Ukraine – Russia … not more of the last thread

haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
❌ Ukrainians call for boycott of the Red Cross

The International Committee of the Red Cross has admitted that it facilitated the deportation of Ukrainians to Russia.


The Red Cross wrote about this in its public report. Moreover, the Red Cross plans to open a center for Ukrainians in Rostov, Russia.

‼ Ukrainians announced a boycott of the Red Cross, which in fact turned into Russian collaborators. Ukraine is urging not to pay them another penny, demanding the dismissal of Peter Maurer, President of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC).

It's hard to believe, but this international movement, which has existed for more than a century and has 97 million volunteers, is indulging in Russia's bloody war against Ukraine.




What is going on? Read here: TSN.ua
 
M

Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
I had a Ukrainian uncle who survived WW2. I spent a lot of time listening to his personal history. FWIW take my post with a grain of salt.
Did your uncle ever talk about the famine Stalin caused in the Ukraine? This does not seem to get a lot of attention here in the U.S., but I have to believe it made a lasting impression on the people there.

>>>At the height of the 1932-33 Ukrainian famine under Joseph Stalin, starving people roamed the countryside, desperate for something, anything to eat. In the village of Stavyshche, a young peasant boy watched as the wanderers dug into empty gardens with their bare hands. Many were so emaciated, he recalled, that their bodies began to swell and stink from the extreme lack of nutrients. . . .

The Ukrainian famine—known as the Holodomor, a combination of the Ukrainian words for “starvation” and “to inflict death”—by one estimate claimed the lives of 3.9 million people, about 13 percent of the population. And, unlike other famines in history caused by blight or drought, this was caused when a dictator wanted both to replace Ukraine’s small farms with state-run collectives and punish independence-minded Ukrainians who posed a threat to his totalitarian authority. . . .

Ultimately, although Stalin’s policies resulted in the deaths of millions, it failed to crush Ukrainian aspirations for autonomy, and in the long run, they may actually have backfired. “Famine often achieves a socio-economic or military purpose, such as transferring land possession or clearing an area of population, since most flee rather than die,” famine historian de Waal says. “But politically and ideologically it is more often counterproductive for its perpetrators. As in the case of Ukraine it generated so much hatred and resentment that it solidified Ukrainian nationalism.”

Eventually, when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, Ukraine finally became an independent nation—and the Holodomor remains a painful part of Ukrainians’ common identity. <<<


 
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

Audioholic Spartan
❌ Ukrainians call for boycott of the Red Cross

The International Committee of the Red Cross has admitted that it facilitated the deportation of Ukrainians to Russia.


The Red Cross wrote about this in its public report. Moreover, the Red Cross plans to open a center for Ukrainians in Rostov, Russia.

‼ Ukrainians announced a boycott of the Red Cross, which in fact turned into Russian collaborators. Ukraine is urging not to pay them another penny, demanding the dismissal of Peter Maurer, President of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC).

It's hard to believe, but this international movement, which has existed for more than a century and has 97 million volunteers, is indulging in Russia's bloody war against Ukraine.




What is going on? Read here: TSN.ua
(36) Red Cross rejects claims it's deporting Ukrainians to Russia (cnn.com)
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Biden is not going to put the US into a war he can't win. Any war with a superpower is a no win for all involved.
Intentionally, maybe not, but his mouth runs a bit and people have to smooth things over afterward.

How many wars are a win, really?
 
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

Audioholic Spartan
assurances well equal sanctions. It appears to be working.
Sanctions take time to work though and they aren't severe enough right now. In the meantime, Russia continues to pulverize Ukraine with artillery, bombs and missiles. There should be a total boycott of Russian oil and gas, except western European countries made a Faustian bargain in making themselves so dependent on Russia.
 
cpp

cpp

Audioholic Ninja
How many wars are a win, really?
No wars are a win, someone loses, women and children killed, families destroyed, towns wiped off the face of the earth. War is pure hell, until you lived it, a lot of people have no clue what they wish for. These days with superpowers with nukes the end result driven by some egomaniac to push the button to start it, is not pleasant.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
Voice from history on Russia and hopes for regime change:

George Kennan, the money quote:

“Of one thing we may be sure: No great and enduring change in the spirit and practice of government in Russia will ever come about primarily through foreign inspiration or advice. To be genuine, to be enduring and to be worth the hopeful welcome of other peoples such a change would have to flow from the initiative and efforts of the Russians themselves.”

 
haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
The Russian aviation regulator goes back to paper after experiencing a massive cyber attack on March 26 by the hacker group Anonymous, which wiped out all data from the agency.

This was reported by Russian media, citing its own sources.

Although with those paper prices they could already write on rubles ‍♀

source: Telegram channel: Ukraine NOw
 
haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
Last edited:
haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
My apologies if I am going completely overboard sometimes, but this is situation.....

I have family in Donbass that are scared to death 24/7, they don´t sleep at night due to the fear of planes and rockets coming at night that will kill them all.... there are countless air alarms every day, rockets passing continuously over their houses.... I am hearing about hese situations every day first hand on the phone, people being killed, machine gun fire at people standing in que to get food, a 14 year old girl shot in the face and killed while her mother was next to her, the madness goes on-and-on-and-on ......

Their life is outside Donetsk, they built a lifetime of a farm there, impossible to sell because it is now worthless and on-one is going to but this, what to do, they can throw away everything they ever did in a lifetime, go somewhere else and start, with zero money, zero anything .....

Friends in Zaporizhzhia, regularly if there is talk on phone they got to run and/or switch phone off.... she can´t escape or leave the city because her mother i s very ill and so she has to stay put to watch over her sick mother ....

All this due to a completely out-of-this world crazy russian that decided to flatten a country to the gound probably because he just wants to get hold of the oil and gas resources of Ukraine.

Sorry guys, but impossible to keep calm in these situations!
 
Last edited:
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

Audioholic Spartan
hmm, not sure what to believe….. thousands of Ukrainians are deported illegally…. and I know this as a fact first hand (friends of family being deported by force to russia)

Ukrainians are deported to russia and when they try to go back to Ukraine they are refused by russians claiming they lack necessary visa to go to Ukraine (Donbass)

F#CK RUSSIA, F#CK RUSSIANS
I don't doubt that the Russians are deporting Ukranians to Russia, but I can't see the Red Cross being part of that process.
 
D

Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
The recent cabinet meeting was recommended they don't eat, drink, or touch anything due to concerns over being poisoned. I imagine it's a good recommendation.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
I don't doubt that the Russians are deporting Ukranians to Russia, but I can't see the Red Cross being part of that process.
Would find it difficult to believe they are doing this intentionally but things happen in extreme circumstances. Have many friends who have worked for the American Red Cross in the past and the IRC. Most of them did not have many great things to say about the International Red Cross. They are two completely different organisations and the International one has been rife with problems in the past. This is just one of many examples.

 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
No wars are a win, someone loses, women and children killed, families destroyed, towns wiped off the face of the earth. War is pure hell, until you lived it, a lot of people have no clue what they wish for. These days with superpowers with nukes the end result driven by some egomaniac to push the button to start it, is not pleasant.
Even among the side that's said to be the winners, the toll is terrible. Many of the survivors who may be seen as 'alive and well' have to be considered casualties because of the horrors they faced and saw. We see the number of dead in Ukraine and the comparison with US losses in Afghanistan, but the number of wounded in the Middle East is far higher than the 3:1 ratio mentioned. Then, there are the friends & family of the dead and wounded.......

We in the US have been complacent due to the luxury of not being located as close to countries that might attempt a direct attack but if Russian submarines are successful, it's gonna suck. Nobody should wish for war.
 
haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
I don't doubt that the Russians are deporting Ukranians to Russia, but I can't see the Red Cross being part of that process.
Yeah .... hard to say .... it's very closed down what is going on there!
 

Latest posts

newsletter

  • RBHsound.com
  • BlueJeansCable.com
  • SVS Sound Subwoofers
  • Experience the Martin Logan Montis
Top