Replacing a SVS PB 12/plus 2

[superman180]

A few years ago I let go of the majority of my HT gear and with regret I sold my Sub. Now I am working on rebuilding my system and along with researching new AVR I am looking at subs. Right now I'm strongly considering the Monoprice 16" THX sub however I loved the SVS so not opposed to getting one in the same price range. Budget is 2500. I guess my question is for anyone that may have some experience with the old PB 12/plus 2 and current subs out there? I got spoiled and don't want to go backwards in sub quality or output. This is going into a much larger room and I want that impact I’m used to.

Regards.

Mike.

 

[Hetfield]

A few years ago I let go of the majority of my HT gear and with regret I sold my Sub. Now I am working on rebuilding my system and along with researching new AVR I am looking at subs. Right now I'm strongly considering the Monoprice 16" THX sub however I loved the SVS so not opposed to getting one in the same price range. Budget is 2500. I guess my question is for anyone that may have some experience with the old PB 12/plus 2 and current subs out there? I got spoiled and don't want to go backwards in sub quality or output. This is going into a much larger room and I want that impact I’m used to.

Regards.

Mike.

Right now I don't think thre is a better value than the Monoprice subs. I have SVS but if I were starting today I would be going with Monoprice and it's not even close. They are killing it with their products right now.

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[AcuDefTechGuy]

These subs are pretty heavy at almost 180 lbs.

I think any of these big internally-powered subs will get you that powerful bass output.

But I will throw in another idea - externally powered subs. Why?

1. Lighter in weight (RBH SV-1212NR Reference Signature is 107 lbs)
2. Amp is external so more flexible - you can use any amp and don’t have to worry about replacing an internal sub amp in the future that might be backorder or unavailable
3. You can use/buy your own EQ/DSP of your choice

 

[Pogre]

I think factoring price/performance the Monolith THX Ultra series are hard to beat. I think quality of sound is going to match SVS offerings, for a little less money. The 16 you're looking at looks like a superstar. It's a lot of sub. Both physically and perfomance.

 

[snakeeyes]

Probably a pair of the original Monolith 15in on sale right now at Monoprice for $1099 each is a great upgrade option too.

 

[Pogre]

Probably a pair of the original Monolith 15in on sale right now at Monoprice for $1099 each is a great upgrade option too.

A guy could buy 2 of those and be very happy. I think the same for the 13" also. That's 13" of cone surface, not from the edge of the basket frame like most do. It'd be 15" or 16" to anyone else.

 

[superman180]

All good options. I have a little time to decide but so far most of you have kinda confirmed my thoughts after countless hours looking around the sites looking at reviews. Let’s see what the deals are when I pull the trigger. I’m thinking the sub will be the first purchase as it’s likely to have the biggest right now impact on my system.
thanks to everyone for their input.
mike.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Monolith by Monoprice M-212 Dual 12in THX Certified Ultra 1000 Watt Powered Subwoofer - Monoprice.com

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A pair of these would be over budget but might be worth looking at.
Best value might be a pair of original mono 15’s as snake mentioned.
That old plus/2 was a special subwoofer, and there’s even still a review on AH. Edit: https://www.audioholics.com/subwoofer-reviews/svs-pb12-plus-2
I made a cardboard mock-up once and put it into the spot I intended to place one. Guess what…BIG mistake. My wife saw that and asked wtf is that? I said thats where my new sub is going. She said, no it’s not! We verbally sparred. She won. Ancient history.

Rythmik and psa also makes excellent subwoofers, but if the budget is really 2500, then a pair of fv18’s or 25’s is definitely out lol.

 

[superman180]

I read that review before my original purchase circa 2006ish. . I really loved that sub and wish I hadn’t sold it. We moved and at the time the sub was living in a closet not being used and I let it go. . Really leaning towards the mono 16. Wife was used to the size of the SVS and they look too be about the same size so she is already broke into the idea of what a sub should look like. Not sure I could pull off two. Lol.
reading the reviews of the Mono and seems like the output is higher than the svs and it has lower extension. I do enjoy music running 2 channel direct but really want a good performer for movies. Looks like the 16 will fit the bill. And yeah 2500 is top of budget saving the rest for a new AVR and leaning towards the A6A on a comparable Denon.
I appreciate all the comments this has been my go to site since around 2005, everyone has been kind enough to comment even if the questions are asked multiple times.

 

[lovinthehd]

I'd still rather have at least dual subs so work on the wife a bit perhaps. Plus two WAF dictated placement options are likely better than a single WAF limited location. What are the room/volume details? Any particular extension or spl goals here?

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

I'd still rather have at least dual subs so work on the wife a bit perhaps. Plus two WAF dictated placement options are likely better than a single WAF limited location. What are the room/volume details? Any particular extension or spl goals here?

Yes. This too.

 

[superman180]

Room is 22’ x 18’ x 9’ 1/2” ceilings with a large opening into the dining room and kitchen. I’d like to be close to reference levels not sure what that is equal to in DB’s. I’m thinking if I go with the 16” I could always add one more down the road once the rest of the system is upgraded.
mike.

 

[JasonGSG]

I'd like the opportunity to get involved with your subwoofer project! How large you choose is up too you!

GSG Audio Design - Elite Subwoofers

GSG designs and builds some of the world's highest performing subwoofers for home theaters and high-end 2-channel audio systems.

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[William Lemmerhirt]

I'd like the opportunity to get involved with your subwoofer project! How large you choose is up too you!

GSG Audio Design - Elite Subwoofers

GSG designs and builds some of the world's highest performing subwoofers for home theaters and high-end 2-channel audio systems.

shop.gsgad.com

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Nice! I’ve been considering some next level diy. I think GSG could help.

 

[superman180]

I'd like the opportunity to get involved with your subwoofer project! How large you choose is up too you!

GSG Audio Design - Elite Subwoofers

GSG designs and builds some of the world's highest performing subwoofers for home theaters and high-end 2-channel audio systems.

shop.gsgad.com

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Very interesting I will keep you in mind. I’d like to talk specifics when I’m closer to a purchase. I live roughly 90 min north from you. Do you have a place to demo your subs?
mike.