ISO Acoustics gaia III Is it woo?

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Muzique Junkie

Junior Audioholic
I have an H360 feeding Dynaudio Focus 340s

I ve already upgraded my cables as far as I can afford , gutwire congruence

Im wondering if it be worth my while to invest in the iso acoustics gaia III

I originally chose the cable route over the iso acoustics , and love these cables

The very immediate thought i have is woo , as im a life long skeptic

The part where it says you need the iso acoustics name/label facing the front of speakers really struck me as odd and maybe woo

But i ve read some surprising reviews , and the physics makes sense

But do the ears really notice

I know someone who had them on his Dynaudio C2 and he swore before he had the isos that they did nt sound like 20k speakers , and now they may sound better than that even

I ve heard they come with a no questions asked money back satisfaction guaranteed within 90 days i think . Is that true?

Thanks
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Sorry to burst the cable bubble, but the only thing that really matters with speaker cables is wire ga. I guess you were not really a skeptic if you fell for that gutwire. I hope it wasn't over $1 a foot as even that is too expensive.

Initially I misread what those ISO things are. Isolation pads. $50 each and $200 a speaker. Why do you think you need those? How will you measure its effect on the sound? How will you compare them to much less isolators? You just cannot compare them to nothing or your speakers with nothing and then those. Is just a sighted listening as I suspect, it if a folly to think it will be a meaningful evaluation of a sonic benefit. Bias is present. I imagine all the reviews were sighted. Not worth a penny.

You need to read the technical papers on this site's home page.
 
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Muzique Junkie

Junior Audioholic
Sorry to burst the cable bubble, but the only thing that really matters with speaker cables is wire ga. I guess you were not really a skeptic if you fell for that gutwire. I hope it wasn't over $1 a foot as even that is too expensive.

Initially I misread what those ISO things are. Isolation pads. $50 each and $200 a speaker. Why do you think you need those? How will you measure its effect on the sound? How will you compare them to much less isolators? You just cannot compare them to nothing or your speakers with nothing and then those. Is just a sighted listening as I suspect, it if a folly to think it will be a meaningful evaluation of a sonic benefit. Bias is present. I imagine all the reviews were sighted. Not worth a penny.

You need to read the technical papers on this site's home page.
Thank you
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Yep, like your uber expensive dac, and your amps to an extent, and cables are even more nonsensical, let alone silly stand things, think you've been suckered into the audiophool nonsense. Now that you've experienced the phool side with such sellers, maybe time to think about gear a bit more objectively.
 
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Muzique Junkie

Junior Audioholic
LOL

Thanks

Has anyone heard of these wee (aluminum?) tabs you can buy , put them inside your gear ,on your gear , even on strategic spots on your wall to improve sound ?

I forgot name of those things

Audiophoolery indeed
 
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MrBoat

Audioholic Ninja
I was in electronics school for longer than it takes to understand how electricity works. I've also worked with some rather expensive wire. Not for the way it processes electrical currents in a superior fashion, but for redundancy under some rather extreme environmental conditions, whether it be for a marine environment, or out of our Earth's atmosphere, perhaps. The alloy might be superior with regard to corrosive resistance, extreme cold or heat, or fatigue resistance with regard to severe vibration where hands will never be able to get to it in which to repair it ever while in use, but outside of that, it exceeded by a degree of thousands of times of what the actual signal that was to go thru it would ever need. In more cases than not, it was instead about the insulation jacket that was around it with materials such as Teflon, that rendered the cable essentially fireproof well over 1000 F, or direct flame, for that matter.

Furthermore, the engineers that design these cabling protocols for such systems scoff at the idea of a superior cable for something as benign comparatively as an audio signal. If I were to mention it to them, I would have to make the sarcasm very apparent with perhaps, handicap speak, and with rolling eyes so as not to get abused with ridicule from there on out for what could amount to the remainder of my working life.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
LOL

Thanks

Has anyone heard of these wee (aluminum?) tabs you can buy , put them inside your grar . on your gear , even on strategic spots on your wall to improve sound ?

I forgot name of those things

Audiophoolery indeed
Are you talking about that aluminum foil strips or dots or other shapes on a peel off paper?
Selling from England by a family?
Beck or something?

Yes, it has been around for a long time. They deserve to be rich from the fools who but them.
 
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Muzique Junkie

Junior Audioholic
Are you talking about that aluminum foil strips or dots or other shapes on a peel off paper?
Selling from England by a family?
Beck or something?

Yes, it has been around for a long time. They deserve to be rich from the fools who but them.
Damn i wish i could remember

I assume its aluminum , tubular in shape , about the size od a chiclet or 2

One dude has a youtube channel for gear , i cant find it now

He did a review from his basement system , then his upstairs system , which he said was a 1.5 million dollaer setup

Even a beauty clear audio turntable

These wee tab like things you place strategically inside your gear and outside

He even had them on walls

Its reported to reduce interference ?

Im no Einstein , but i remember thinking im not so fukked in the head after all when i realized folks went for this

Maybe i m wrong
 
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Muzique Junkie

Junior Audioholic
i thought it was AVS showrooms but i cant find the vid
 
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Muzique Junkie

Junior Audioholic
There was a youtube video , and i think it was the avshowrooms guy raving about them

Here we go , it was killing me to not remember this

Seems like alota woo to me

 
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mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Someone posted that nonsense tubes just recently, maybe you?
What BS. Interference from what? With all those stuff he has in his room? Strategic locations based on whose science? I want to see credible data and experimentations and then a DBT listening test. But I will not hold my breath waiting. There is just no words to express the stupidity of that.
But then hard to fight the Barnum Effect.
 
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Muzique Junkie

Junior Audioholic
Someone posted that nonsense tubes just recently, maybe you?
What BS. Interference from what? With all those stuff he has in his room? Strategic locations based on whose science? I want to see credible data and experimentations and then a DBT listening test. But I will not hold my breath waiting. There is just no words to express the stupidity of that.
But then hard to fight the Barnum Effect.
Nope it wasnt me

I just did it for a larf now

Im not advocating
 
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Muzique Junkie

Junior Audioholic
There was a thread somewhere months ago i read . Someone else was also asking for scientific studies

I remember the defenders got rather annoyed , and said the likes of, science cant measure all we hear
 
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Muzique Junkie

Junior Audioholic
Yet you find no "woo" in your cables?
There is likely some woo indeed

I was almost given 1100.00 cables tho , well over 50% off

I think about 450.00 for showroom demos

For 2 8ft cables that wasnt the worst deal i ve ever made

I guess its when the level of woo become so obvious im alerted

I can be fooled sometimes tho

Thanks
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
There is likely some woo indeed

I was almost given 1100.00 cables tho , well over 50% off

I think about 450.00 for showroom demos

For 2 8ft cables that wasnt the worst deal i ve ever made

I guess its when the level of woo become so obvious im alerted

I can be fooled sometimes tho

Thanks
IMO they're worth about $1/ft, maybe more if they look really nice to you. I usually buy 12g speaker wire at around $.30/ft and about $1 ea for banana plugs. Most of the audio woo is probably in cables/interconnects....I'd much rather buy $400 worth of music instead of giving the money to cable charlatans (who say idiotic things like "We find copper is more natural and musical-sounding,” a statement attributed to Herbert wong, one of the owners of Gutwire).
 
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Muzique Junkie

Junior Audioholic
IMO they're worth about $1/ft, maybe more if they look really nice to you. I usually buy 12g speaker wire at around $.30/ft and about $1 ea for banana plugs. Most of the audio woo is probably in cables/interconnects....I'd much rather buy $400 worth of music instead of giving the money to cable charlatans (who say idiotic things like "We find copper is more natural and musical-sounding,” a statement attributed to Herbert wong, one of the owners of Gutwire).
That indeed was funny

Somethings Wong with that dude
 
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