Disney+ Gearing Up to Take on Netflix

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gene

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Disney isn’t completely new to streaming media; within five months of launching the ESPN+ streaming service, the company had amassed a million-strong following of sports fans willing to pay the monthly subscription fee. The new service will reportedly focus quality over quantity, delivering new, exclusive TV shows and movies, as well as Disney’s blockbuster catalog, which includes the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the Star Wars franchise, and Pixar. Will the allure of these new shows convince fans to purchase yet another streaming service, or better yet dump Netlfix in favor of Disney+?

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Read: Disney+ Streaming Services Coming in Late 2019
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Well, I don't care for their ESPN and the Marvel and Star Wars I purchase on BD, so I guess I will not buy into it.
 
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shadyJ

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There are too many streaming services for most people to subscribe too. Between Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, HBO Now, CBS All Access, and now this Disney thing.. Most people are only going to subscribe to a couple of these. Personally I will stick with Netflix and Amazon. Together they have so much content that I can't really keep up with all these stuff I would like to see on them as it is. I can certainly skip Disney Plus since they aren't going to provide anything except for family-friendly flavorless mush. As for HBO Now, their best stuff is worth getting on blu ray anyway. I wouldn't want to watch their really good stuff in the inferior quality of streaming. Hulu, yawn. CBS All Access has the new Trek, and who knows what else. It would be better just to buy the new trek series on blu ray if it is worth watching at all.
 
WookieGR

WookieGR

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The irony in all these streaming services is people dumped cable due to the high costs. When you start adding up all the different streaming fees to access all the content you want it ends up being close to the cost of cable. You can't win is this digital streaming world. Either I get it on physical format or obtain the content through other more shady means because it's getting out of hand and is ridiculous already. One streaming service for low fee with all the content or bust I say.
 
Kvn_Walker

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The irony in all these streaming services is people dumped cable due to the high costs. When you start adding up all the different streaming fees to access all the content you want it ends up being close to the cost of cable. You can't win is this digital streaming world. Either I get it on physical format or obtain the content through other more shady means because it's getting out of hand and is ridiculous already. One streaming service for low fee with all the content or bust I say.
You beat me to it... the "cure for cable" is becoming more expensive than cable.

Amazon Prime video we will most likely keep indefinitely since we are Prime members for the shipping perks and the streaming happens to be included.

Hulu I canceled last year. I never watched it, and even though the girls claimed they used it, nobody noticed until 2 months after cancellation.

I would like to keep Netflix but they are becoming less relevant as they lose more 3rd party content. Most "Netflix Originals" are really bad. NF is great for European and foreign-language content though.

Like millions of other people, I will subscribe to HBO long enough to watch Game of Thrones, then cancel. Westworld season 2 let me down, so I probably won't re-up for that whenever S3 comes around.
 
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Danzilla31

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The real thing that pissed me off is some of my favorite Netflix shoes like The Punisher Daredevil etc etc are all getting aced due to this bull@$! Can't blame em for wanting to get in the game but DAMN Disney did you have to kill my favorite shows?

If there content isn't good and since I'm already butthurt over this I won't come over unless they really bring something to the table

And as some people stated I'm tired of all the streaming options to really get all you want you have to pay as much as cable TV.

Bought ready to say screw it all just keep cable for sports then hang onto Netflix for a bit until as some people said it starts to backslide. After that f@$! It who really knows?
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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Can't imagine using the Disney service from the limited offerings that appeal to me, no kids/grandkids to entertain. Might depend on price, maybe a $1 or 2 a month....
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

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Can't imagine using the Disney service from the limited offerings that appeal to me, no kids/grandkids to entertain. Might depend on price, maybe a $1 or 2 a month....
That's what I said before, their target audience is mainly kids and that's a modest but not earth conquering market all things considered. It makes sense now all the properties they bought up, basically with this service in mind. I think even with all those properties, it will be tough to get people to join though. People who want that content will sign up and then what? Where will the growth come from? How many superhero movies can you make, even if they're good, before people aren't interested? It happened with Star Wars.

Netflix doesn't care because they now generate / buy so much content (one reviewer said they're basically a studio now). Disney doesn't care because they think they're the top of the food chain and will "force" you to join based on the catalog. I don't envision myself signing up.

Oh yeah, just wait for that Netflix price increase coming soon too. New pricing is already raised for new subscribers, and will push to existing shortly.
 
gene

gene

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There are too many streaming services for most people to subscribe too. Between Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, HBO Now, CBS All Access, and now this Disney thing.. Most people are only going to subscribe to a couple of these. Personally I will stick with Netflix and Amazon. Together they have so much content that I can't really keep up with all these stuff I would like to see on them as it is. I can certainly skip Disney Plus since they aren't going to provide anything except for family-friendly flavorless mush. As for HBO Now, their best stuff is worth getting on blu ray anyway. I wouldn't want to watch their really good stuff in the inferior quality of streaming. Hulu, yawn. CBS All Access has the new Trek, and who knows what else. It would be better just to buy the new trek series on blu ray if it is worth watching at all.
I agree with you, especially since I still have Frontier FIOS and it has channels/programs currently not available on any streaming service. I'm bummed out that Daredevil was cancelled by Netflix because of Disney. Now even YouTube is offering pay streaming content. If cable companies want to survive, they have to find a way to offer a package deal on all of these streaming services. It's going to be interesting to see what happens in the next few years as streaming seems to be displacing everything else.
 
gene

gene

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The real thing that pissed me off is some of my favorite Netflix shoes like The Punisher Daredevil etc etc are all getting aced due to this bull@$! Can't blame em for wanting to get in the game but DAMN Disney did you have to kill my favorite shows?

If there content isn't good and since I'm already butthurt over this I won't come over unless they really bring something to the table

And as some people stated I'm tired of all the streaming options to really get all you want you have to pay as much as cable TV.

Bought ready to say screw it all just keep cable for sports then hang onto Netflix for a bit until as some people said it starts to backslide. After that f@$! It who really knows?
Daredevil season 3 was just amazing. I was crushed when I heard it was not going another season.
 
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Danzilla31

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Daredevil season 3 was just amazing. I was crushed when I heard it was not going another season.
I know and not just a regular crushed either like a price of my souls been kind off crushed man I really loved that show
 
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shadyJ

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Daredevil season 3 was just amazing. I was crushed when I heard it was not going another season.
What a lot of people are missing is that the cancellation of Marvel IPs from Netflix is that was not Disney's call, it was Netflix's decision. Netflix had the rights to those titles. Netflix decided to stop funding Marvel IPs because in a way, they are promoting Disney properties in doing so. And those seasons are not cheap to produce. I actually did like some of the Marvel stuff that Netflix produced, and I normally hate superhero stuff, but I will be just as happy if they can figure out to produce something else that has the same level of quality.
 
William Lemmerhirt

William Lemmerhirt

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Fukk Disney. They can’t can’t even get a soundtrack right anymore. Stupid flat lifeless junk. I think Mickey needs some viagra. And their atmos for many titles isn’t even object based. They’re 7.1.4 channel based prints.
 
ellisr63

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I also cut the cable 3 years ago, and now that I am in Mexico we have not went back to cable or Satellite. What I figured was going to happen is happening...the people are streaming more now than before, hence causing people to have to get faster internet packages with more data in their packages. It is a win win for the Movie, and TV industry. As they stop producing BRs, and CDs...everyone excepts the lower quality of internet streaming. I still want a hard copy! I will most likely add a few online services too for watching Network shows when we get our fiber installed.

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snakeeyes

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I’m good with Netflix. I barely watch AMZN because their menu is annoying to navigate. I did enjoy Jack Ryan though. :)
 
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Danzilla31

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Fukk Disney. They can’t can’t even get a soundtrack right anymore. Stupid flat lifeless junk. I think Mickey needs some viagra. And their atmos for many titles isn’t even object based. They’re 7.1.4 channel based prints.
Can I get an amen to there sh@$!try soundtrack mixes!!! Damn I thought I was the only one who noticed that!
 
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Danzilla31

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What a lot of people are missing is that the cancellation of Marvel IPs from Netflix is that was not Disney's call, it was Netflix's decision. Netflix had the rights to those titles. Netflix decided to stop funding Marvel IPs because in a way, they are promoting Disney properties in doing so. And those seasons are not cheap to produce. I actually did like some of the Marvel stuff that Netflix produced, and I normally hate superhero stuff, but I will be just as happy if they can figure out to produce something else that has the same level of quality.
Well then f@$!ck Netflix too! :p
 
Kvn_Walker

Kvn_Walker

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I’m good with Netflix. I barely watch AMZN because their menu is annoying to navigate. I did enjoy Jack Ryan though. :)
Netflix has the UI thing down pretty well. Amazon's is bad but HBO's is the absolute worst. I actually cancelled HBO Go and added the HBO channel to Prime Video just to use Amazon's interface!
 
Darenwh

Darenwh

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As I have said before, it will not be long before the cost of streaming exceeds the cost of cable. The worst thing about this though is that as more studios become streamers there will be far less incentive to distribute content on physical media. They may still do so via direct sales but then you will be looking at retail costs for any physical media content you wish to own. Discounts will be a thing of the past. For those who are not able to get broadband due to where they live this will kill their ability to see that content for anything less than full retail for the content.

For those who have a fast enough broadband connection they will be able to get the content, sometimes by purchasing or renting the content, and at other times via subscriptions, but the costs will be much more prohibitive than cable ever was. Imagine a single episode of a series you enjoy costing a 10% of the cost of your cable. Now look at wanting every episode and add on other content. It does not take long to see that the costs will exceed the cost of cable and that is not even considering the cost of your broadband service to view that content. Add to this the ability of streamers to force commercials on the stream and you have yet another issue as it is not as easy to bypass the commercial as it is with a DVR. The DVR will be going the way of the dodo bird. This may not be an issue for pay per view episodes (though it could) but for subscriptions it will be. Expect the streaming companies to say this is to reduce or eliminate the costs associated with the production but when it comes down to it this will be about profit also.

I suspect that many people will look back at cutting the cord as a mistake. Choose to pay for only the content you want and you may find the cost of each episode of the content you want is much more than the cost of the bundle you used to have. The public is in the process of removing one hand from taking money from our pockets and replacing it with many hands all grabbing for a larger share of the money in our pockets.

Happy Streaming...
Daren

I should add, as studios become streamers there is little incentive for them to offer their content on other streaming services. This will result in more subscriptions needed for the same content. That transition will not be immediate but it will occur slowly over the next ten years. Though Disney may continue to offer it's content for a cost to other streaming services right now, once their service reaches a certain tipping point in popularity they will start to remove their content from other streaming services forcing fans to their service at higher costs. Other studios will do the same in the future.

Imagine how much it would cost if each of the various series you currently watch charged $5 per episode and every movie you wish to watch cost $7 to watch it once or $25 to own it (virtually) or $35 for physical media. What would the cost of the content you currently normally enjoy be if those prices were to apply? I suspect in the future those prices will be common or may even be on the low side. And this does not even consider the quality of the movie you wish to watch. Do you want it in HD, UHD, HDR, with Dolby Atmos? Each of these could add a cost to the stream.

Without other locations to purchase the content you are at the mercy of the content creators. Their job is to make money for investors. They make money by charging as much as they can for the content. Exclusive rights will lead to higher prices.
 
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