Need some advice, thanks

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JCanada

Audioholic
Hey everyone, I need some advice. I would like to watch movies while listening to a multi channel AV receiver, but I wish to listen to music with a 2 channel integrated amplifier. I want to do this with the same set of tower speakers. Can I accomplish this without disconnecting wires? I understand that i would have to at least disconnect the 2 main speakers from the AV receiver, and connect them to the 2 channel integrated amp. I know the AV receiver offers 2 channel, but I do not like it. Awaiting anyones ideas as to what I can do.
 
NorseMythology

NorseMythology

Junior Audioholic
(Edit - My bad I thought it was OP who responded) I was asking which model receiver you have so others could help you.

I would think your receiver would need pre-outs then you plug those into your 2ch amp inputs, but wait for someone who knows more to reply, I am trying to learn myself...
 
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everettT

everettT

Audioholic Spartan
Ill add, is the comparison in the same room, with the same speakers?
 
J

JCanada

Audioholic
No, I heard it at the showroom. I also heard the ROTEL. Wanted to know if I keep my ROKU connected to the AV receiver, andlisten to 2 channel from the ROTEL, without disconnecting the ROKU, or running an optical cable from the TV to the ROTEL. The main reason is I wish to keep the on screen interface when I stream DEEZER from ROKU. But I also wish to keep the 2 channel quality of an integrated.
 
J

JCanada

Audioholic
My current setup is a ROKU to the TV by HDMI, and optical out to my 2 channel receiver. (to stream DEEZER with an on screen interface). I want to add a multi channel AV receiver to watch movies, and listen to DEEZER from a 2 channel receiver, while maintaining the on screen interface DEEZER offers through the ROKU device. Hoping someone with more knowledge than me can help.
 
everettT

everettT

Audioholic Spartan
No, I heard it at the showroom. I also heard the ROTEL. Wanted to know if I keep my ROKU connected to the AV receiver, andlisten to 2 channel from the ROTEL, without disconnecting the ROKU, or running an optical cable from the TV to the ROTEL. The main reason is I wish to keep the on screen interface when I stream DEEZER from ROKU. But I also wish to keep the 2 channel quality of an integrated.
You would be better served to start with the avr first. Your likely to not gain any audible benefits using an integrated for the 2ch. What speakers are your mains and do you use a sub with 2 channel?
 
J

JCanada

Audioholic
You would be better served to start with the avr first. Your likely to not gain any audible benefits using an integrated for the 2ch. What speakers are your mains and do you use a sub with 2 channel?
I have "value" mains presently, but will upgrade. No sub yet, but will add once I upgrade. My main concern is if I can keep the on screen DEEZER interface that ROKU offers. I can't listen to DEEZER without it.
 
J

JCanada

Audioholic
I am concerned that an AV receiver can't deliver enough juice to drive 2 large towers for music listening in 2 channel.
 
everettT

everettT

Audioholic Spartan
Thank you. If power is not improved with the ROTEL, will it not at least improve sound quality? Since it is a dedicated 2 channel amp?
IMO, no. The yamaha has a good dac and ample power with low distortion, if you step up in avrs, it will become incremental. @PENG has driven his KEF R900s with a denon x3300 and 4400 and has a thread detailing such.
 
everettT

everettT

Audioholic Spartan
The focals do dip down to 3.6 ohms in the critical range, so I'd recommend the avr with an external amp.
 
P

PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
IMO, no. The yamaha has a good dac and ample power with low distortion, if you step up in avrs, it will become incremental. @PENG has driven his KEF R900s with a denon x3300 and 4400 and has a thread detailing such.
As I mentioned in my AVR-X3400H and X4400H thread, I have compared them with my separate systems that I doubt any Rotel integrated can compare in terms of specs and build quality. To me there was no difference in sound quality, and I plotted some FR graphs simply using REW and found practically no difference in FR, impulse response, distortions etc.

You and I , and I guess @ADTG, @HD, @Verdinut etc., have all been there, done that and then found out after spending tons of money, separates in many cases don't really improve sound quality over mid to mid high end receivers, though they do usually offer better build quality, simplicity and Placebo induced audio benefits for two channel music listening. To be fair, there are also very credible members such as @RichB, @Irvrobinson who will tell you different stories, they likely do have more discerning hearing ability.:) I have to admit also, while I enjoy my cheap AVRs for music listening, I don't have regrets on having purchased my separate components either, and I am keeping my integrated AVP, premaps and amps,though they do just sit idling most of the time....:D
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
Thinking of upgrading to FOCAL Aria 948's
If that linked calculator shows you need more than say 50 WPC for your listening habit and sitting distance, then you should get an external power amp and forget about any 100-120 W integrated amp. I have driven my Focal 1028 Be with my DIY 5 WPC amp, and it sounded just as good as my 300/500 WPC Bryston amp. It really depends on your room, sitting distance and the spl you need, so it is entirely possible the RX-A1070, or AVR-X3400H can do a good job with the 948, that could dip down to 2.5 ohm. So, do yourself a favor, take the important first step, find out what your power requirement is.

Some integrated amps such as Rotel and Parasound's, do have the home theater bypass inputs for you to do what you seem to be wanting to do, for stereo music listening.
 
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