Upgrade to 4K time !

[Mark E. Long]

Any sujestions on what is a good 4 K tv to look into going to upgrade the main tv from a 52 inch to a 65 or 70 inch display. Have an older Samsung now that still gives a great pic but the time has come to step up the visuals. Any brands that stand out features to look for .stream a lot on a ruko 4K capable stick now and the cable box . So mainly it will be just a monitor unless the ruko dies . Will be upgrading to a 4K blu-Ray aswell . Any sujestions are welcome . Can spend up to 2.000 on the tv .

 

[BMXTRIX]

The 65" LG CX series OLED TV is the best TV you can get for the money.

It should be noted that this is about image quality and black levels which can't be touched by the competing LCD products on the market. This TV is also unique as it supports HDMI 2.1 inputs for 120Hz video gaming if that is something that may ever come into play. It is consistently one of the top, or the top rated displays on any shootout list.

It isn't perfect.
It can suffer from burn in, if a static image is left on screen for hours and hours at a time, this can damage the display. This is not something that typically will happen under normal use.

It isn't amazingly bright. If you have a room with a lot of sunlight in it and you want to ensure excellent daytime viewing, then you may be disappointed by the reality that the brightness isn't higher on this display.

I'm not sure how far you are sitting from the TV and how much room you have to mount a TV on your wall. I can say that at 12' seating distance, we went with absolutely the largest TV we could get. We have an 85" TV on the wall, and realistically could go up to 100" or even larger without any complaints.

If you are seated 10 feet or more from the screen, and have the room, I would also consider going to a 85" class television. There are a lot out there with decent to very good quality right around your budget. They aren't going to be OLED, but they will be bright and have very good image quality. For example, the 85" Sony 900H comes in close to budget, and there are models from LG and Samsung which do as well.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tvs/all-flat-screen-tvs/abcat0101001.c?id=abcat0101001&qp=parent_tvscreensizeplus_facet%3DTV%20Screen%20Size~85%22%20or%20More

The best of both is the 77" LG CX OLED. It's a bit out of budget...

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-77-class-cx-series-oled-4k-uhd-smart-webos-tv/6401914.p?skuId=6401914

 

[Movie2099]

Any sujestions on what is a good 4 K tv to look into going to upgrade the main tv from a 52 inch to a 65 or 70 inch display. Have an older Samsung now that still gives a great pic but the time has come to step up the visuals. Any brands that stand out features to look for .stream a lot on a ruko 4K capable stick now and the cable box . So mainly it will be just a monitor unless the ruko dies . Will be upgrading to a 4K blu-Ray aswell . Any sujestions are welcome . Can spend up to 2.000 on the tv .

Wait for the new lineup of TV’s to drop. Samsung, LG and Sony will be dropping end of month and in April. Any of their TVs will be huge upgrades. $2k should get you the size you’re looking for.

 

[Mark E. Long]

Wait for the new lineup of TV’s to drop. Samsung, LG and Sony will be dropping end of month and in April. Any of their TVs will be huge upgrades. $2k should get you the size you’re looking for.

Good to know thanks for the reply and yes I can wait for that .

 

[Mark E. Long]

The 65" LG CX series OLED TV is the best TV you can get for the money.

It should be noted that this is about image quality and black levels which can't be touched by the competing LCD products on the market. This TV is also unique as it supports HDMI 2.1 inputs for 120Hz video gaming if that is something that may ever come into play. It is consistently one of the top, or the top rated displays on any shootout list.

It isn't perfect.
It can suffer from burn in, if a static image is left on screen for hours and hours at a time, this can damage the display. This is not something that typically will happen under normal use.

It isn't amazingly bright. If you have a room with a lot of sunlight in it and you want to ensure excellent daytime viewing, then you may be disappointed by the reality that the brightness isn't higher on this display.

I'm not sure how far you are sitting from the TV and how much room you have to mount a TV on your wall. I can say that at 12' seating distance, we went with absolutely the largest TV we could get. We have an 85" TV on the wall, and realistically could go up to 100" or even larger without any complaints.

If you are seated 10 feet or more from the screen, and have the room, I would also consider going to a 85" class television. There are a lot out there with decent to very good quality right around your budget. They aren't going to be OLED, but they will be bright and have very good image quality. For example, the 85" Sony 900H comes in close to budget, and there are models from LG and Samsung which do as well.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tvs/all-flat-screen-tvs/abcat0101001.c?id=abcat0101001&qp=parent_tvscreensizeplus_facet%3DTV%20Screen%20Size~85%22%20or%20More

The best of both is the 77" LG CX OLED. It's a bit out of budget...

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-77-class-cx-series-oled-4k-uhd-smart-webos-tv/6401914.p?skuId=6401914

We set 12 feet from the screen and a Farley dark room too LG’s are on my sights as is Samsung . I’d like to keep it to 70 at max and can go down to a 65 inch . Iam assuming that most all now days offer up scaling built in got a vast stash of blu-ray’s and older DVD’s really want to get the most out of the new set . I’ll be upgrading to a 4K player as well . Thanks for your input !

 

[BMXTRIX]

We set 12 feet from the screen and a Farley dark room too LG’s are on my sights as is Samsung . I’d like to keep it to 70 at max and can go down to a 65 inch . Iam assuming that most all now days offer up scaling built in got a vast stash of blu-ray’s and older DVD’s really want to get the most out of the new set . I’ll be upgrading to a 4K player as well . Thanks for your input !

In a darker room or mostly after dark viewing, then I would jump on the LG 65" CX at $2,000. It hits your budget and in every review you read, people pretty much gush. For good reason. It's the Pioneer Kuro killer. Not really the first to do so, but it really is up there with the best of the best of the best for image quality.

There is ZERO reason to go to a LCD unless you are going larger. Have no doubt at all, 85" of TV vs. 65" is significant and you would get used to it in a couple of days. Then going back down to 65" or smaller would feel tiny. As I said, I'm not sure how that works in your actual room, but I can tell you from 20 years of experience, that 85" would not feel too large. It would feel quite right, very quickly. The reality that there are decent 85" TVs right at your budget is what makes it something to think about. I would not say "85 inches is way too large!" - It simply is not. Though, if you have a specific space to fill, 85" may just not fit. I get that and accept that as a limitation you may have to deal with.

 

[snakeeyes]

The 75inch Sony 900H is $1,800 at Best Buy. That’s another option.

 

[panteragstk]

In a darker room or mostly after dark viewing, then I would jump on the LG 65" CX at $2,000. It hits your budget and in every review you read, people pretty much gush. For good reason. It's the Pioneer Kuro killer. Not really the first to do so, but it really is up there with the best of the best of the best for image quality.

There is ZERO reason to go to a LCD unless you are going larger. Have no doubt at all, 85" of TV vs. 65" is significant and you would get used to it in a couple of days. Then going back down to 65" or smaller would feel tiny. As I said, I'm not sure how that works in your actual room, but I can tell you from 20 years of experience, that 85" would not feel too large. It would feel quite right, very quickly. The reality that there are decent 85" TVs right at your budget is what makes it something to think about. I would not say "85 inches is way too large!" - It simply is not. Though, if you have a specific space to fill, 85" may just not fit. I get that and accept that as a limitation you may have to deal with.

This is what I'll be doing once my 65" plasma dies.

Even the best LCD won't touch the blacks.

I would honestly grab the biggest screen in my budget for this though. I'm sitting 10' from a 120" screen and it's excellent. Am I a bit too close? Maybe, but if you stick with under 90" you won't feel the screen is too big.

 

[Mark E. Long]

This is what I'll be doing once my 65" plasma dies.

Even the best LCD won't touch the blacks.

I would honestly grab the biggest screen in my budget for this though. I'm sitting 10' from a 120" screen and it's excellent. Am I a bit too close? Maybe, but if you stick with under 90" you won't feel the screen is too big.

Have looked up to 85 although 70-75 will fit the room better. The wife is cool with any size I’ve a 52 inch Samsung now and honestly it’s still got a great pic for it’s age but at 11 years old it could say buy anytime. My son has a 75 and his room is way smaller than mine and it really doesn’t seem that big . So a shopping I will go .

 

[BMXTRIX]

My son has a 75 and his room is way smaller than mine and it really doesn’t seem that big . So a shopping I will go .

Make sure you always view any potential purchases from your 'normal' viewing distance. TVs side-by-side make a 'larger' TV look a fair bit bigger. So, try to blank out the world except for the one TV you are looking at. Then take your time.

I can say that I would go OLED or I would go with a 85" LCD, but I wouldn't go with a 65" LCD for darn sure.

If you can save up 10 grand, you can get the upcoming 83" Sony OLED. You know... cheap. Don't be it!

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

@Mark E. Long
Maybe this could help you understand what BMX is talking about:

Chart: 1080P Does Matter - CarltonBale.com

In other words, at 12 ft from the display, you'd start to see some benefit going to 4k at about 85" diagonal TV screens or larger.
One more reason I'd never go with LG electronics is 3 different very much failed LG products in my household after gentle usage - this means these were designed to fail after few years.
Vizio quality could hit or miss, but I was comparing in-store Vizio P65 Quantum vs OLED and the difference isn't huge.

Vizio P Series Quantum X 2020 Review (P65QX-H1, P75QX-H1, P85QX-H1)

The Vizio P Series Quantum X 2020 is a great 4k TV that delivers stunning picture quality. It has a VA panel with a high contrast ratio, which is further enhance...

www.rtings.com

LG CX OLED vs Vizio P Series Quantum X 2020 Side-by-Side TV Comparison

The LG CX OLED is much better than the [nolink:Vizio P Series Quantum X 2020]. The LG is an OLED and can produce perfect blacks, which the Vizio can't. The LG also has better reflection handling, faster response time, and better color accuracy out-of-the-box. The Vizio can get much brighter...

www.rtings.com

Short version: OLED has better picture, but LCD is cheaper, much brighter (very useful for HDR), No risk of permanent burn-in, but viewing angles aren't as good as Oled.
If you have a dedicated darkroom, OLED is better especially if you could move seats closer, but in most living rooms, are brighter and LCD may work better, but bigger = better and I don't think that difference in quality is that massive. At your fairly modest 2k budget you must choose your own priorities and make some sacrifices.

 

[afterlife2]

I agree on LG, Sony or Vizio M or P series. I have the 65 M series 2020 and couldn't be happier with the picture and black levels at the budget price I was looking for.

 

[Mark E. Long]

@Mark E. Long
Maybe this could help you understand what BMX is talking about:

Chart: 1080P Does Matter - CarltonBale.com

In other words, at 12 ft from the display, you'd start to see some benefit going to 4k at about 85" diagonal TV screens or larger.
One more reason I'd never go with LG electronics is 3 different very much failed LG products in my household after gentle usage - this means these were designed to fail after few years.
Vizio quality could hit or miss, but I was comparing in-store Vizio P65 Quantum vs OLED and the difference isn't huge.

Vizio P Series Quantum X 2020 Review (P65QX-H1, P75QX-H1, P85QX-H1)

The Vizio P Series Quantum X 2020 is a great 4k TV that delivers stunning picture quality. It has a VA panel with a high contrast ratio, which is further enhance...

www.rtings.com

LG CX OLED vs Vizio P Series Quantum X 2020 Side-by-Side TV Comparison

The LG CX OLED is much better than the [nolink:Vizio P Series Quantum X 2020]. The LG is an OLED and can produce perfect blacks, which the Vizio can't. The LG also has better reflection handling, faster response time, and better color accuracy out-of-the-box. The Vizio can get much brighter...

www.rtings.com

Short version: OLED has better picture, but LCD is cheaper, much brighter (very useful for HDR), No risk of permanent burn-in, but viewing angles aren't as good as Oled.
If you have a dedicated darkroom, OLED is better especially if you could move seats closer, but in most living rooms, are brighter and LCD may work better, but bigger = better and I don't think that difference in quality is that massive. At your fairly modest 2k budget you must choose your own priorities and make some sacrifices.

Thanks for your response it’s been awhile since I bought out Samsung display High Def was a few years old it’s still a great display but I guess small compared to today’s displays .
I’ve not kept up on the technology as far as 4K kind of like starting over but from what I’ve seen and read up on it’s time to upgrade. I’ve herd good and bad on the LG side Iam kind of leaning towards Samsung at this point in reviews a checking them out at Best Buy and Sams club as were members and can get decent deals there but it’s luck of the draw what’s in stock. But more research is in order . Even at 12 years old our old display still give an excellent picture on blu-rays and streaming apps just don’t want to loose the good picture but want a bigger screen .

 

[Mark E. Long]

I agree on LG, Sony or Vizio M or P series. I have the 65 M series 2020 and couldn't be happier with the picture and black levels at the budget price I was looking for.

I’ve looked at a couple Sony’s they are nice looking displays from the ones I seen. Lol sorry for the dislike big fingers little phone.thanks for your input !!

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Thanks for your response it’s been awhile since I bought out Samsung display High Def was a few years old it’s still a great display but I guess small compared to today’s displays .
I’ve not kept up on the technology as far as 4K kind of like starting over but from what I’ve seen and read up on it’s time to upgrade. I’ve herd good and bad on the LG side Iam kind of leaning towards Samsung at this point in reviews a checking them out at Best Buy and Sams club as were members and can get decent deals there but it’s luck of the draw what’s in stock. But more research is in order . Even at 12 years old our old display still give an excellent picture on blu-rays and streaming apps just don’t want to loose the good picture but want a bigger screen .

I in a similar position, I have a 10-year-old Panasonic 55" Plasma 1080p TV. The picture is great, but I had to repair it once already (did everything, except chip replacement for $90, myself), I swore to myself - next time it breaks it goes to recycling and I'm getting a much larger TV as my sitting distance is even further from TV than yours.

One of thing which recently helped me noticeably with rewatching older DVDs is NVidia shield TV box which is absolutely unique to have AI Upscaling which does work wonders with lower than 1080p videos.

 

[afterlife2]

I’ve looked at a couple Sony’s they are nice looking displays from the ones I seen. Lol sorry for the dislike big fingers little phone.thanks for your input !!

Don't look away from Vizio surprisely great pic quality on a budget.

 

[Mark E. Long]

I in a similar position, I have a 10-year-old Panasonic 55" Plasma 1080p TV. The picture is great, but I had to repair it once already (did everything, except chip replacement for $90, myself), I swore to myself - next time it breaks it goes to recycling and I'm getting a much larger TV as my sitting distance is even further from TV than yours.

One of thing which recently helped me noticeably with rewatching older DVDs is NVidia shield TV box which is absolutely unique to have AI Upscaling which does work wonders with lower than 1080p videos.

Yep this one does a great job of upscale on older stuff aswell it’s a 52 inch but on a cold startup on the right hand side of the screen it gets a black line about in inch from the edge that goes away after it get warm up something is going out of it after 12 years I figure I’ve got really good use from it . It was Farley expensive when new back then as it was there top of the line then it’s served me well . Lol I guess Iam want 12 years and a fantastic picture out of bigger newer model .

 

[Mark E. Long]

Don't look away from Vizio surprisely great pic quality on a budget.

I just quickly looked at a couple on a sight and that’s what I was coming away with reading some reviews !

 

[BMXTRIX]

I just quickly looked at a couple on a sight and that’s what I was coming away with reading some reviews !

Please keep in mind that while Vizio's better TVs can compete with those from Samsung and Sony, there is still zero debate about whether or not they compete with OLED. They do not. Keep that in mind as you are looking. In half a second, if you are determined to stick with 65-70", then get the 65" LG OLED CX series and you will have a true plasma killer display with all the bells and whistles that LG can throw in as well. It pretty much stands as the king of displays right now.

But, if going larger, especially into the 85" class, then please include Vizio and Samsung in the mix along with Sony. I would probably avoid LG at this size. In fact, unless it was OLED, I would avoid LG altogether. They don't make as dominant of a LCD display as the competitors do.

The better Samsungs are often reviewed as having the best image quality out there for LCD televisions. Vizio does alright.
I certainly would look for $500 more and consider this:

https://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-Quantum-AirPlay-Chromecast-P85QX-H1/dp/B08R1521KX/ref=asc_df_B08R1521KX/

 

[Mark E. Long]

Please keep in mind that while Vizio's better TVs can compete with those from Samsung and Sony, there is still zero debate about whether or not they compete with OLED. They do not. Keep that in mind as you are looking. In half a second, if you are determined to stick with 65-70", then get the 65" LG OLED CX series and you will have a true plasma killer display with all the bells and whistles that LG can throw in as well. It pretty much stands as the king of displays right now.

But, if going larger, especially into the 85" class, then please include Vizio and Samsung in the mix along with Sony. I would probably avoid LG at this size. In fact, unless it was OLED, I would avoid LG altogether. They don't make as dominant of a LCD display as the competitors do.

The better Samsungs are often reviewed as having the best image quality out there for LCD televisions. Vizio does alright.
I certainly would look for $500 more and consider this:

https://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-Quantum-AirPlay-Chromecast-P85QX-H1/dp/B08R1521KX/ref=asc_df_B08R1521KX/

Been looking all day at several stores can get a Samsung 65 inch Q90T at Best Buy for a decent price and a 75 in the same model for a few hundred more . It’s got a gorgeous picture as did the LG I looked at . Iam really leaning toward the 65 Q90T Samsung as I’ve had there products with good results for years and it is there top of the line display right now . I’ve read a poop ton of reviews and the LG is mabey a better picture Mabey but the LG’s do have known issues and this was noted by the reviewers and the sales people I talked to today but dam it is a great display !