New power amp time

[mono-bloc]

And so my next decision is, would Balanced XLR cables between the two NAD's make a difference vs quality RCA cables

The short answer to your question is NO.. Just stick with the RCA cables, and don't pay crazy money for them. A cable is a cable is a cable.

Originally XLR connections for audio was designed for a link between the Pre-amp and the Power amp, where the Power amp was located
close to the speakers and a distance from the pre-amp. Unless your doing that there is little justification in the added cost of XLR cables

 

[lovinthehd]

As to the rca vs xlr cables, mostly about length as was said, in a home use not a concern in most cases....and since you already have the rca cables, I'd just use them.

 

[Trebdp83]

Enjoy the new amp! You know you want XLR cables that click securely into place. Get em'!

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=18673

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

And so my next decision is, would Balanced XLR cables between the two NAD's make a difference vs quality RCA cables.

XLR cables make some people FEEL much better.

I think it’s the clicking-locking sound they make.

Yeah, all my cables on my AVP-AMP are XLR cables.

 

[Verdinut]

XLR cables make some people FEEL much better.

I think it’s the clicking-locking sound they make.

Yeah, all my cables on my AVP-AMP are XLR cables.

Yeah, the XLR connectors make a more secure connection than the RCA type.

It's the same argument for SpeakOn speaker connectors compared to banana plugs. I use these on my three front speakers.

 

[Golfx]

I'm sorry don't agree with you, While everyone has there own opinion, on these excuses for class "D" amp's, They just don't come up to my expectations for audio amplification. I've tried Some of the established brands Mola Mola and Bel Canto are very good and not to be de-valued simple because there Class D. But the newly introduced Hypex and Purifi models fall very short on established class D brands. There simply cheap copies and really only lack a key wind to get them going, with there over inflated claims of over inflated power out puts.. And while it reads very well very few people buying this rubbish have quality speakers, to test there capability's Try a pair of Equinox Jupiters rated at two ohms and watch them self destruct, or a pair of Magnepan -magneplanar panel speakers An epic fail will be the outcome. Unyet they quote outrageous claims of what there capable off... And the guable buyer visits Amazon, and other box sellers of this crap, and scoop them up as if there's no tomorrow.
Ask your self why is it that people on established audio forums the likes of AS and WBF, avoid this stuff like the plague.

Huh, rubbish huh? Gee and yet I read the bench measurements over at ASR. Math of the bench measurements seem pretty compelling and well supported. Versus just your adjectives.

 

[mono-bloc]

Huh, rubbish huh? Gee and yet I read the bench measurements over at ASR.

Good luck to you, Anyone who visits that nut house deserves all the help they can get. Measurements have no relationship to the final sound of your speakers. Or do you sit there and wait for a measurement to reveal it'self . So you can justify all your research into products you have no hope of owning

 

[lovinthehd]

Ah, blockhead, you are just full of it as usual. The funny thing about about Mola Mola is that it uses Hypex modules....and the Bel Canto the lesser ICE modules. You probably don't understand much about audio, so understandable why ASR frightens you.

 

[Mikado463]

Measurements have no relationship to the final sound of your speakers.

WOW, thanks for coming on a public forum and clearly demonstrating to all of us that you are completely clueless.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Measurements have no relationship to the final sound of your speakers.

Are you saying that even if a speaker has a FR of 100Hz-10kHz +/- 30dB that it can still sound great?

Or just saying that speakers don’t need to have the best measurements to sound great?

 

[Verdinut]

Originally XLR connections for audio was designed for a link between the Pre-amp and the Power amp, where the Power amp was located
close to the speakers and a distance from the pre-amp.

That is inexact. XLR connections were not originally designed for home use. Refer to post #20 above.

 

[DigitalDawn]

ATI 1822. Fantastic amp, fantastic company. 7 year warranty.

 

[ban25]

Both are solid products. I have seen a report of a significant (+/- 3 dB) balance mismatch in level between the left and right channels of the RB-1582 MKII, so if you ended up with that one, I recommend testing it to make sure you have a good copy.

 

[MrBoat]

I'd still get the Carver rebuilt/updated, regardless of what new amp you buy.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Both are solid products. I have seen a report of a significant (+/- 3 dB) balance mismatch in level between the left and right channels of the RB-1582 MKII, so if you ended up with that one, I recommend testing it to make sure you have a good copy.

Gotta be a malfunction.

FYI, I see that Rotel, NAD, and Arcam are made in China, Anthem are made in Canada. ATI-made amps, McIntosh, and Mark Levinson are made in USA.

 

[PENG]

And so my next decision is, would Balanced XLR cables between the two NAD's make a difference vs quality RCA cables. Since I had not bought a new stereo component since I got my old ADCOM preamp around 1990, Or perhaps the Denon CDR-W1500 dual well CD player/recorder around 2001, these "New" huge cables vs RCA are brand new to me.

I guess I'll search this forum for discussion on these balanced cables/in-outs.

If your preamp has both RCA and XLR outputs, it is better to use XLR regardless. I don't know which Adcom preamp you have, but I don't recall any of them have balanced outputs.

If for short lengths, balanced output may have the advantage because you get two times the voltage vs the unbalanced outputs. That would benefit a lot of Hypex or Purifi modules based power amps that may have relative lower gains (so the 2X voltage will help).

 

[crazyfingers]

I'd still get the Carver rebuilt/updated, regardless of what new amp you buy.

Makes me wonder who would know how to fix it.

I don't really have a use for it for the foreseeable future. I don't know if the cost to repair would be worth the resale price.

There is the remote possibility that I'd want to some day attach a Sub to my system but probably not until some day my Allison Three's die. They already have 10" woofers and in the room corners create nice bass.

Is there a use that you think it would be suited for?

It would be nice if it was 100% but it would just sit there looking cute.

 

[crazyfingers]

Adcom preamp you have, but I don't recall any of them have balanced outputs.

It doesn't. I got the ADCOM GTP-500 around 1990. I don't know when the XLR cables came out but it doesn't have them.

 

[ryanosaur]

I don't know when the XLR cables came out but it doesn't have them.

The Cannon plug dates back to the '20s with the "modern" XLR from the mid 50's IIRC.

 

[lovinthehd]

Makes me wonder who would know how to fix it.

I don't really have a use for it for the foreseeable future. I don't know if the cost to repair would be worth the resale price.

There is the remote possibility that I'd want to some day attach a Sub to my system but probably not until some day my Allison Three's die. They already have 10" woofers and in the room corners create nice bass.

Is there a use that you think it would be suited for?

It would be nice if it was 100% but it would just sit there looking cute.

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Carver still has service available in Washington, and there's the services of the folk at Carversite! and there's Nelion too. I'm considering Carver primarily because it's not that bad a drive for me....but the Carversite "upgrade" is appealing. From what I've seen of used prices, especially rebuilt/serviced, it's likely worth the expense.