Best bang for Buck, 11 Channel AVR

[DJ7675]

Here's a review on the Crown 2502. While SINAD only 71 it has tons of power.

Crown XLS2502 Stereo Amplifier Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the Crown XLS2502 DriveCore (switching) 2-channel amplifier. It is on kind loan from a member. The XLS 2502 cost US $645 including free shipping from Amazon. It has DSP functionality which I did not test. And is specified to drive 2 ohm load...

www.audiosciencereview.com

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I used the XLS1502 on a subwoofer. Noise was an issue for me. In regards to the above SINAD chart for amps.. check out the Denon Amps. Better noise/distortion than many separate amps. SINAD of 85+ is pretty darn good...

 

[lovinthehd]

I used the XLS1502 on a subwoofer. Noise was an issue for me. In regards to the above SINAD chart for amps.. check out the Denon Amps. Better noise/distortion than many separate amps. SINAD of 85+ is pretty darn good...

Still isn't audible. How the heck did you experience noise with a sub? I power several different subs with these amps....no extraneous noise.

 

[Trebdp83]

Still isn't audible. How the heck did you experience noise with a sub? I power several different subs with these amps....no extraneous noise.

Yeah, but you don't even hear yourself fart as you cross a room anymore.

 

[lovinthehd]

Yeah, but you don't even hear yourself fart as you cross a room anymore.

Oh it still scares me. Wakes me up in the middle of the night sometimes. I try and blame the spiders but....

 

[DJ7675]

Yeah, but you don't even hear yourself fart as you cross a room anymore.

I have a JBL B460 in my 2.1 channel music room. The driver in that sub is a JBL 2245's Sensitivity is 95dB. I sit about 3 feet from it. When music was silent or not playing I could hear hiss. This wouldn't be an issue with most other subs, but it was for me. Most of the time it didn't bother me, but eventually went to something else. YMMV

 

[lovinthehd]

I have a JBL B460 in my 2.1 channel music room. The driver in that sub is a JBL 2245's Sensitivity is 95dB. I sit about 3 feet from it. When music was silent or not playing I could hear hiss. This wouldn't be an issue with most other subs, but it was for me. Most of the time it didn't bother me, but eventually went to something else. YMMV

I use it with 93dB sensitivity drivers no issue. Not even with my ear tucked next to it.

What sensitivity setting were you using in the amp (assuming gen 2)

 

[Trebdp83]

Oh it still scares me. Wakes me up in the middle of the night sometimes. I try and blame the spiders but....

LOL!!!

 

[lovinthehd]

LOL!!!

Then when we're out on the water it's of course the barking spiderfish.

 

[Trebdp83]

I usually tell people I just stepped on a duck.

 

[lovinthehd]

I usually tell people I just stepped on a duck.

You seem more like a blame the baby or dog kinda guy.....

 

[lovinthehd]

....but am familiar with those damn ducks as well.

 

[Trebdp83]

Nah, love babies and dogs, f#%k those ducks though.

 

[lovinthehd]

Nah, love babies and dogs, f#%k those ducks though.

That's our local college team mostly.

 

[DJ7675]

I use it with 93dB sensitivity drivers no issue. Not even with my ear tucked next to it.

What sensitivity setting were you using in the amp (assuming gen 2)

I forget the 2 settings, but I tried both. I had it in bridge mode, using balanced out on a Minidsp SHD. Tried a couple of different amps since then and they have been silent. Hard to say what it was.

 

[lovinthehd]

I forget the 2 settings, but I tried both. I had it in bridge mode, using balanced out on a Minidsp SHD. Tried a couple of different amps since then and they have been silent. Hard to say what it was.

Maybe the bridging? While I have done so and don't remember any hissing, I generally don't. I think I've read something about that minidsp and noise, tho....curious the filter would still let something of that frequency thru to the sub?

Curious. I've got the 2502 temporarily running my 92dB speakers.....with those I just muted my program, turned volume up to reference and putting my ear in the horn I can barely hear some hiss....more like the seashell effect.

 

[fast fred]

Should I trust this>

DENON AVR-X6700H 11.2-Ch x 140 Watts 8K A/V Receiver w/HEOS

Denon Factory Refurbished

www.accessories4less.com

 

[VMPS-TIII]

I would never buy a Denon refurb again. It's too much risk. You don't want to hear about my 3 month wait to get my Denon refurb from A4L repaired. It was a nightmare.

Contact these guys and see if they will honor the 15% that was available on Black Friday for a new Denon 6700?

Denon AVR-X6700H - 11.2 Channel 8K AV Receiver

3D Ready · Upscaling · HDMI · 11.2 Channel · Dolby TrueHD · DTS-HD Master Audio · DTS-HD High Resolution · Dolby Digital Plus · Ethernet · Wi-Fi

listenup.com

 

[fast fred]

I would never buy a Denon refurb again. It's too much risk. You don't want to hear about my 3 month wait to get my Denon refurb from A4L repaired. It was a nightmare.

Ok thought so!

 

[lovinthehd]

Ok thought so!

Many have had no issues, tho. I did have issues with refurb units (different in that both failed within the 30day return period) but I'd still give one a shot if the savings were significant, but of course it does have some inherent risk. If it isn't worth it to you, it isn't worth it to you. After your return period expires even with a new unit, you're still stuck with covid impaired services now should you need warranty service.....same place for both refurbs and regular warranty service....

 

[fast fred]

Sorry guys - what about this combo? (for 11 total channels)

Marantz SR7013
Monolith by Monoprice 2x200 Watts Per Channel