Couple questions about Yamaha RX-A3060

[Hasan Alnajdi]

Yes, however there are some brands or companies that many agree upon as being good makers of speakers. While individual tastes vary, most can agree on a truly good sounding speaker. Where it gets more individualized is, do you want a sub for deep bass? How does it sound in your room? Do you like a bright sounding speaker or a warm sounding speaker?

What ways you may prefer to eq your system can change the sound significantly. Starting with a good speaker that has a flat (neutral) response is a great way to get closer to what you want as it will not color the sound or add much to the original source material. The goal is to get a speaker to sound as natural as possible, then make it work in your room with eq or my preference, room correction software (which many modern avr's have) . The room and they way you position your speakers is almost as important as your speaker selection

Ok, I haven't experienced loudspeakers at all for the ones I got are my very first.. from your experience (even guess) how good are they in delivering natural sound? Using yamaha ypao and the ideal layout in the manual (except for the center im still looking for a base for it)

 

[Pogre]

Ok, I haven't experienced loudspeakers at all for the ones I got are my very first.. from your experience (even guess) how good are they in delivering natural sound? Using yamaha ypao and the ideal layout in the manual (except for the center im still looking for a base for it)

You got me there. I don't have a lot of experience with Polk and I'm still looking for some 3rd party specs. Anything I would tell you now would be a guess at best. I'll keep digging around and see if I can find some more info.

 

[Hasan Alnajdi]

You got me there. I don't have a lot of experience with Polk and I'm still looking for some 3rd party specs. Anything I would tell you now would be a guess at best. I'll keep digging around and see if I can find some more info.

Appreciate it my friend.. you've been helpful enough
Thanks again

 

[Hasan Alnajdi]

I would like to apologize for my infinite questions guys.. but I gotta say couple of them won't do it for me no more so you expext a lot coming in the way

My approach may seem different and vague but at this stage I am trying to find the pros and cons of my current system and the way all parts work together.. to use it as a starting poing for my research and how to develop something with my own standards.. I could use all the information i can get and you've already shared alot and I thank you for that but I still gonna ask

Just saying

 

[Pogre]

We love it when someone comes here, takes advice, does their homework and is open to learning. No worries.

 

[Hasan Alnajdi]

Hey guys
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/1137156-anatomy-audio-video-receiver.html

How would rate this piece? Is it accurate enough?

 

[Hasan Alnajdi]

http://www.ranker.com/list/best-speaker-brands/ranker-shopping

How would you consider this as well?

 

[Pogre]

http://www.ranker.com/list/best-speaker-brands/ranker-shopping

How would you consider this as well?

As soon as I saw Bose in the number 4 spot... no. Just no.

The first link you posted looks like a pretty good read, but I'm not as technically educated as some others here to really comment.

 

[Hasan Alnajdi]

As soon as I saw Bose in the number 4 spot... no. Just no.

The first link you posted looks like a pretty good read, but I'm not as technically educated as some others here to really comment.

I'm really getting mixed feeds online about polk... some refer to them as garbage while some declare them pioneers.. when it comes to my speakers mostly i get 4.5 out of 5 rating (mostly amazon)... someone even praised the inferior seiers T and rated 9.5 out of 10.. on the other hand, B&W seems to be the best to me according to my search.. but again there is always somebody out who disagrees completely

 

[Hasan Alnajdi]

I mean the theory about impedance and sensitivity being most important clearly missing some factors when choosing a sloudspeaker..

 

[Pogre]

I'm really getting mixed feeds online about polk... some refer to them as garbage while some declare them pioneers.. when it comes to my speakers mostly i get 4.5 out of 5 rating (mostly amazon)... someone even praised the inferior seiers T and rated 9.5 out of 10.. on the other hand, B&W seems to be the best to me according to my search.. but again there is always somebody out who disagrees completely

You'll find a lot of mixed feelings about Polk here too, but in my limited experience I think you could have done worse.

As far as B&W, they make some very good speakers, but a lot of them have a signature "warm" sound due to the way the crossovers are designed to not give a flat or neutral response by creating a dip in the mid range to achieve that sound. Some folks like it, some don't. I personally am not a fan of their "sound". I had a pair of older B&Ws and never quite felt like I was truly happy with them.

Right now I have a pair of SVS Ultra Bookshelf Speakers and I'm very happy with them.

 

[Hasan Alnajdi]

You'll find a lot of mixed feelings about Polk here too, but in my limited experience I think you could have done worse.

As far as B&W, they make some very good speakers, but a lot of them have a signature "warm" sound due to the way the crossovers are designed to not give a flat or neutral response by creating a dip in the mid range to achieve that sound. Some folks like it, some don't. I personally am not a fan of their "sound". I had a pair of older B&Ws and never quite felt like I was truly happy with them.

Right now I have a pair of SVS Ultra Bookshelf Speakers and I'm very happy with them.

you know what.. I'm gonna go out there and listen my self to every brand hooked in any showroom.. there arent much but it would give something back at least

Many thanks

 

[Pogre]

you know what.. I'm gonna go out there and listen my self to every brand hooked in any showroom.. there arent much but it would give something back at least

Many thanks

That, my friend, is the best thing you can do. Get out and listen to as many as you can and determine for yourself what sounds good. Let us know what models you've listened to and your impressions when you get back.

 

[Hasan Alnajdi]

That, my friend, is the best thing you can do. Get out and listen to as many as you can and determine for yourself what sounds good. Let us know what models you've listened to and your impressions when you get back.

Will do

 

[Hasan Alnajdi]

hey guys ..

the attached image shows my current configuration for the subs.. can you explain what is mean by Low Pass and Phase.. I wonder even if I can hook two of my speakers there under?

 

[Pogre]

hey guys ..

the attached image shows my current configuration for the subs.. can you explain what is mean by Low Pass and Phase.. I wonder even if I can hook two of my speakers there under?

The phase setting has to do with timing, I believe? Most times zero is the preferred setting. Occasionally there might be a room or if you're using 2 subs setting the phase to 180 can help, but is not usually the case. I have the phase at 0 for both of mine.

The low pass filter prevents your sub from playing higher frequencies, which it wasn't designed to do. If you use the bass management in your avr (lfe out) you should turn the filter knob all the way to the right where it says "set here when using lfe out from receiver".

Using your receiver to do bass management is recommended. Turning the knob all the way to the right will bypass the sub's low pass filter and let your avr set a crossover (high pass and low pass filters) for a smoother transition from your main speakers to your subwoofer. If you do use the bass management (lfe out) on your receiver make sure your speakers are set to "small".

*Edit: It looks like you might want to plug the rca into the right (red) input for lfe on that particular sub if I'm reading it correctly.

 

[Hasan Alnajdi]

The phase setting has to do with timing, I believe? Most times zero is the preferred setting. Occasionally there might be a room or if you're using 2 subs setting the phase to 180 can help, but is not usually the case. I have the phase at 0 for both of mine.

The low pass filter prevents your sub from playing higher frequencies, which it wasn't designed to do. If you use the bass management in your avr (lfe out) you should turn the filter knob all the way to the right where it says "set here when using lfe out from receiver".

Using your receiver to do bass management is recommended. Turning the knob all the way to the right will bypass the sub's low pass filter and let your avr set a crossover (high pass and low pass filters) for a smoother transition from your main speakers to your subwoofer. If you do use the bass management (lfe out) on your receiver make sure your speakers are set to "small".

*Edit: It looks like you might want to plug the rca into the right (red) input for lfe on that particular sub if I'm reading it correctly.

Normal Use

Select this option when a subwoofer is connected to the SUBWOOFER 1 or SUBWOOFER 2 jack (phase not reversed). The subwoofer will produce LFE (low-frequency effect) channel audio and low-frequency components from other channels.


Reverse

Select this option when a subwoofer is connected to the SUBWOOFER 1 or SUBWOOFER 2 jack (phase reversed). The subwoofer will produce LFE (low-frequency effect) channel audio and low-frequency components from other channels.


This is from the avr manual.. I couldn't tell the difference

 

[Pogre]

Normal Use

Select this option when a subwoofer is connected to the SUBWOOFER 1 or SUBWOOFER 2 jack (phase not reversed). The subwoofer will produce LFE (low-frequency effect) channel audio and low-frequency components from other channels.


Reverse

Select this option when a subwoofer is connected to the SUBWOOFER 1 or SUBWOOFER 2 jack (phase reversed). The subwoofer will produce LFE (low-frequency effect) channel audio and low-frequency components from other channels.


This is from the avr manual.. I couldn't tell the difference

Yeah, I know. I'm still learning too. I'm pretty sure setting the phase to 180° just reverses the direction the speaker moves when reproducing sound. It's still the same sound. In some rooms, or with 2 or more subs, sometimes reversing the phase on one or all subs can produce better results. I personally have never found this to be the case.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

The phase setting has to do with timing, I believe? Most times zero is the preferred setting. Occasionally there might be a room or if you're using 2 subs setting the phase to 180 can help, but is not usually the case. I have the phase at 0 for both of mine.

The low pass filter prevents your sub from playing higher frequencies, which it wasn't designed to do. If you use the bass management in your avr (lfe out) you should turn the filter knob all the way to the right where it says "set here when using lfe out from receiver".

Using your receiver to do bass management is recommended. Turning the knob all the way to the right will bypass the sub's low pass filter and let your avr set a crossover (high pass and low pass filters) for a smoother transition from your main speakers to your subwoofer. If you do use the bass management (lfe out) on your receiver make sure your speakers are set to "small".

*Edit: It looks like you might want to plug the rca into the right (red) input for lfe on that particular sub if I'm reading it correctly.

Yep. This.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Yeah, I know. I'm still learning too. I'm pretty sure setting the phase to 180° just reverses the direction the speaker moves when reproducing sound. It's still the same sound. In some rooms, or with 2 or more subs, sometimes reversing the phase on one or all subs can produce better results. I personally have never found this to be the case.

Another way to think of phase is delay. It can be helpful if your mains are not close to the subs. For example if the subs are in the rear of the room. It's also useful for maintaining support in the XO region, but adding/subtracting distance in the avr can do the same thing basically. When I measure my subs, the two in front of the room(recently moved) work best at 0 and the one in the back is best at 180.(it only has 180/0). If I flip the switch on the one in the rear when running the test tone, I can lose around 10db. Phase is critical.