Not taking your meds recently, Killdozzer? ;-)
I'm just curious... have you ever worked for a manufacturing company, and actually seen how the decision-making processes work for where to do manufacturing and R&D? Even at just one company?
OK, I see it might escalate, so this will be my last post on this topic.
It wasn't emotion and rhetoric. It is something else. When it comes to politics I have this particular "wake up call" type of discourse. Same as with alarm clocks, I guess, no matter how much you may need one, you'll always hate it in the morning. This type of discourse often fails at conveying one aspect and that is the fact that I am not emotional at all, I'm entirely about content. I don't know why would anyone think that if your ways worked I wouldn't say so.
Look around you. Are they working? So, why would you defend them? As I said; I don't have a horse in your race, but having the comfort of looking at it from aside, it just appears silly.
Rather than preoccupying yourself with demarcating what 'rhetoric' is, try and remember who taught you the definition. When and if you do, try and ask yourself is it biased? Does this definition help you or the one who is explaining you why you can't have a better life? Is he still your friend? Are his explanations really yours?
And try not to hate me for these questions. Here I am trying to motivate you for something I believe will make YOUR world a better place... I'm not trying to trick you or fool you. That's why I asked: why correct me and have it as it is? If you think you have all the apologies for the way things are and all the apologies not to change, best of luck to you.
You all seem to think it's little tweaks, it's all fine tuning. It is not. It doesn't matter is it 20% or 15%, whether it'll hit the poor or the rich. There's something more fundamental at play. And it is ideology.
I'll try to explain if you have some time. I'll imagine a story...
I'm walking through the woods and I hear someone crying for help. I run to see what it is and I find irvrobinson being choked by a python. I jump at the snake and start trying to get it off him. Then he yells at me and say; what the f... are you off your medication?? I'm startled, but I ask him what does he mean, he was crying for help? He says leave the snake, the snake is good. He says: me being choked by this snake is the only possible way of today and yes I was crying for help, I wonder could you help me tie this polka-dot ribbon on the snake as this is suuuure to help. I tell him; no, the problem is that the snake is choking you and not that it's not pretty enough. He says; no, the fact that it is choking me is not to be discussed, you can only help me choose the ribbon. Finally I ask; well who told you that the fact it is choking you is NOT the problem? And much to my amazement, he says; the snake did.
I did work in all types of companies; small private business to state owned companies. I guess since this was your question (well, actually an effort at means of my exclusion from the debate) I take it now you'll believe me? (of course not, see - ideology)
have you ever seen those silly Star Trek episodes where some crew member gets a parasite attached to the back of his neck? Other members try to take it of, but the member with the parasite fights back. We the audience understand this clearly - it is the parasite controlling his host making the host protect the parasite. Imagine this same scene without the parasite. Imagine that the parasite is just a metaphor for a set of ideas. Someone comes and shakes them and you jump at him. This is how in real world people react to anyone going against their ideology. It is never as usually shown - people suffer under a burden until a liberator comes and can hardly wait until they're liberated and then they celebrate the liberator and build him a monument. No. They hate him, insult him, despise him, try to protect their 'parasite' on the back of their necks and if they actually build him a monument it is obvious he didn't do diddly squat.
