Denon/Marantz vs Yamaha vs Anthem Thread

[lovinthehd]

That's just pure evil then.

Just capitalism. You should be familiar with that in your industry, no?

 

[snakeeyes]

So eARC allows more than DD+ such as 7.1 Dolby TrueHD from the TV.

Not sure what TV has any App with Dolby TrueHD or DTSHD MA. Do you know any?

Does eARC have other advantages over regular ARC?

I think my RXA770 is getting eARC in an update this year, but not my RXA2060 or RXV681.

The update 2.70 did include eARC for RXA770 but I won’t need that feature at this point. The others I have just got bug fixes. The newer xx80 models will get Airplay2 I believe.

 

[Ken32]

Anyone have experience with Canare 4s11 speaker wire? I’m going to replace my current wires with a cleaner setup.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Anyone have experience with Canare 4s11 speaker wire? I’m going to replace my current wires with a cleaner setup.

As long as they don't cost too much money, they should be fine.

Most of us don't even bother talking about speaker wires since they are just wires.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Just capitalism. You should be familiar with that in your industry, no?

I haven't thought about it.

Do you have an example?

 

[Verdinut]

Anyone have experience with Canare 4s11 speaker wire? I’m going to replace my current wires with a cleaner setup.

No, I don't have experience with Canare speaker wire, but I know that they manufacture good quality products. Their cables are widely used in the pro audio industry.

However, for speaker cables, its the gauge that counts and the quality of the conducting metal used. Monoprice oxygen free copper speaker wire is cheaper and does the job as well. This is what I use and I wouldn't waste money on more expensive stuff simply because there is no audible difference for wires of identical conductor type, gauge size and length. It's impossible to have a difference in performance. The laws of physics control the whole aspects of audio reproduction.

For additional info on speaker cable, here is a good link:

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

 

[Ken32]

As long as they don't cost too much money, they should be fine.

Most of us don't even bother talking about speaker wires since they are just wires.

Well, for 16 feet it would be 26 bucks. Which is all i need. It’s. 4 conductor in a jacket for bi amping. 14awg. I’m just trying to tidy up and organize my wiring.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Well, for 16 feet it would be 26 bucks. Which is all i need. It’s. 4 conductor in a jacket for bi amping. 14awg. I’m just trying to tidy up and organize my wiring.

Oh I don't do any of that passive bi-amp.

 

[Ken32]

Oh I don't do any of that passive bi-amp.

I've got to 8 foot runs of 12awg install gear wire.
https://www.amazon.com/InstallGear-Gauge-Speaker-Wire-Oxygen-Free/dp/B079VJXN1Z/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=speaker+wire&qid=1562083239&s=electronics&sr=1-9

I thought about getting a couple 4 conductor wire pants and some techflex to put them together for each side.

However; I noticed that for the same price i can order 16 feet of canare 4 way already wrapped in a black jacket.
Granted, it's 14awg. So a little bit smaller than what I'm currently running. I'd just have to swap over my banana plugs and be done.

I don't think at such a short run it really matters unless i were pushing much more power and far less than 4-6 or 8 ohms. (1 or 2 ohm loads) which i think my towers at times dip to 3ohms. Still, at that point it still shouldn't matter.

 

[Ken32]

No, I don't have experience with Canare speaker wire, but I know that they manufacture good quality products. Their cables are widely used in the pro audio industry.

However, for speaker cables, its the gauge that counts and the quality of the conducting metal used. Monoprice oxygen free copper speaker wire is cheaper and does the job as well. This is what I use and I wouldn't waste money on more expensive stuff simply because there is no audible difference for wires of identical conductor type, gauge size and length. It's impossible to have a difference in performance. The laws of physics control the whole aspects of audio reproduction.

For additional info on speaker cable, here is a good link:

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

I've read that some time ago, very good read!

However; the problem with monoprice is that the gauge I'm currently running is 12AWG. That forces me to buy 100 foot spool. which is overkill for my needs. The 4 conductor wire of that wire would run me 118 dollars for only needing 16 feet.

I could get 16 feet of the canare for 26 bucks and swap my banana plugs over.

I'm mainly wanting to do this to tidy up my wiring.

 

[Verdinut]

I've read that some time ago, very good read!

However; the problem with monoprice is that the gauge I'm currently running is 12AWG. That forces me to buy 100 foot spool. which is overkill for my needs. The 4 conductor wire of that wire would run me 118 dollars for only needing 16 feet.

I could get 16 feet of the canare for 26 bucks and swap my banana plugs over.

I'm mainly wanting to do this to tidy up my wiring.

If it's cheaper in your situation, then go for the Canare brand.

 

[lovinthehd]

I haven't thought about it.

Do you have an example?

Aren't you connected with our lovely pharmaceutical industry and are familiar with their friendly pricing?

 

[Ken32]

I went to Lowe’s and purchased southwire royal 12/4 stranded wire. Should work as good as canare shouldn’t it?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Aren't you connected with our lovely pharmaceutical industry and are familiar with their friendly pricing?

I've seen drugs that cost $100,000 per dose. But I don't ever think about capitalism.

Actually there are gene therapies that cost over a million dollars for a single-dose cure. But they are worth every penny since they cure some fatal genetic defects.

 

[Good4it]

I've seen drugs that cost $100,000 per dose. But I don't ever think about capitalism.

Actually there are gene therapies that cost over a million dollars for a single-dose cure. But they are worth every penny since they cure some fatal genetic defects.

IF it works, but if it doesn’t YOU ARE DEAD. No guarantee!

 

[Verdinut]

I went to Lowe’s and purchased southwire royal 12/4 stranded wire. Should work as good as canare shouldn’t it?

If it is rated as an OFC wire, it should perform as well. If not, it will oxidize faster and some of those non-OFC wires turn green after only several years. That happened to one of my friends, not him but the wire.

 

[lovinthehd]

So it is a huge difference OFC to ETP ?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

IF it works, but if it doesn’t YOU ARE DEAD. No guarantee!

Yeah for parents with infants who aren't expected to live past 2 or 3 years old, it's a chance they are probably willing to take.

I was told some drug companies even offer a money-back guarantee for the parents.

 

[Ken32]

If it is rated as an OFC wire, it should perform as well. If not, it will oxidize faster and some of those non-OFC wires turn green after only several years. That happened to one of my friends, not him but the wire.

It doesn’t say on the cable itself.

When cut it looks like solid strands of copper. Same as the speaker wire i have now.
How could i really tell?

 

[lovinthehd]

It doesn’t say on the cable itself.

When cut it looks like solid strands of copper. Same as the speaker wire i have now.
How could i really tell?

They are likely ETP (99.9% copper, .04% oxygen min spec) vs OFC (99.99% copper, .0005 % oxygen min spec). Don't worry about it.