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[lovinthehd]

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Couple of question.

LFE and line unbalanced inputs. Do i plug my coaxial on the red or the white?

About the other setting on the first image above. I could use some advice. I think i got it correctly setup using the use guide, but i could use more advise, just to be sure

Without having to dig back thru the whole thread....what make/model sub are we looking at? If you're using the avr for bass management generally you want the LFE input (not clear to me but guessing it might be number 1),and I'd either turn the low pass filter to it's max setting and/or disable the low pass filter (marked crossover), if the LFE input doesn't automatically do that as it often does. Why did you use the extended mode vs THX?

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Without having to dig back thru the whole thread....what make/model sub are we looking at? If you're using the avr for bass management generally you want the LFE input (not clear to me but guessing it might be number 1),and I'd either turn the low pass filter to it's max setting and/or disable the low pass filter (marked crossover), if the LFE input doesn't automatically do that as it often does. Why did you use the extended mode vs THX?

For some reason I think monolith 12’s.

 

[Paul C]

Hey guys, new question...Sorry I don't know how to start a new thread?

Is it possible to use my old AV receiver Pioneer AV 84TXSi for my front SP amplification and my new AV receiver Pioneer SC-LX701 for remaining SP channel amplification using the pre outs on the new receiver? Is it wise to do so.

 

[lovinthehd]

Hey guys, new question...Sorry I don't know how to start a new thread?

Is it possible to use my old AV receiver Pioneer AV 84TXSi for my front SP amplification and my new AV receiver Pioneer SC-LX701 for remaining SP channel amplification using the pre outs on the new receiver? Is it wise to do so.

At the top of the forums page is a "post thread" button. Not sure if you need to post a few times before starting a thread, tho. Yes you can have one avr act as an amp, probably little benefit in doing so, tho. What is the goal here, just to put gear to use? Are you having issues using just one unit?

 

[Paul C]

Thank you for your reply lovinthehd,

I just thought it would be neat to experiment a little. IF I can use both AVR's at the same time for two channel stereo listening , don't want to put old system in storage, since I can still use the front SP channel for secondary two channel stereo it would be a great benefit to me.
Yes the rear right surround channel has failed on the older receiver therefore I had decided to invest in a new receiver.
Thank you for your input lovinthehd, very much appreciated.

 

[ryanosaur]

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Couple of question.

LFE and line unbalanced inputs. Do i plug my coaxial on the red or the white?

About the other setting on the first image above. I could use some advice. I think i got it correctly setup using the use guide, but i could use more advise, just to be sure

If you didn't, check out the article that Lovin' linked to in post #213.
Generally, turn the sub XO off, Phase to 0, Gain level to around 50%, you should be able to plug into either RCS with a single cable, but I would choose #1 if for no other reason than its labeled #1.

Run your room correction... this will do two very important things for you: set the Levels and Distances. Even if you choose to turn off the room correction, keep those settings. Especially the distance. (Sub DSP will often create a change due to the processing, the room correction will often set the sub distance further away than it actually is, but this is to compensate for delay. )

Did you get your stuff working?!

 

[lovinthehd]

Thank you for your reply lovinthehd,

I just thought it would be neat to experiment a little. IF I can use both AVR's at the same time for two channel stereo listening , don't want to put old system in storage, since I can still use the front SP channel for secondary two channel stereo it would be a great benefit to me.
Yes the rear right surround channel has failed on the older receiver therefore I had decided to invest in a new receiver.
Thank you for your input lovinthehd, very much appreciated.

What does secondary two channel stereo mean in this case? Just what is your speaker setup?

 

[Patrick Kennedy]

Oops

Without having to dig back thru the whole thread....what make/model sub are we looking at? If you're using the avr for bass management generally you want the LFE input (not clear to me but guessing it might be number 1),and I'd either turn the low pass filter to it's max setting and/or disable the low pass filter (marked crossover),if the LFE input doesn't automatically do that as it often does. Why did you use the extended mode vs THX?

monolith

Without having to dig back thru the whole thread....what make/model sub are we looking at? If you're using the avr for bass management generally you want the LFE input (not clear to me but guessing it might be number 1),and I'd either turn the low pass filter to it's max setting and/or disable the low pass filter (marked crossover), if the LFE input doesn't automatically do that as it often does. Why did you use the extended mode vs THX?

Monolith 12' Av has 2 independant subs connection. I have ordered 2 Y splitter female to male, should have them by thursday.

 

[Patrick Kennedy]

If you didn't, check out the article that Lovin' linked to in post #213.
Generally, turn the sub XO off, Phase to 0, Gain level to around 50%, you should be able to plug into either RCS with a single cable, but I would choose #1 if for no other reason than its labeled #1.

Run your room correction... this will do two very important things for you: set the Levels and Distances. Even if you choose to turn off the room correction, keep those settings. Especially the distance. (Sub DSP will often create a change due to the processing, the room correction will often set the sub distance further away than it actually is, but this is to compensate for delay. )

Did you get your stuff working?!

I did a manual setup of my room with a mesuring tape. Should i go with a auto room correction instead.

So far 5.0 is fantastic... but both subs are not outputing anything. I have ordered two Y splitter. Hopefully this will fix the problem. I should have them on thursday. I will keep you up to date. I might have overseen that post you talk about. I will check it out.

 

[lovinthehd]

Oops
monolith

Monolith 12' Av has 2 independant subs connection. I have ordered 2 Y splitter female to male, should have them by thursday.

The sub has independant sub connections? Don't understand, or are you referring to a ".2" avr? Which one? What are the splitters going to do?

 

[Patrick Kennedy]

Som

The sub has independant sub connections? Don't understand, or are you referring to a ".2" avr? Which one? What are the splitters going to do?

The sub has independant sub connections? Don't understand, or are you referring to a ".2" avr? Which one? What are the splitters going to do?

Ryanosaur posted that i could use a Y splitter on the back of my subs. He suggested that this might be the reason why my subs are not working.

My AV is a yamaha RX2060. There is 2 outpout for subs on the back. And i can ajust both subs independantly in my Av receveir.

I want to go .2 but somehow it isnt working. The AV detect both my subs, but nothing comes out of them.

 

[lovinthehd]

Som



Ryanosaur posted that i could use a Y splitter on the back of my subs. He suggested that this might be the reason why my subs are not working.

My AV is a yamaha RX2060. There is 2 outpout for subs on the back. And i can ajust both subs independantly in my Av receveir.

I want to go .2 but somehow it isnt working. The AV detect both my subs, but nothing comes out of them.

That is the case no matter the sound mode you're using? You're testing with material that needs to "create" content for the sub or are you using something with a ".1" channel in the soundtrack? If the avr tests them fine, it's not likely something the dual input thing is going to resolve, sounds more like a settings thing. Yamaha has weird terminology for sound modes, so can't help you much there, but post up specifics on the sound modes you're using and what content you're testing with....

 

[Patrick Kennedy]

I will co

That is the case no matter the sound mode you're using? You're testing with material that needs to "create" content for the sub or are you using something with a ".1" channel in the soundtrack? If the avr tests them fine, it's not likely something the dual input thing is going to resolve, sounds more like a settings thing. Yamaha has weird terminology for sound modes, so can't help you much there, but post up specifics on the sound modes you're using and what content you're testing with....

Not sure what you mean by .1 i am watching movies on netflix and my 4k player. Not sure about sound mode. But i use the surround decoder of my AV. I mostly listen to movies.
I will come back to you on this. Got to go to bed now.

 

[Paul C]

What does secondary two channel stereo mean in this case? Just what is your speaker setup?

Speaker set up is 5.2 on new system. I wish to use the old system's front (mains) channel for a second pair of front stereo speakers, running both amps simultaneously for quadraphonic stereo output, using source select through new amp.
I don't know if this is possible and that is why I'm asking for advice.

 

[ryanosaur]

#facepalm

@Patrick Kennedy ... ummm... I suggested the y splitter in response to a comment earlier... not a big deal... but it won’t solve some of the issues....

So if I understand correctly, YPAO tested the subs, and they worked. Correct?

Therefore something you are doing with your source material or AVR is overriding the sub output.

Iirc, you already set speakers to small.
Did you confirm that you have them turned on for LFE content?
Next, the sound modes that Lovin’ is talking about are things like Stereo, Dolby, Dts neural, direct... for music, just try stereo, for movies, just try Dolby.
You should avoid streaming from your tv for the moment in case that may be the culprit.
Your Sony Blu-ray will output 5.1... the .1 means it will output an LFE track for the subwoofer, discrete from your other speakers.
You may need to look at other settings in your Blu-ray player and AVR to make certain you have them set up properly. Online manuals for both will help you out.
Please be very specific with your questions and info so we can better help you!
Cheers

 

[snakeeyes]

You also want to be in “Straight” and never in “Pure Direct”.

 

[lovinthehd]

Speaker set up is 5.2 on new system. I wish to use the old system's front (mains) channel for a second pair of front stereo speakers, running both amps simultaneously for quadraphonic stereo output, using source select through new amp.
I don't know if this is possible and that is why I'm asking for advice.

That won't be quad. Just introducing more acoustical issues, might get louder.

 

[Paul C]

Okay, thank you lovinthehd,

I don't need to create acoustical issues that's for sure, probably a bad idea then.

 

[Patrick Kennedy]

You also want to be in “Straight” and never in “Pure Direct”.

Whays the difference between both straight and direct?

 

[Patrick Kennedy]

#facepalm

@Patrick Kennedy ... ummm... I suggested the y splitter in response to a comment earlier... not a big deal... but it won’t solve some of the issues....

So if I understand correctly, YPAO tested the subs, and they worked. Correct?

Therefore something you are doing with your source material or AVR is overriding the sub output.

Iirc, you already set speakers to small.
Did you confirm that you have them turned on for LFE content?
Next, the sound modes that Lovin’ is talking about are things like Stereo, Dolby, Dts neural, direct... for music, just try stereo, for movies, just try Dolby.
You should avoid streaming from your tv for the moment in case that may be the culprit.
Your Sony Blu-ray will output 5.1... the .1 means it will output an LFE track for the subwoofer, discrete from your other speakers.
You may need to look at other settings in your Blu-ray player and AVR to make certain you have them set up properly. Online manuals for both will help you out.
Please be very specific with your questions and info so we can better help you!
Cheers

I didnt tried YPAO, i did manual setup. Tonight i will try YPAO, mayne it will resolve the problem.

I will use a 4k disk to run more test.
ATM i am 5.0 and the sound is fantastic...


The sound mode is set to surround decoder. No idea if it is dts or dolby, it doesnt show on the screen.

All my speaker are at small and 80 hz.

I have no idea how to turn LFE on.