Perlisten R7t Floor-Standing Loudspeaker Review

[RajkumarIlanchelian]

Are you talking about LCR being R series as well? There is quite a difference in capability between the S series and R series for LCR use. The S series really shines in a small room as well. That said any move to Perlisten will be an upgrade for you.

Right. I was asking for the LCR as well in R series. Still want to go S series but with room and listening volumes just want to get the opinion of S series for LCR would be an over kill.

Thank you for your input.


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[ryanosaur]

opinion of S series for LCR would be an over kill.

I think this is a personal values decision. By all accounts the R Series is very capable... and the percent improvement stepping up to the S Series is not necessarily equivalent to the monetary cost (as those of us who would be ecstatic with a set of Speakers costing just the difference between those L/R Speakers alone might find value in). We've had many a thread where the conversation has centered on the point of diminishing returns.
I'm not suggesting that there isn't some value to the S Series... let's face it, the reviews alone show there is a value to them...
*shrugs
Maybe it's not much help, but I think you really just have to have that honest conversation with yourself about whether you will be happy with just the Rs, or will you find yourself longing for the Ss... always wondering what if? And that's just not something I think anyone hear but you can answer.

 

[RajkumarIlanchelian]

I think this is a personal values decision. By all accounts the R Series is very capable... and the percent improvement stepping up to the S Series is not necessarily equivalent to the monetary cost (as those of us who would be ecstatic with a set of Speakers costing just the difference between those L/R Speakers alone might find value in). We've had many a thread where the conversation has centered on the point of diminishing returns.
I'm not suggesting that there isn't some value to the S Series... let's face it, the reviews alone show there is a value to them...
*shrugs
Maybe it's not much help, but I think you really just have to have that honest conversation with yourself about whether you will be happy with just the Rs, or will you find yourself longing for the Ss... always wondering what if? And that's just not something I think anyone hear but you can answer.

Fair enough and I think I completely understand what you are saying here . Thank you for taking the time.


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[xrqp]

Thanks for the excellent review, shadyJ !

RE: The Controlled Vertical Dispersion (CVD)
From your technical measurements you concluded the good CVD should lessen the need for room acoustic treatments. In your subjective listening did you feel that was confirmed?

Can you add how it compared to other similarly high quality speakers that did not have such good CVD?

When I play my current system loud, sometimes the highs get harsh, and I am guessing it is from ceiling reflections, so I am very interested in this subject. Thanks.

 

[Eppie]

Right. I was asking for the LCR as well in R series. Still want to go S series but with room and listening volumes just want to get the opinion of S series for LCR would be an over kill.

Thank you for your input.

Have you tried contacting Perlisten directly? They are a good company and would give an honest answer. If the main difference is dynamic range, the R series could be enough but there may be other factors. Supply as much info as you can as to room size and dimensions and the other gear you have.

 

[RajkumarIlanchelian]

Have you tried contacting Perlisten directly? They are a good company and would give an honest answer. If the main difference is dynamic range, the R series could be enough but there may be other factors. Supply as much info as you can as to room size and dimensions and the other gear you have.

Thank you. This is a good idea. Did not think about it. Let me reach out to them.


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[shadyJ]

Thanks for the excellent review, shadyJ !

RE: The Controlled Vertical Dispersion (CVD)
From your technical measurements you concluded the good CVD should lessen the need for room acoustic treatments. In your subjective listening did you feel that was confirmed?

Can you add how it compared to other similarly high quality speakers that did not have such good CVD?

When I play my current system loud, sometimes the highs get harsh, and I am guessing it is from ceiling reflections, so I am very interested in this subject. Thanks.

My room doesn't get much vertical reflections, so it doesn't serve as a good basis for comparison in that respect. If your treble is harsh, it's probably not ceiling reflections that is the cause. But you can't know for sure without acoustic measurements.

 

[xrqp]

My room doesn't get much vertical reflections, so it doesn't serve as a good basis for comparison in that respect...

Is it correct to say that you think well controlled vertical dispersion could be a significant good thing for some rooms, but not very significant in your particular room?

Your review said "I would expect it to behave much like the S7t where the DPC array greatly reduces output above and below 25 to 30 degrees on the vertical axis. That means there will be very few acoustic reflections from vertical surfaces, so again, this is a speaker that negates the need for acoustic treatments..."
Where you wrote "vertical surfaces" I think you meant the ceiling and floor horizontal surfaces. Prior to reading this, I was thinking I could benefit with ceiling treatment, but hopefully it is less needed, or not needed, with these R7T or S7T.

 

[shadyJ]

Is it correct to say that you think well controlled vertical dispersion could be a significant good thing for some rooms, but not very significant in your particular room?

Your review said "I would expect it to behave much like the S7t where the DPC array greatly reduces output above and below 25 to 30 degrees on the vertical axis. That means there will be very few acoustic reflections from vertical surfaces, so again, this is a speaker that negates the need for acoustic treatments..."
Where you wrote "vertical surfaces" I think you meant the ceiling and floor horizontal surfaces. Prior to reading this, I was thinking I could benefit with ceiling treatment, but hopefully it is less needed, or not needed, with these R7T or S7T.

Yes, if your room has hard and smooth floors and ceilings, these are good speakers for that kind of acoustic situation. The reflections from floors and ceilings with be much less than with conventional designs.

 

[ghn521]

@shadyJ In the market for some towers for HT. Room dimensions are 18' x 14' x 8'. About 14' from the listening position. Will the S5t be enough? Will be using a subwoofer for sure.

Does the S7t have better/wider vertical dispersion than the S5t's vertical dispersion?

 

[shadyJ]

@shadyJ In the market for some towers for HT. Room dimensions are 18' x 14' x 8'. About 14' from the listening position. Will the S5t be enough? Will be using a subwoofer for sure.

Does the S7t have better/wider vertical dispersion than the S5t's vertical dispersion?

I think the S5t would easily be enough for a room of those dimensions.

By comparison, the S7t wouldn't have wider vertical dispersion, it would just have more controlled vertical dispersion at lower frequencies, namely the upper bass band.

 

[xrqp]

What I'm really missing in this review are the distortion measurements.

I miss them too. But i bought the speakers anyway. I was disappointed that they distorted when I fed them full range music and tried to play as loud as my similar towers (Focal 1027be, which were $2.5k used). My listening room is only 18x13x8.5 (feet), and my amp had plenty of clean power. The limit used to be my hearing pain, but now the limit is the R7T's. When they go into distortion it gets very bad very fast (not a gradual increase in distortion as volume rises slowly).

I need to either: 1) Accept I cannot go extremely loud or 2) Use bass management and subs.

I do not regret buying them, but I wish they had more bass output without distorting. Eventually I will have bass management and a powerful amp, but I never had both yet.

The S7T review was more thorough than the R7T, but obviously more time consuming to do. After the New Record Day YouTube review, and with the price diff, I think they will sell more R7T than S7T by a factor of 4 times or more.

 

[Mikado463]

I miss them too. But i bought the speakers anyway. I was disappointed that they distorted when I fed them full range music and tried to play as loud as my similar towers (Focal 1027be, which were $2.5k used). My listening room is only 18x13x8.5 (feet), and my amp had plenty of clean power. The limit used to be my hearing pain, but now the limit is the R7T's. When they go into distortion it gets very bad very fast (not a gradual increase in distortion as volume rises slowly).

I need to either: 1) Accept I cannot go extremely loud or 2) Use bass management and subs.

I do not regret buying them, but I wish they had more bass output without distorting. Eventually I will have bass management and a powerful amp, but I never had both yet.

The S7T review was more thorough than the R7T, but obviously more time consuming to do. After the New Record Day YouTube review, and with the price diff, I think they will sell more R7T than S7T by a factor of 4 times or more.

your 'limit' was your hearing pain ? Brilliant kid............

 

[highfigh]

I think you asked the question the wrong way round. Why is there are some many companies that make mediocre and even awful speakers? As they say, this is not "rocket science" by a long shot.

Those are clearly very good speakers, with excellent phase alignment.

It's not rocket science but anyone who ignores the science that's involved can only build good speakers by coincidence or luck.

I think too many companies made their best speakers early on and coasted as time passed.

 

[highfigh]

I miss them too. But i bought the speakers anyway. I was disappointed that they distorted when I fed them full range music and tried to play as loud as my similar towers (Focal 1027be, which were $2.5k used). My listening room is only 18x13x8.5 (feet), and my amp had plenty of clean power. The limit used to be my hearing pain, but now the limit is the R7T's. When they go into distortion it gets very bad very fast (not a gradual increase in distortion as volume rises slowly).

I need to either: 1) Accept I cannot go extremely loud or 2) Use bass management and subs.

I do not regret buying them, but I wish they had more bass output without distorting. Eventually I will have bass management and a powerful amp, but I never had both yet.

The S7T review was more thorough than the R7T, but obviously more time consuming to do. After the New Record Day YouTube review, and with the price diff, I think they will sell more R7T than S7T by a factor of 4 times or more.

If you're driving your system into distortion, you need to change the system. Proper system design involves determining ALL of the requirements, parameters of the equipment and room, and this includes max SPL. This, however, doesn't take into account the possibility or fact that someone will operate it in an abusive way, for the equipment or themselves and that means If your ears hurt because of the SPL, turn it the Eff down!

You don't seem to understand that hearing becomes worse as we age and that decline speeds up when we abuse our ears. Hearing damage can't be reversed and hearing aids aren't capable of restoring hearing to its original capability.

If you want more loudness and bass, you don't need a home stereo, you need a PA system.

 

[everettT]

I miss them too. But i bought the speakers anyway. I was disappointed that they distorted when I fed them full range music and tried to play as loud as my similar towers (Focal 1027be, which were $2.5k used). My listening room is only 18x13x8.5 (feet), and my amp had plenty of clean power. The limit used to be my hearing pain, but now the limit is the R7T's. When they go into distortion it gets very bad very fast (not a gradual increase in distortion as volume rises slowly).

I need to either: 1) Accept I cannot go extremely loud or 2) Use bass management and subs.

I do not regret buying them, but I wish they had more bass output without distorting. Eventually I will have bass management and a powerful amp, but I never had both yet.

The S7T review was more thorough than the R7T, but obviously more time consuming to do. After the New Record Day YouTube review, and with the price diff, I think they will sell more R7T than S7T by a factor of 4 times or more.

I'm not sure which way you're running them, but the distortion numbers from the manufacturer at 116db from 100hz and up is low and in order to meet the THX spec they have to be. I find it hard to believe that the Focals out perform them.

Their data was taken from a Klippel so I'd trust it.

 

[shadyJ]

I'm not sure which way you're running them, but the distortion numbers from the manufacturer at 116db from 100hz and up is low and in order to meet the THX spec they have to be. I find it hard to believe that the Focals out perform them.


Their data was taken from a Klippel so I'd trust it.

+1 this. There is no way the Focals have greater dynamic range than the Perlistens. I have to wonder if the amp isn't clipping?

 

[jimmyjames8]

Where are they made?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Where are they made?

I think Perlisten are made in China.

 

[cpp]

I think Perlisten are made in China.

yep, Dongguan City