pass instead of the unspritzed 3g I am used to.

First Dose: 23g in, whole bean, 21.2g out, ground
Second Dose: 20g in, 20.8 out
Third Dose: 20g in, 20.3 out
Fourth Dose: 20g in, 20.6 out

Of that initial 1.8g retained in the grind chamber, after finishing 3 more shots, by weight I only should have .1g retention!
Before spritzing the beans, that initial 3g retention stayed there: whatever I put in, I got out.

In terms of the grinder mechanism and Burrs, the Spritzed Beans showed no unusual changes that I noticed when cleaning. No abnormal buildup was evidenced. My thought was perhaps the addition of some moisture could interact with the oils and fines to create an emulsion that might cake up in some parts of the chamber. I saw no evidence that this occurred.
To the contrary, by the end of today's Espresso Ritual, my grinder is surprisingly light on the retention of ground coffee left in the mechanism.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
I should have some this week, will do !
Before I was actually a 'coffee drinker' and worked for the stereo store I have mentioned, the previous time I had a cup was in about '81, when we had a huge sale at WI State Fair Park in one of the buildings, combined with a TV store. It was early and ridiculously cold inside because the heat hadn't kicked in and everyone was a bit rough from the night before. They made coffee and all we had was tin cups, so it went from nice & hot to stone cold in minutes and my second sip was the end of that. Also, it was some crap that came in a 3 pound can, so how good could it be, really?

I can drink Sumatra cold- it tastes just fine.
 
Mikado463

Mikado463

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Bringing the 'coffee discussion' back where it belongs...........

Dude, remember this, folks that load up the 'coffee' with creamers are NOT coffee drinkers. Kinda in the same vein that those that drink 'light' beer are NOT beer drinkers !
 
Trell

Trell

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Bringing the 'coffee discussion' back where it belongs...........

Dude, remember this, folks that load up the 'coffee' with creamers are NOT coffee drinkers. Kinda in the same vein that those that drink 'light' beer are NOT beer drinkers !
Yeah, more like cream with a touch of coffee.
 
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Tankini

Senior Audioholic
Bringing the 'coffee discussion' back where it belongs...........

Dude, remember this, folks that load up the 'coffee' with creamers are NOT coffee drinkers. Kinda in the same vein that those that drink 'light' beer are NOT beer drinkers !
Well, some would say your correct about your statement. Since beer and coffee drinkers are very subjective, curious folks. Lager drinker am now, quite some time now. I found it to be, well Traditional!.;) Num, num num num. You know what they say, num num num num. :)

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Mikado463

Mikado463

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Ok 'Tank', so you like Yuengling, question, what did they produce during prohibition ?
 
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Tankini

Senior Audioholic
Ok 'Tank', so you like Yuengling, question, what did they produce during prohibition ?
Mike, it was given to me yesterday as in, a free beer. I know You, know of much better Real beers.
I don't drink beer much anymore, can't really, medication doesn't mix.,had been over a year + since before that one. My Son's came over yesterday to help me out removing and installing two 65" inch TV's. Anyway one of my Sons jetted to a local store came home with three of those. Was tasty finished about three quarters of it. My reply was messing around mate. Wish I could still have a few every now and then.

Mike, you know I don't know much about real beers, I was misled most of my drinking days. Now my father would definitely agree with your comment about light beer drinkers not being real beer drinkers. Got any recommendations? I did find that Lager to be tasty though, definitely has a much better taste than light beer.

Oh! Prohibition? talking about Al Capone days?
 
Mikado463

Mikado463

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Mike, it was given to me yesterday as in, a free beer. I know You, know of much better Real beers.
I don't drink beer much anymore, can't really, medication doesn't mix.,had been over a year + since before that one. My Son's came over yesterday to help me out removing and installing two 65" inch TV's. Anyway one of my Sons jetted to a local store came home with three of those. Was tasty finished about three quarters of it. My reply was messing around mate. Wish I could still have a few every now and then.

Mike, you know I don't know much about real beers, I was misled most of my drinking days. Now my father would definitely agree with your comment about light beer drinkers not being real beer drinkers. Got any recommendations? I did find that Lager to be tasty though, definitely had a much better taste than light beer.

Oh! Prohibition? talking about Al Capone days?
Tank, I'm not a beer drinker, sorry. Whisky is my preferred medication.

As for my trivia question on what Yuengling produced during prohibition.............. ice cream.
 
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Tankini

Senior Audioholic
Tank, I'm not a beer drinker, sorry. Whisky is my preferred medication.

As for my trivia question on what Yuengling produced during prohibition.............. ice cream.
Mike, I didn't see that one coming ice cream. Dr put me put me on Ozempic little over a year ago but I quit drinking way before that because of other certain medications. Loved me a few Tasty shots of bourbon every now and then mixed with my beer drinking days. But yeah a very big no Alcohol mix with Ozempic.
 
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MrBoat

Audioholic Ninja
Bringing the 'coffee discussion' back where it belongs...........

Dude, remember this, folks that load up the 'coffee' with creamers are NOT coffee drinkers. Kinda in the same vein that those that drink 'light' beer are NOT beer drinkers !
And people who add jelly to their peanut butter sandwiches, cheese to their burgers, butter to their toast, or any combined foods are what, exactly? When I make coffee, I take a hit of it black, then add creamer and hit that and then add sugar to the rest. There are no absolutes.

Just don't get caught adding salt and pepper to your steak. . . because it certainly doesn't come with any on it's own. :)
 

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