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[Pogre]

Wow, some older T&A’s! That price is a steal.

T+A Criterion TB- 160 For Sale | Audiogon

T+A Criterion TB- 160 Full-Range for sale. These speakers rarely if ever show up in the US. These speakers have very deep bass and efficiency. The...

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Wow, those look really interesting!

 

[zieglj01]

Wow, some older T&A’s! That price is a steal.

T+A Criterion TB- 160 For Sale | Audiogon

T+A Criterion TB- 160 Full-Range for sale. These speakers rarely if ever show up in the US. These speakers have very deep bass and efficiency. The...

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That is a good price and they only weigh 110 lbs each

 

[Pogre]

That is a good price and they only weigh 110 lbs each

I was looking at the cut away view in the third image. TL design, legit full ranger. They look really solidly built. Curious tho... I wonder what they mean by "6/10 due to age, but 7/10 cosmetically"? I'd be really tempted to go check those out.

*PS: Kinda not cool to hint at cosmetics then not include more than 2 images!

 

[zieglj01]

I was looking at the cut away view in the third image. TL design, legit full ranger. They look really solidly built. Curious tho... I wonder what they mean by "6/10 due to age, but 7/10 cosmetically"? I'd be really tempted to go check those out.

*PS: Kinda not cool to hint at cosmetics then not include more than 2 images!

One should go and look at them, due to weight and maybe moving around the cabinets may look a little rough ... but at least one could listen to them, they should have some nice deep bass

 

[zieglj01]

MB Quart tweeters on buy-out ... for the DIY person

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MB Quart 95-7118 1" Titanium Dome Tweeter 6 OhmThe new old stock 95 7118 is a 1" titanium dome tweeter which was manufactured in Germany by MB Quart, who was always known for producing extremely high quality drivers, especially high frequency drivers. The solid titanium dome's low weight and...

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[Kvn_Walker]

This is an old TMR ad that has more and better pictures (not the exact pair for sale, of course)

T+A CRITERION TB 160 German Audiophile Floorstanding Speakers

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Geez, I wish my 110’s had mid and treble trim switches.

 

[afterlife2]

In beautiful like new condition. Guys kid bought them down. Kid said they are great with music. He didn't say anything about the lows and I didn't ask. These are 4 inch woofers. To compare I have my excellent Boston a23 that have 3 inch woofer and terrific wide sounding Dome tweeter in my bedroom setup. Testing stay tuned.

 

[afterlife2]

In beautiful like new condition. Guys kid bought them down. Kid said they are great with music. He didn't say anything about the lows and I didn't ask. These are 4 inch woofers. To compare I have my excellent Boston a23 that have 3 inch woofer and terrific wide sounding Dome tweeter in my bedroom setup. Testing stay tuned.
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So far I'm not impressed with the tweeter. I guess titanium tweeters are not my bag. Hardly any Soundstage and clarity/treble is good, but flat sounding. Center vocal imaging is good though and slightly hollowed. These well are more suited for their intentions background. For $25 they are OK. These can't replace my beloved Boston. Hells no. Diana Krall & Fiona Apple who have superb SQ recording sounded dull. The Journey continues. Maybe a better tweeter could save these as a DIY. Thoughts? I used it without a sub and with it on. Didn't make a difference.

 

[zieglj01]

So far I'm not impressed with the tweeter. I guess titanium tweeters are not my bag. Hardly any Soundstage and clarity/treble is good, but flat sounding. Center vocal imaging is good though and slightly hollowed. These well are more suited for their intentions background. For $25 they are OK. These can't replace my beloved Boston. Hells no. Diana Krall & Fiona Apple who have superb SQ recording sounded dull. The Journey continues. Maybe a better tweeter could save these as a DIY. Thoughts? I used it without a sub and with it on. Didn't make a difference.

Did you put your ears next to the tweeters, they may have been over-driven by the former owners ... Tweeter switching will cost about double what you spent. If there is some sound coming from the tweeters, then sell them to break even.

 

[lovinthehd]

Have heard the name Bozak but don't think I've ever seen/experienced a pair, noticed this.... https://eugene.craigslist.org/ele/d/eugene-bozak-4000-classic-pair/7293020776.html

 

[afterlife2]

Did you put your ears next to the tweeters, they may have been over-driven by the former owners ... Tweeter switching will cost about double what you spent. If there is some sound coming from the tweeters, then sell them to break even.

I did check they are working fine. You are probably right they probably are stressed from previous use or it's the tweeter that is not for me. I threw back the Boston on and what a major difference. The Boston even has bass that is decent. I'll probably resell them and will be honest only great for background only.

 

[Pogre]

Have heard the name Bozak but don't think I've ever seen/experienced a pair, noticed this.... https://eugene.craigslist.org/ele/d/eugene-bozak-4000-classic-pair/7293020776.html
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Bozak rings a bell, but I've never seen one before. Those look pretty unique. I found some images without the grilles. Kind of a line array thing going on.

They look pretty well built.

 

[afterlife2]

Boston VR30 and Micro ... and MB Quart QL are good deals

Those micro 90 are tempting:

The Boston Acoustics Micro Reference 90 Stereo Review Story

I recently said the Legacy Audio Signature SE speakers are most likely the last pair of speakers I will ever buy. See how the Boston Acoustics Micro Reference 90s came to be this for another reviewer.

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Im sure they are gone.

 

[zieglj01]

I did check they are working fine. You are probably right they probably are stressed from previous use or it's the tweeter that is not for me. I threw back the Boston on and what a major difference. The Boston even has bass that is decent. I'll probably resell them and will be honest only great for background only.

I think they may be stressed, they should not be so called polite speakers ... one last question, were the wires hooked up positive and negative correctly to the MB Q speakers.

 

[zieglj01]

Those micro 90 are tempting:
Im sure they are gone.

Only one way to find out

 

[afterlife2]

I think they may be stressed, they should not be so called polite speakers ... one last question, were the wires hooked up positive and negative correctly to the MB Q speakers.

Yep hooked it up right. Tweeter on the outside look good no tiny holes.

 

[afterlife2]

Only one way to find out

Yep still on CL.
Damn look at all these goodies:

 

[Pogre]

That is a good price and they only weigh 110 lbs each

Actually, that's only ~$5 lb. If they were made of ribeye or NY steak that'd be a pretty killer deal...

 

[zieglj01]

Yep hooked it up right. Tweeter on the outside look good no tiny holes.

It would have to do with the voice coils inside -- I have not heard this model ... but if someone knew how to check the voice coils on the tweeters, then it would be interesting to know the result. ... but as in all things audio some prefer one speaker over another. ... you should be able to sell them

 

[zieglj01]

Yep still on CL.
Damn look at all these goodies:

Enjoy your audio round trip ... report back ... have fun