Huh??? 11hz from this lil flea box? British miracle or Bollocks?

[pcosmic]

 

[ryanosaur]

optimism springs eternal.

perhaps it can hit 11hz in a small room, at 80dB. see first statement.

to be honest, this should be right up @shadyJ 's path... he can carry it in one hand! maybe we see an ah review?

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Seems like @killdozzer asked about this one before...
Dubious would be an understatement, but maybe in a small enough space. Like mounted as headphones. Lol

 

[ryanosaur]

Like mounted as headphones. Lol

sort of like how Shady used to have his 2 uls15s! bet these are more gentle on the neck.

 

[John Parks]

Neck? If so he’s carrying them wrong... As the saying goes, lift with your knees, not your... neck.

 

[ryanosaur]

Found it.

Subwoofer Candy

Every once in awhile I find a kick-ass tune that lets my subs rip, and I will share some of them here as I find them. I just found one that had a gob of bass and a nice bass line, it is a rework of the Halloween movie theme, which serves as a nice antidote to all the g*&@#&^ Christmas music at...

forums.audioholics.com

Shady's old set up.

 

[lovinthehd]

Someone asked KEF about the 20hz performance of the 62....that was at 80dB so 11hz is pretty much useless. Except to get a 2ch "purist" excited, like with the Yamaha sound or their dac or something

 

[pcosmic]

sort of like how Shady used to have his 2 uls15s! bet these are more gentle on the neck.

Well, the two 6.5 inch drivers in this thing are force balanced apparently. Hence, it may not bounce/twerk/dance around too much and land on his noggin when he's trying to test it (at the least)

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

sort of like how Shady used to have his 2 uls15s! bet these are more gentle on the neck.

ZACTLY!!!!!

 

[pcosmic]

Someone asked KEF about the 20hz performance of the 62....that was at 80dB so 11hz is pretty much useless. Except to get a 2ch "purist" excited, like with the Yamaha sound or their dac or something

Ah, tis all bollocks then eh mate?? Tsk Tsk, such a shame.
At least Lord Yammy didn't give thee big bollocks like our mates from Kent did....Kinishinaide

 

[lovinthehd]

Ah, tis all bollocks then eh mate?? Tsk Tsk, such a shame.
At least Lord Yammy didn't give thee big bollocks like our mates from Kent did....Kinishinaide

You do write creatively....you a part time audio reviewer, too?

 

[killdozzer]

Seems like @killdozzer asked about this one before...
Dubious would be an understatement, but maybe in a small enough space. Like mounted as headphones. Lol

Yes, I wondered about the big brother, the KEF KF92. Even with that one I was on the ledge. Looked for white papers, for independent measurements... Didn't find any. I expected the lot at ASR to be more critical about it and I was surprised they weren't. I posted the results of a xmax calculator and they blocked me from further posting. I'm at awe to see such brand devotion at ASR. Maybe KEF is a donor.

Long story short;

The membrane should travel almost 4cm in one direction to achieve 20Hz (THAT'S 20 not the stated 11!!) And almost 8cm looking both ways. And that's for less than useful 80dB.

They mention a different suspension and a proprietary DSP that progressively changes how deep it will go as you turn on the volume.

If I see exact measurements for this, I'm perfectly willing to take it all back. Until then, I CAN'T and DON'T believe they found a way to outsmart laws of physics.

 

[killdozzer]

Now, let's be a little blunt, just to make a good joke on KEF; let's use the numbers they keep on publishing next to this lifestyle toy:

They mention 11 and 105, so it needs to swing cca a foot and a half altogether.

I also didn't like the fact that KEF stooped to "well, you're not going to believe the specs we publish, will you?"

 

[Trell]

..
I also didn't like the fact that KEF stooped to "well, you're not going to believe the specs we publish, will you?"

They could just publish their measurements instead of snark, but we'll know if the specs are true when someone qualified does a review.

 

[killdozzer]

They could just publish their measurements instead of snark, but we'll know if the specs are true when someone qualified does a review.

I said this a couple of times; it is possible that this sub could do usable, slightly bellow 30hz when not very loud in a small listening room. This would still earn it a gold medal because of its size. I think that now those almost 30Hz in a small room might get overlooked, bc everyone will simply remember it as failing to deliver what was published instead of appreciating what it CAN do.

And since the 20 were confirmed from KEF at 80dB, I even think we could stop expecting measurements to knock us off our feet.

And those measurement came pretty quickily for LS50, you could find white papers all over, but somehow, a new model came out before the previous even got measured. The previous is 2x9inch and also says 11Hz??

 

[Ponzio]

This guy makes some good points about the KEF KC62 but doubts the numbers (specs) KEF has put out there, simply because of physics. I'd have to agree.

But it's not all negative as he points out and it could be this technology they've developed may lead to a downstream pass-on to their bookshelves/towers, which will negate the need to buy a subwoofer(s) and the space they take up.

I know it was a conundrum for me and I finally settled for a pair of SVS SB-2000's. Window rattling? No but good enough for my ears, without having it breakup at lower frequencies. The Salk towers do great job digging (down to 32Hz) and the SB-2000's do a fantastic job of filling out the soundstage down to 24Hz, which is more than adequate for music, even for organs or the rare occasions I listen to rap.

 

[highfigh]

Maybe they backed in into a corner and used that to augment the output......

 

[Trell]

This guy makes some good points about the KEF KC62 but doubts the numbers (specs) KEF has put out there, simply because of physics. I'd have to agree.

But it's not all negative as he points out and it could be this technology they've developed may lead to a downstream pass-on to their bookshelves/towers, which will negate the need to buy a subwoofer(s) and the space they take up.

I know it was a conundrum for me and I finally settled for a pair of SVS SB-2000's. Window rattling? No but good enough for my ears, without having it breakup at lower frequencies. The Salk towers do great job digging (down to 32Hz) and the SB-2000's do a fantastic job of filling out the soundstage down to 24Hz, which is more than adequate for music, even for organs or the rare occasions I listen to rap.

I've got pair of SVS SB-3000 in my small living room that looks great in piano black and are not too physically dominant. Presently I'm treating my room with great looking acoustic panels/base traps from GIK Acoustics, and with the panels installed there is nice improvement. More panels on the way, though.

 

[highfigh]

I've got pair of SVS SB-3000 in my small living room that looks great in piano black and are not too physically dominant. Presently I'm treating my room with great looking acoustic panels/base traps from GIK Acoustics, and with the panels installed there is nice improvement. More panels on the way, though.

I think more people would use them if they could hear the difference with vs without in a quick demo. Well, the WAF and interior detonator objections are a huge part of it, though.

Which panels did you buy?

 

[killdozzer]

But it's not all negative

Far from it!! Until now the performance from sucha small box is simply unmatched even if it's 20Hz at 80dB. So why not just say that? As I said it would still get the gold medal.