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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
If you think CNN or a lot of mainstream so called left media is any better then the right Shady I don't know what to tell you. I actually do the opposite of you from any news sources left or right that are mainstream. I get the story research it through links and then find smaller outlets that have really good reputations and a lot of times what you find on both sides of the political news left or right the truth unfiltered will actually shock you a little bit. Mainstream media is just so bogus all of it. They all have an angle. All of them
There are valid reasons public trust of the news is at an all time low and its not all on right wing media. They deserve a fair share but so does the other side of the media as well
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
There used to be a guy who posted here some years ago who always posted stories from right-wing news sources trying to get people outraged about something that liberals or democrats did or something along those lines. Nearly every single story that he posted was easily debunked, maybe even every single story, and that was something that was easy to do, and something I did when I had more time to indulge in this BS. All I had to do was look for the source of the story- there never was one, or the source was extremely flaky or wildly exaggerated. Conservative news has no credibility for good reasons.

Many of the sources that you think is somehow "leftist" like CNN (insane that CNN could ever be considered leftist) has to meet a much higher standard of journalism than pretty much every conservative news company. Many of their reporters and editorial staff have degrees from Northwestern or Columbia NY or other top journalism schools. They are extensively trained for accurate reporting. There is no corresponding culture for accurate reportage in conservative news. Many of their reporters are communications majors who interned for some republican politician. Some of them at Foxnews are fished out of local networks who were deemed to be "ideologically compatible" i.e., willing to spout BS for a bigger paycheck.

I have my problems with many major news sources, but even a news outlet as trashy as CNN is incomparably more dependable in the raw facts of their story than any conservative news organization. Hell, any article that I write for Audioholics is going to be much more reliable than any conservative news. I bother to get my facts vetted before going to print and make a real effort to ensure that everything I write is correct. I wish I could be as lazy and sloppy as Newsmax or Foxnews. It would be so much easier to just make up BS around something I read in Pravda and never having to worry about anyone attacking my integrity. I would say the reason why conservative "news" don't really have any journalistic ethics is because they know that their target audience don't really care about the truth either. Hence the reason why they think Donald Trump won the 2020 election and COVID vaccines are Chinese mind-control nanobots.
Here you go Shady take a look. She's brilliant still a Democrat I've said it before I have no issue with the everyday Democrat. We actually agree on a lot of issues just not always how to get there. Just the really far left loses me like the really radical right does as well. I encourage you to check out all of her stuff and books very good information with data and research to back it up. She also says the right wing mainstream media does this same stuff as well. Because as she correctly points out we have a class issue in America. That both sides of the media have unwittingly become a part of
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
There used to be a guy who posted here some years ago who always posted stories from right-wing news sources trying to get people outraged about something that liberals or democrats did or something along those lines. Nearly every single story that he posted was easily debunked, maybe even every single story, and that was something that was easy to do, and something I did when I had more time to indulge in this BS. All I had to do was look for the source of the story- there never was one, or the source was extremely flaky or wildly exaggerated. Conservative news has no credibility for good reasons.

Many of the sources that you think is somehow "leftist" like CNN (insane that CNN could ever be considered leftist) has to meet a much higher standard of journalism than pretty much every conservative news company. Many of their reporters and editorial staff have degrees from Northwestern or Columbia NY or other top journalism schools. They are extensively trained for accurate reporting. There is no corresponding culture for accurate reportage in conservative news. Many of their reporters are communications majors who interned for some republican politician. Some of them at Foxnews are fished out of local networks who were deemed to be "ideologically compatible" i.e., willing to spout BS for a bigger paycheck.

I have my problems with many major news sources, but even a news outlet as trashy as CNN is incomparably more dependable in the raw facts of their story than any conservative news organization. Hell, any article that I write for Audioholics is going to be much more reliable than any conservative news. I bother to get my facts vetted before going to print and make a real effort to ensure that everything I write is correct. I wish I could be as lazy and sloppy as Newsmax or Foxnews. It would be so much easier to just make up BS around something I read in Pravda and never having to worry about anyone attacking my integrity. I would say the reason why conservative "news" don't really have any journalistic ethics is because they know that their target audience don't really care about the truth either. Hence the reason why they think Donald Trump won the 2020 election and COVID vaccines are Chinese mind-control nanobots.
Here's another good one about how she talks especially in the first 3 minutes about how she transitioned her values as a Democrat from more woke far left extremes to more traditional liberalism. The study she talks about from Yale I looked it up very legit very true it's accurate.

Also the research in about the middle of the video on how Walmarts vaxxination program has done more to help minorities Trump supporters and more radical evangelicists to be open to the vaccine was awesome. And I tell you this mandates was not how they did it.
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
There used to be a guy who posted here some years ago who always posted stories from right-wing news sources trying to get people outraged about something that liberals or democrats did or something along those lines. Nearly every single story that he posted was easily debunked, maybe even every single story, and that was something that was easy to do, and something I did when I had more time to indulge in this BS. All I had to do was look for the source of the story- there never was one, or the source was extremely flaky or wildly exaggerated. Conservative news has no credibility for good reasons.

Many of the sources that you think is somehow "leftist" like CNN (insane that CNN could ever be considered leftist) has to meet a much higher standard of journalism than pretty much every conservative news company. Many of their reporters and editorial staff have degrees from Northwestern or Columbia NY or other top journalism schools. They are extensively trained for accurate reporting. There is no corresponding culture for accurate reportage in conservative news. Many of their reporters are communications majors who interned for some republican politician. Some of them at Foxnews are fished out of local networks who were deemed to be "ideologically compatible" i.e., willing to spout BS for a bigger paycheck.

I have my problems with many major news sources, but even a news outlet as trashy as CNN is incomparably more dependable in the raw facts of their story than any conservative news organization. Hell, any article that I write for Audioholics is going to be much more reliable than any conservative news. I bother to get my facts vetted before going to print and make a real effort to ensure that everything I write is correct. I wish I could be as lazy and sloppy as Newsmax or Foxnews. It would be so much easier to just make up BS around something I read in Pravda and never having to worry about anyone attacking my integrity. I would say the reason why conservative "news" don't really have any journalistic ethics is because they know that their target audience don't really care about the truth either. Hence the reason why they think Donald Trump won the 2020 election and COVID vaccines are Chinese mind-control nanobots.
Once again Shady I'm not saying you not right about right leaning media and there biases I think you are right. But to say mainstream left media doesn't have the same issue I feel your mistaken and there is plenty of evidence research and data that backs this up
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
If you think CNN or a lot of mainstream so called left media is any better then the right Shady I don't know what to tell you. I actually do the opposite of you from any news sources left or right that are mainstream. I get the story research it through links and then find smaller outlets that have really good reputations and a lot of times what you find on both sides of the political news left or right the truth unfiltered will actually shock you a little bit. Mainstream media is just so bogus all of it. They all have an angle. All of them.
I think the difference is Faux TV flat out lies. CNN/Msnbc at least tell the truth about the right some of the time. I'm not sure how you can say that eh? Tucker, Hannity, Ingraham.....the problem with conservative tv is they have too many political actors vs. news reporters.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
Once again Shady I'm not saying you not right about right leaning media and there biases I think you are right. But to say mainstream left media doesn't have the same issue I feel your mistaken and there is plenty of evidence research and data that backs this up
Name me the reporters on the left then.
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
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If you think CNN or a lot of mainstream so called left media is any better then the right Shady I don't know what to tell you. I actually do the opposite of you from any news sources left or right that are mainstream. I get the story research it through links and then find smaller outlets that have really good reputations and a lot of times what you find on both sides of the political news left or right the truth unfiltered will actually shock you a little bit. Mainstream media is just so bogus all of it. They all have an angle. All of them.
You have confused liberalism with leftism. There is a difference. While outlets like the New York Times editorial page may have a liberal bent, they are by no means leftist. CNN is nowhere near leftist, and most mainstream media news sources are not leftist but rather liberal. And what you call an angle I would call perspective. It's impossible to report as an unbiased source, but the goal should be to report as impartially as possible. Even here at Audioholics, we have a bias; we like when sound systems sound good, and we are partial toward such systems! Don't let our secret out!
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
Name me the reporters on the left then.
Do you want me to be up all night?
Don Lemon
Joy Reid
Brian Steltzer
Chris Cuomo
And that's just off the top of my head tired at 230 in the morning I could easily post you a list a mile long
Just like you could give me a list on the right. Your bias against Trump and far right media appears to blind you to what I believe is more of the same thing on the left.
You keep maintaining the left mainstream media is sometimes every once in awhile better then the right.
I think they're not. Mainstream media is trash to me
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
You have confused liberalism with leftism. There is a difference. While outlets like the New York Times editorial page may have a liberal bent, they are by no means leftist. CNN is nowhere near leftist, and most mainstream media news sources are not leftist but rather liberal. And what you call an angle I would call perspective. It's impossible to report as an unbiased source, but the goal should be to report as impartially as possible. Even here at Audioholics, we have a bias; we like when sound systems sound good, and we are partial toward such systems! Don't let our secret out!
I'm sorry Shady CNN is liberal? New York Times? did you even read the conversation she had with Steltzer I linked? The mainstream media has gone left and there is a ton of data to back that up.

You have a bias and it's become very apparent. Anything conservative based to you is Trump racist and radical. Which is outrageously untrue

For someone who is so dang educated and does his research on the subject of audio it's baffling how you don't do the same thing on the very outlets you appear to get your politics and other news from.

As you say on speakers the data doesn't lie. The data on leftist media and where it resides is pretty conclusive as well.

I still remember Don Lemon when the riots where going on in the summer before the election finally talking about they need to talk about the violence at the RIOTS I'm sorry I meant protests because it was starting to show up at the polls. That's an actual clip you can pull it up yourself.

And your calling that liberal? Ummm ok :oops:
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
Do you want me to be up all night?
Don Lemon
Joy Reid
Brian Steltzer
Chris Cuomo
And that's just off the top of my head tired at 230 in the morning I could easily post you a list a mile long
Just like you could give me a list on the right. Your bias against Trump and far right media appears to blind you to what I believe is more of the same thing on the left.
You keep maintaining the left mainstream media is sometimes every once in awhile better then the right.
I think they're not. Mainstream media is trash to me
I wouldn't put those people anywhere near the category of the lies & conspiracies of Tucker and Hannity. The issue isn't partisanship but who provides at least a modicum of journalism. Because the rights template is lies & conspiracies it opens themselves up to scrutiny. And since their isn't much investigative journalism at Faux it's rinse/repeat with more L&C. But they never get to the heart of the issue since the assumption is the vague behind the scenes.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
They're both STIs. One is modified, the other has been put mostly back to stock to pass emissions, but STI does not have the same flexibility to run 87.
Who said anything about 87? You can't find 89 Octane?
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
I wouldn't put those people anywhere near the category of the lies & conspiracies of Tucker and Hannity. The issue isn't partisanship but who provides at least a modicum of journalism. Because the rights template is lies & conspiracies it opens themselves up to scrutiny. And since their isn't much investigative journalism at Faux it's rinse/repeat with more L&C. But they never get to the heart of the issue since the assumption is the vague behind the scenes.
"I wouldn't put those people anywhere near the category of the lies & conspiracies of Tucker and Hannity"

Ummmm ok :rolleyes:

You and me see eye to eye on quiet a few things but this will just be something we agree to disagree on my friend :)

Have a good night

P.S. Mainstream media is trash! All of it! Lol :D
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
You have confused liberalism with leftism. There is a difference. While outlets like the New York Times editorial page may have a liberal bent, they are by no means leftist. CNN is nowhere near leftist, and most mainstream media news sources are not leftist but rather liberal. And what you call an angle I would call perspective. It's impossible to report as an unbiased source, but the goal should be to report as impartially as possible. Even here at Audioholics, we have a bias; we like when sound systems sound good, and we are partial toward such systems! Don't let our secret out!
Hmmmmm I like how you say the word perspective

You know that saying? what they say the road to hell is paved with no?

They say its good intentions.

I say good intentions is just another way of saying the word perspective
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
Hmmmmm I like how you say the word perspective

You know that saying? what they say the road to hell is paved with no?

They say its good intentions.

I say good intentions is just another way of saying the word perspective
The road to hell is probably paved with asphalt. Another product derived from oil..
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
If you think CNN or a lot of mainstream so called left media is any better then the right Shady I don't know what to tell you. I actually do the opposite of you from any news sources left or right that are mainstream. I get the story research it through links and then find smaller outlets that have really good reputations and a lot of times what you find on both sides of the political news left or right the truth unfiltered will actually shock you a little bit. Mainstream media is just so bogus all of it. They all have an angle. All of them.
WRT the media- WHY has the US public allowed them to devolve into that? They used to be 'the NEWS', but ad revenue grabbed them by the gonads and they began the race to the bottom.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Who said anything about 87? You can't find 89 Octane?
Lol, the bastard child. I have never even looked at 89. Still not sure why it even exists since it serves no purpose at all. Would only save a couple of bucks in the end so not really worth it. Is like $60 to fill them up, but I only have to fill them up every few weeks because I don't drive a whole lot.
 
Mikado463

Mikado463

Audioholic Spartan
Lol, the bastard child. I have never even looked at 89. Still not sure why it even exists since it serves no purpose at all.
in my area it's predominately 87, 89, 93. So my vehicle recommends 91, I typically fill up at half tank alternating between 89 and 93, works perfectly !
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
WRT the media- WHY has the US public allowed them to devolve into that? They used to be 'the NEWS', but ad revenue grabbed them by the gonads and they began the race to the bottom.
Because stupidity is rampant in the US? The largest selling newspaper traditionally has been the supermarket tabloids like National Enquirer, Star, Weekly World News et al....look how many still support tv evangelists and all that nonsense, look how many republicans still suck drumph titty.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
"I wouldn't put those people anywhere near the category of the lies & conspiracies of Tucker and Hannity"

Ummmm ok :rolleyes:

You and me see eye to eye on quiet a few things but this will just be something we agree to disagree on my friend :)

Have a good night

P.S. Mainstream media is trash! All of it! Lol :D
So you think Hannity and Tucker are actual journalists/reporters? Mainstream media is welll represented by Faux News
 

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