SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
The more educated you are, the more likely you are to lean left. The school you go to doesn't matter, nor does the type of degree that you get. Is all of academia a bunch of commies intent on brainwashing the naive minds of our nation's youth? Or perhaps the more knowledge you gain, the more you recognize that not everything is a black-and-white decision the way that conservatives frame every issue? To put it another way, you can be a conspiracy theory loon or perhaps see that the world doesn't conform to the fantastically stupid and simplistic layout of a conservative mindset.
The more educated you are "by professors that vote 90% Democrat", the more likely you are to lean left. slight edit.

If you went to a AV show with 10 company reps selling their AVs. Let's say if you had 9 Yamaha reps and 1 from Denon. Do you think that may influence sales a bit? Would the Yamaha guys call a customer who purchased a Denon AV, someone with a fantastically stupid and simplistic layout of a Denon mindset because they didn't by a Yamaha. Education is a product. The product is flawed.
The typical Uni has gutted the traditionally mandatory liberal arts courses that taught Greek philo, logic, critical thinking, proper debate skills and the lessons of the past mistakes and successes of history. I have been interviewing college grads for 40 years and its sad to see how the education system has let them down especially in the last 20 years. And WTF is a safe space for?
Correct me if I am wrong here. You imply that for someone without a college degree(without more knowledge), would see the world mainly though the lense of a black or white decision and thus be maybe stupid? I know many people without college degrees who run circles around recent college graduates. The main reason? They educated themselves and are more inclined to think critically. They learned from living in the streets of the city that Leftist ideas like "Defunding the Police" actually result in more murder crime in their neighborhoods not the rich suburbs where college grads live. Leftist policies killing people Lefties say they care about. They only care for the votes.
Your serve.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
I think it's time for you to provide the data. Your asserting that leftwing mainstream media is better and doesn't have any of the problems the right-wing media has. Some of us have felt different posting links and explaining why we feel the way we do. Now either post links debunking the links we sent and especially post links validating what your claiming. I think some of us have been patient enough about this

And if you can't understand the point he's making in his last links and data I don't know what to tell you.

I'll ask you this. Over 90% of journalists now have university degrees. Whether media is left or right can you see the problem in this statistic? If you can't then I don't know if there's any point continuing this conversation.
Don't patronize me with data when you couldn't provide me with data on how the left are just as bad as Tucker. Ridiculous. The point I'm trying to make is CNN/Msnbc tell the truth about the right more often than Faux tells the truth about the left. (It's not in any way the left's job to report on their own misdeeds. It's the right's job, if they'd f--king do some investigative journalism, the thing they often don't do.) Ironic given IMO one has some semblance of journalism. America was founded on a Republic, remember? (Or was it?) Therefore kinda ironic the right don't seem to be able to articulate poop. What is it you stand for again? Oh yeah, whatever the left isn't. Not real clear, but ok.....Their resentment of leftist schools means they've jettisoned journalism too. Rather ironic too IMO for the party of virtue. Means again they're more or less a knee jerk reaction to the left. Lofty standards there. I'm sure the Founders would be proud.
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
Don't patronize me with data when you couldn't provide me with data on how the left are just as bad as Tucker. Ridiculous. The point I'm trying to make is CNN/Msnbc tell the truth about the right more often than Faux tells the truth about the left. (It's not in any way the left's job to report on their own misdeeds. It's the right's job, if they'd f--king do some investigative journalism, the thing they often don't do.) Ironic given IMO one has some semblance of journalism. America was founded on a Republic, remember? (Or was it?) Therefore kinda ironic the right don't seem to be able to articulate poop. What is it you stand for again? Oh yeah, whatever the left isn't. Not real clear, but ok.....Their resentment of leftist schools means they've jettisoned journalism too. Rather ironic too IMO for the party of virtue. Means again they're more or less a knee jerk reaction to the left. Lofty standards there. I'm sure the Founders would be proud.
He, and others like him, fail to understand how asymmetrical this is.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
“Slight edit”? You lied about what the study you linked to said, and is an example of why so many highly educated people are repelled by the Republican brand of conservatism.
How did I lie about the study? You 're always asking for proof but only if it fits your worldview as a "highly educated person.
Are these persons of latino decent people stupid? That's kind of elitist thinking, no?

The burden of being highly educated must be a toil.

 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
Don't patronize me with data when you couldn't provide me with data on how the left are just as bad as Tucker. Ridiculous. The point I'm trying to make is CNN/Msnbc tell the truth about the right more often than Faux tells the truth about the left. (It's not in any way the left's job to report on their own misdeeds. It's the right's job, if they'd f--king do some investigative journalism, the thing they often don't do.) Ironic given IMO one has some semblance of journalism. America was founded on a Republic, remember? (Or was it?) Therefore kinda ironic the right don't seem to be able to articulate poop. What is it you stand for again? Oh yeah, whatever the left isn't. Not real clear, but ok.....Their resentment of leftist schools means they've jettisoned journalism too. Rather ironic too IMO for the party of virtue. Means again they're more or less a knee jerk reaction to the left. Lofty standards there. I'm sure the Founders would be proud.
Okay so when you get past all the insults the assumptions on what you think I stand for and the obvious not responding to the data and questions that I and @SithZedi have already given you it's obvious that you don't have any data to give that backs up your claims. OK GOT IT. :rolleyes:

Its funny about how that works. Left leaning come on here start claiming right leaning are racist or stupid or they are the problem in the media or gov etc. A person responds the conversation gets to the point that data and ideas need to be exchanged to continue the conversation.

What does the left leaning come up with? A bunch of vitriol and name calling. Standard.

You didn't answer the question I asked you. Because you can't. Which means there's no point in this conversation needing to continue. It would about as pleasant as speaking to a wall. I'm going out with friends. Have a good night.

Oh yeah ALL my friends only voted for Trump have no degrees and are racist and stupid as fu#$ and they only watch and talk about the sh$t on Fox News. We're just going to sit around in a manure field somewhere shoot our guns and only talk about Biden CNN and how liberals are going to destroy the world. It's going to be SO MUCH FUN! :D
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
Don't patronize me with data when you couldn't provide me with data on how the left are just as bad as Tucker. Ridiculous. The point I'm trying to make is CNN/Msnbc tell the truth about the right more often than Faux tells the truth about the left. (It's not in any way the left's job to report on their own misdeeds. It's the right's job, if they'd f--king do some investigative journalism, the thing they often don't do.) Ironic given IMO one has some semblance of journalism. America was founded on a Republic, remember? (Or was it?) Therefore kinda ironic the right don't seem to be able to articulate poop. What is it you stand for again? Oh yeah, whatever the left isn't. Not real clear, but ok.....Their resentment of leftist schools means they've jettisoned journalism too. Rather ironic too IMO for the party of virtue. Means again they're more or less a knee jerk reaction to the left. Lofty standards there. I'm sure the Founders would be proud.
You want proof? Why don't you go review the Tucker Carlson thread where I have given it to you many times. I didn't even watch Tucker until you started that thread. You defended CNN's investigative journalistic standards and I gave you proof. Remember the time CNN broke the story about Chris Cuomo's assistance to his brother?
Neither do I. Good times. Can't wait for all the discovery process on that litigation.
Your view is entirely one sided in it's criticism. I criticize the Corporate media as a whole and have done so many times in these threads.

(It's not in any way the left's job to report on their own misdeeds. It's the right's job, if they'd f--king do some investigative journalism, the thing they often don't do.)

I honestly believe you meant to type the above sentence. The left shouldn't report on their own misdeeds? Really? Journalism! Maybe that's the problem with Left wing journalists. You nailed it. Woe to the Republic.

Your going to give us perspective on the foundations of the American Republic? What are the three branches of Gov't again?
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
How did I lie about the study? You 're always asking for proof but only if it fits your worldview as a "highly educated person.
Are these persons of latino decent people stupid? That's kind of elitist thinking, no?

The burden of being highly educated must be a toil.

Don’t you read what you write? Your link text is false as the article does not say that at all.
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
It's hard not when one is not as highly educated as yourself. And the text link was?
I just put this one on ignore awhile back. It was wonderful. He talks about education. And never has anything educated to say. Spoiler Alert talking to him may hurt your head with his stupidity

His pattern is predictable skulk on the threads if anyone says anything that goes outside of his liberal minded values then he tries to drag you into the mud with an argument by being as obnoxious and ignorant as possible. Don't waste your energy he is so not worth your time
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
The funniest part about this is no one on this thread actually disagreed with the OP. No one denied there are biases with right wing media. But the moment we said we think there are problems with left wing media too well he just loses his mind!

It's blown up into am argument over nothing. Hilarious

Okay getting called to our table to eat gotta go!
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
The funniest part about this is no one on this thread actually disagreed with the OP. No one denied there are biases with right wing media. But the moment we said we think there are problems with left wing media too well he just loses his mind!

It's blown up into am argument over nothing. Hilarious

Okay getting called to our table to eat gotta go!
Oh I'm sorry I'm lying Wed never do something as civilized and educated as got out to eat. Somebody got the projector and just shoot a picture up of Tucker Carlson. We're gonna roll around in the mud field and just touch ourselves! :D

Leftists you guys are pretty funny I'll give you that :)

Have a great night everyone!
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
You want proof? Why don't you go review the Tucker Carlson thread where I have given it to you many times. I didn't even watch Tucker until you started that thread. You defended CNN's investigative journalistic standards and I gave you proof. Remember the time CNN broke the story about Chris Cuomo's assistance to his brother?
Neither do I. Good times. Can't wait for all the discovery process on that litigation.
Your view is entirely one sided in it's criticism. I criticize the Corporate media as a whole and have done so many times in these threads.

(It's not in any way the left's job to report on their own misdeeds. It's the right's job, if they'd f--king do some investigative journalism, the thing they often don't do.)

I honestly believe you meant to type the above sentence. The left shouldn't report on their own misdeeds? Really? Journalism! Maybe that's the problem with Left wing journalists. You nailed it. Woe to the Republic.

Your going to give us perspective on the foundations of the American Republic? What are the three branches of Gov't again?
Hahaha, you've never denounced anything from the right. It's your Republic. Look at their core principles and tell me what they are.

Capitalism
Limited gov't
Greater individual autonomy
Lower taxes
Large military to defend liberty
God

Whatever the left isn't

Never ever heard those principles mentioned by the right. Never articulated. Nothing. Faux? You gotta be outta your mind. Whatever the vagueness of "tradition" and "conservatism" is.....

The essence what I'm trying to get at in the two party race is they tell the truth about each other but rarely do they tell the truth about themselves. That's why it's your f--king job over there to do some investigative journalism on things like policy, or behavior. Obviously if CNN had prewarning about Cuomo then that's another matter.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
I just put this one on ignore awhile back. It was wonderful. He talks about education. And never has anything educated to say. Spoiler Alert talking to him may hurt your head with his stupidity

His pattern is predictable skulk on the threads if anyone says anything that goes outside of his liberal minded values then he tries to drag you into the mud with an argument by being as obnoxious and ignorant as possible. Don't waste your energy he is so not worth your time
I'm used to it. Whatever the history, I just want to know if i have misread the data. As I used to tell my kids, if I make a mistake let me know so I will not do so again. Wait isn't the idea of learning from your past mistakes part of conservative philosophy?
BTW, some might like this latest clip from Maher fairly amusing. He attacks everyone and everything but he does have some interesting things to say about Americans sucking up to China.

 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
Okay so when you get past all the insults the assumptions on what you think I stand for and the obvious not responding to the data and questions that I and @SithZedi have already given you it's obvious that you don't have any data to give that backs up your claims. OK GOT IT. :rolleyes:

Its funny about how that works. Left leaning come on here start claiming right leaning are racist or stupid or they are the problem in the media or gov etc. A person responds the conversation gets to the point that data and ideas need to be exchanged to continue the conversation.

What does the left leaning come up with? A bunch of vitriol and name calling. Standard.

You didn't answer the question I asked you. Because you can't. Which means there's no point in this conversation needing to continue. It would about as pleasant as speaking to a wall. I'm going out with friends. Have a good night.

Oh yeah ALL my friends only voted for Trump have no degrees and are racist and stupid as fu#$ and they only watch and talk about the sh$t on Fox News. We're just going to sit around in a manure field somewhere shoot our guns and only talk about Biden CNN and how liberals are going to destroy the world. It's going to be SO MUCH FUN! :D
Again, simply using Columbia as an example for ALL of America isn't sufficient. Ok, Ivy schools are blue, but what about the South? Is the entire nation of our universities blue too? Notre Dame included?

I never said anything about racism. The point continues to be America was founded on a Republic, I don't think you articulate it well beyond owning the libs, and your journalism over there at Faux headquarters is abysmal at best for a station dedicated to preserving the Republic. CNN/Msnbc while not stellar still have some semblance of journalism. Faux has almost none (ie possibly even less) and has a host over there who is the gold standard of propaganda. For a party that is so vastly better in every way to the Democrats, why can't you seem to articulate your position or use more journalism? I'd think that'd be pretty easy considering your better in every way. Alas it gets into the difficulty Republicans seem to have selling their ideology beyond hate, fear, and propaganda.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
Hahaha, you've never denounced anything from the right. It's your Republic. Look at their core principles and tell me what they are.

Capitalism
Limited gov't
Greater individual autonomy
Lower taxes
Large military to defend liberty
God

Whatever the left isn't

Never ever heard those principles mentioned by the right. Never articulated. Nothing. Faux? You gotta be outta your mind. Whatever the vagueness of "tradition" and "conservatism" is.....

The essence what I'm trying to get at in the two party race is they tell the truth about each other but rarely do they tell the truth about themselves. That's why it's your f--king job over there to do some investigative journalism on things like policy, or behavior. Obviously if CNN had prewarning about Cuomo then that's another matter.
You're spewing with out addressing the prior question(s) posed to you. Not very sporting now is it?
Again you wrote:

(It's not in any way the left's job to report on their own misdeeds. It's the right's job, if they'd f--king do some investigative journalism, the thing they often don't do.)

What if there was no Fox and all the Right wing media disappeared in a tragic boating accident on one of their cruises? If the Left's journalists do the job you describe what do you think would happen if there was a Left wing government?

My job? I don't even watch Fox unless you mention it. Again, its ALL poop as you'd say.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
Notre Dame:
Legislative Branch 58% Dem to 42% Repub (toss up for bias)
Presidential 2020: 90% Biden/10% Trump (very significant bias)
Presidential 2012: 75% Obama/25% Romney. (significant bias)

The IVY league is extremely important since most of the Elite that occupy the most powerful positions in Gov't, Media, and elsewhere tend to be from those schools. Especially Journalists as mentioned in other's prior posts.

I'd rather hire a good 2 year community college grad than an IVY leaguer but I'm in business so am biased that way.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Spartan
You're spewing with out addressing the prior question(s) posed to you. Not very sporting now is it?
Again you wrote:

(It's not in any way the left's job to report on their own misdeeds. It's the right's job, if they'd f--king do some investigative journalism, the thing they often don't do.)

What if there was no Fox and all the Right wing media disappeared in a tragic boating accident on one of their cruises? If the Left's journalists do the job you describe what do you think would happen if there was a Left wing government?

My job? I don't even watch Fox unless you mention it. Again, its ALL poop as you'd say.
Well if you think Columbia is close enough to a nat'l problem. Then I'd guess it isn't your job to dig deeper. I should just accept it as so.

It's kind of like when Chris Christie was on CNN selling his book and talking about media bias. When the host asked Well what about Tucker Carlson?, Christie pivoted to Well I don't watch him so I couldn't say. In other words, Tucker especially but Faux consistently spread misinformation. Christie's not going to acknowledge that bias from Faux. CNN isn't going to say highlight policy failures because it hurts their position. Asking them to isn't the name of the game. That's why it's the right's job to investigate that sort of thing or investigate something else to get "the beat" to use journalism lingo. I get the impression Faux are mostly interested in the latest conspiracy. They either don't have anything on the left, or there isn't a market for conservative journalism. I'm more inclined to think it's the latter. You tell me who's more at fault here?

As I said, if CNN had advance warning on Cuomo, then yes that's on them.
 

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